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River Carp & Flooding (34 posts / 6,508 views)
Zack
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Post #16 6 Jan 2024 14:10
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In reply to Post #11
>>>>"This is where Otter fencing is worth its weight in gold to the lakes that have it" <<<<

>>>>I used 6ft deer fencing to make a flood fence<<<

In theory, yes, but it may not be the case in some circumstances. The complex I used to fish had otter fencing around it and it got severley flooded a few years back when a river burst. All the flotsam, branches, grass, straw, anything that could be carried along with the floodwater etc just got stopped by the fencing, reduced the water flow, pressure built up and ripped all the fencing down breaking the posts and flattened the whole fence. The only thing that stopped losing the fish and stopped the flow of water was an earth bund. So about 6 lakes became 1 large one and after the water level dropped, it was found when people started fishing again, known fish had migrated from their usual pond to another pond.
popcorn
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Post #17 6 Jan 2024 14:36
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In reply to Post #14
The Trent has always had plenty of carp. We used to fish it for carp 30 years ago and never catch a barbel..... Bit different now!
The_Saint The_Saint
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Post #18 6 Jan 2024 17:19
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In reply to Post #17
Drove past Chertsey earlier on way back from London, the bourne had flooded into it and Thorpe pk via the ditches under the M3 & the river running alongside it. They'll be plenty of fish moving between the lakes including twynersh and the river. All the lakes were heavily coloured up with river water
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #19 6 Jan 2024 19:01
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In reply to Post #9
A1 pits does look like they might have to re-evaluate stocks when the flood eventually subsides - the river will be the only winner

Luckily my syndy (which has flooded twice this winter) has otter fencing around each lake as well as the entire complex (multiple jigsaw lakes) to stop fish movement during floods . . .
Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #20 7 Jan 2024 07:50
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In reply to Post #18
Can imagine the lakes will be different even if fenced. Influx of sediment, nutrients, etc. weed growth will probably explode in a year or so after the colour drops out.

We had similar levels of flooding Xmas 2020, that was a 1in200yr flood. Climate change in action. I make it 1 in 3yrs not 1 in 200!
scozza
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Post #21 7 Jan 2024 11:47
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In reply to Post #19
100% there will be lots of fish lost, last time they pulling them out of the fields the bailiff told me. Another lake I know is renowned for it, water up they are out and in the river, small plus point is there is a match lake that floods into that, all kinds of coloured things swimming about, some nice pike bait lol

When the water is up the fish are generally in it, washing food out of the ground too
SnapSh0ts SnapSh0ts
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Post #22 8 Jan 2024 10:24
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my club lake is a gravel pit and there is no way for the fish to escape since the path ways are kind of in the bowl as well so the water would need to rise about 15 ft before any fish could escape.

One place i would be interested to know how the recent flooding has impacted them is broadlands. Drove past it on the M27 yesterday and couldnt see the difference between the river which runs a long side it versus the 3 lakes they have.


With all this flooding, I guess i can forget the idea that the EA are just being hyperbolic about not wanting Catfish being kept in certain waters...
carpstar40 carpstar40
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Post #23 8 Jan 2024 11:59
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There is a chain of five lakes close to the river Wye in Hereford between Hampton Bishop & Mordiford it's practically the next field alongside the Wye on a flood plain stocked with carp in all of them, I used to lease these lakes 20+ odd years ago but even then there was no point in fencing it as the flood debris coming down the Wye in high water would of taken it out straight away it would only be a matter of time, I've seen some mega trees coming down the river over the years.
Some of the Wye carp that have flooded in over the years are from these lakes I know that for sure, the history of the fish years ago were from Homersfield, someone I know leased it 7 or 8 years ago and I fished it again a few years ago he stocked some VS fish around 2016/17 they were from high singles to low 20's.

Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #24 8 Jan 2024 13:17
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In reply to Post #22
Funnily enough you mention broadlands. I did a netting on their years ago whilst at Sparsholt, the reason was to remove the cats. EA were present to ensure if we caught one it wasnt returned. We only got one, around 35lb and it went back to college with us.

I'm pretty sure you wont get a permit to stock catfish within a floodplain, even if you're fenced off. Same with Grass Carp. which seems a bit overkill but hey ho
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #25 9 Jan 2024 10:44
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In reply to Post #21
plenty of Savay Lake fish ended up in the canal next to it known fish have been caught from the canal
kells kells
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Post #26 27 Apr 2024 12:34
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In reply to Post #25
And thrived. One known Savay fish going on to become the Grand union record at 40 plus..
midlandman midlandman
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Post #27 27 Apr 2024 19:27
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In reply to Post #26
I'm not sure that one was ever proved to be a Savay fish? Others were, for sure.
Teddybare
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Post #28 28 Apr 2024 00:24
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Have any UK rivers been stocked with carp?None of the ones i know of anyway.

Why would u ?
kells kells
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Post #29 28 Apr 2024 16:05
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In reply to Post #28
I remember Mark Bryant saying on there podcast. He approached the enviro agency I believe about donating some carp for local stretchs of river and canal. They replied saying the couldn't stock them as they were a non native species..
Teddybare
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Post #30 28 Apr 2024 18:03
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In reply to Post #29
Thats what i thought.👍
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