I never let anyone take pics for me,as I once trusted another chap to photo a lovely fish I had caught,remember handing him my Olympus OM40 program with esp...I asked do you know how to use this,he said yep..
He didn't know how to use it...
Lesson learnt,all my pics are self takes,right from 35mm era to using a smart phone..
Nothing worse than getting your pics back,after waiting 2 weeks for true print to arrive...and they dreadful...(back in the day)..
Taking selfies is a key skill,if you like a nice memory for years to come..
He didn't know how to use it...
Lesson learnt,all my pics are self takes,right from 35mm era to using a smart phone..
Nothing worse than getting your pics back,after waiting 2 weeks for true print to arrive...and they dreadful...(back in the day)..
Taking selfies is a key skill,if you like a nice memory for years to come..
In reply to Post #16
I'm pretty sure that's how everyone gets into self takes. Happened to me years ago with a proper special one. Tail cut off, top of my head cut off, the lot. By the next weekend I was expert in self takes lol.
I'm pretty sure that's how everyone gets into self takes. Happened to me years ago with a proper special one. Tail cut off, top of my head cut off, the lot. By the next weekend I was expert in self takes lol.
In reply to Post #17
Exactly, exactly..
I used to be real proud to be able to do 35mm blind self takes,I used to work on a ratio of three to one,I then got it down to 2 to 1,was a good skill to have,no flip round screens back then mind you,just a bamboo cane,and air release and a whole bag of filters ,lenses and a spare body..now I just use me phone...proper minimal..
Exactly, exactly..
I used to be real proud to be able to do 35mm blind self takes,I used to work on a ratio of three to one,I then got it down to 2 to 1,was a good skill to have,no flip round screens back then mind you,just a bamboo cane,and air release and a whole bag of filters ,lenses and a spare body..now I just use me phone...proper minimal..
In reply to Post #16
I've got a few select mates that I trust to do pics for me, and even then I tend to use them as a model to set everything up to exactly how I want it before getting the fish out.
It's also nice to have a bit of variety in composition which is where self takes fall a bit short imo. Anyone else is politely declined and I'll do them myself, though this can end up being a bit awkward.
On one of my old syndicates I had caught a nice common on the first morning of a weekend trip. A couple of the guys saw and came to help which was nice... I was fairly new to the water so welcomed the assistance and handed over my camera. The shots were terrible!!
The next morning I had the biggest mirror in the lake and the same guys had seen it unravel from across the lake and came over to help again. This fish had mugged me off good and proper earlier in the year and was one I really wanted good pics of, so I panicked and set up the tripod as quickly as possible to make my excuses. A minute later they appeared and we had an uncomfortable few minutes where they stood and watched me reel off 50 odd self takes.
I'd rushed so much the shots were still terrible and I looked a right pillock
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I love doing them for other people, provided I use my own camera as well as theirs. I've been amazed at the amount of people that hand me their camera in auto that have no idea how to change settings, let alone what they do. I tend to take a few tokens on theirs and concentrate on my gear that I know I can get the best out of
I've got a few select mates that I trust to do pics for me, and even then I tend to use them as a model to set everything up to exactly how I want it before getting the fish out.
It's also nice to have a bit of variety in composition which is where self takes fall a bit short imo. Anyone else is politely declined and I'll do them myself, though this can end up being a bit awkward.
On one of my old syndicates I had caught a nice common on the first morning of a weekend trip. A couple of the guys saw and came to help which was nice... I was fairly new to the water so welcomed the assistance and handed over my camera. The shots were terrible!!
The next morning I had the biggest mirror in the lake and the same guys had seen it unravel from across the lake and came over to help again. This fish had mugged me off good and proper earlier in the year and was one I really wanted good pics of, so I panicked and set up the tripod as quickly as possible to make my excuses. A minute later they appeared and we had an uncomfortable few minutes where they stood and watched me reel off 50 odd self takes.
I'd rushed so much the shots were still terrible and I looked a right pillock
.I love doing them for other people, provided I use my own camera as well as theirs. I've been amazed at the amount of people that hand me their camera in auto that have no idea how to change settings, let alone what they do. I tend to take a few tokens on theirs and concentrate on my gear that I know I can get the best out of
In reply to Post #19
Good post that,and very true.....
Good post that,and very true.....
In reply to Post #19
😅I am v familiar with that somewhat uncomfortable feeling of doing selfies in front of someone that offered to help
And I also agree that while selfies guarantee a good shot of the fish, they cannot compare to shots from someone with an eye for a shot!
😅I am v familiar with that somewhat uncomfortable feeling of doing selfies in front of someone that offered to help
And I also agree that while selfies guarantee a good shot of the fish, they cannot compare to shots from someone with an eye for a shot!
Im be still working on perfecting my self takes. Mistake i make most is the way i position the fish, normally having its bum lower so its at an angle, and/or holing the fish too low.
I have a decent sized fish pillow so should practice with that more to work
Out heights and distances.
Last issue i had was both my remote and intervalometer batteries were flat, And i didnt have spares (i now have loads) had the camera on the tripod but couldnt see the viewing screen. Ideally needed coaching through the picture, fish position etc, but they literally just pressed the button for me.
I have a decent sized fish pillow so should practice with that more to work
Out heights and distances.
Last issue i had was both my remote and intervalometer batteries were flat, And i didnt have spares (i now have loads) had the camera on the tripod but couldnt see the viewing screen. Ideally needed coaching through the picture, fish position etc, but they literally just pressed the button for me.
In reply to Post #21
I do enjoy doing shots for others generally, I much prefer using my own kit tho as I put a bit of effort into lighting angles etc and with my kit I have full control.
It's nice to do a couple of shots in addition to someone's selfies too as you have license to do something more creative, and it doesn't matter if it doesn't really work
I do enjoy doing shots for others generally, I much prefer using my own kit tho as I put a bit of effort into lighting angles etc and with my kit I have full control.
It's nice to do a couple of shots in addition to someone's selfies too as you have license to do something more creative, and it doesn't matter if it doesn't really work
In reply to Post #1
I think first of all you need to appreciate what the final photograph will look like !!!
I've got lots of poor self takes
I've got lots of poor photographs what other people have taken of me, think 35mm film!!!
Few tips from me
The digital era and cropping etc. is a brilliant step forward!
The angler needs to prepare the back drop, massive tip!!! Where will you place your mat, good shot, fish is safe
As a photographer you need to check!!! Not stalks or branches out of the head etc! Angler and fish!
When you ask somebody to take a picture, tell them how your camera works, hold it down until the green light is lit, it's in focus
Do not get too close. “Think about it as a picture frame mate, make sure you include everything” and you won't go far wrong for me. The digital era has taken it to a completely different level, you can crop them down. Ask them to take PLENTY of pictures and check them!
Few tips form me after a LOT of 35mm ****ters
I think first of all you need to appreciate what the final photograph will look like !!!
I've got lots of poor self takes
I've got lots of poor photographs what other people have taken of me, think 35mm film!!!
Few tips from me
The digital era and cropping etc. is a brilliant step forward!
The angler needs to prepare the back drop, massive tip!!! Where will you place your mat, good shot, fish is safe
As a photographer you need to check!!! Not stalks or branches out of the head etc! Angler and fish!
When you ask somebody to take a picture, tell them how your camera works, hold it down until the green light is lit, it's in focus
Do not get too close. “Think about it as a picture frame mate, make sure you include everything” and you won't go far wrong for me. The digital era has taken it to a completely different level, you can crop them down. Ask them to take PLENTY of pictures and check them!
Few tips form me after a LOT of 35mm ****ters
Self takes, always. I know what I want my pictures to look like and how to get them. Quite happy to let someone else use my phone or their own camera at the same time though, definitely get the occasional better photo like that.
And for the same reason I totally understand if I'm with someone and they want to do self takes while I take a few with my own camera.
And for the same reason I totally understand if I'm with someone and they want to do self takes while I take a few with my own camera.
In reply to Post #1
Years ago, in the pre- digital age I used to use an SLR, but learnt the hard way not to rely on my fellow anglers being able to take an even half decent photo. Imagine the deflation when I collected my pics from boots to find every photo of me holding my first double had me cropped off at the head! At least nowadays photos can be viewed on the spot and rather than being limited to a roll of either 24 or 36 shots with the mystery of wondering if they be any good.
Years ago, in the pre- digital age I used to use an SLR, but learnt the hard way not to rely on my fellow anglers being able to take an even half decent photo. Imagine the deflation when I collected my pics from boots to find every photo of me holding my first double had me cropped off at the head! At least nowadays photos can be viewed on the spot and rather than being limited to a roll of either 24 or 36 shots with the mystery of wondering if they be any good.
In reply to Post #24
35mm film, can you imagine the kids of nowadays having to wait......a week
to get them processed
Now imagine this kiddies, back in 2000 ish I had a 53lb Mirror iirc, good battle, pb by some way, grounded on bar on way in, had to wade out to net it. Took 35mm pics, came home, film sat at top of stairs for weeks waiting to go to the shops. I was refitting the bathroom and the film and car keys were at the top of the stairs, peed off no doubt they were constantly in the way I chucked them in the tile bucket thinking I'd take them the next day and they were safe....by the next day I'd forgot about it and threw lots of broken tiles in the bucket, unable to find my car keys got the spare set so I could go to the tip....yep, gone forever :-(
35mm film, can you imagine the kids of nowadays having to wait......a week
to get them processed Now imagine this kiddies, back in 2000 ish I had a 53lb Mirror iirc, good battle, pb by some way, grounded on bar on way in, had to wade out to net it. Took 35mm pics, came home, film sat at top of stairs for weeks waiting to go to the shops. I was refitting the bathroom and the film and car keys were at the top of the stairs, peed off no doubt they were constantly in the way I chucked them in the tile bucket thinking I'd take them the next day and they were safe....by the next day I'd forgot about it and threw lots of broken tiles in the bucket, unable to find my car keys got the spare set so I could go to the tip....yep, gone forever :-(
In reply to Post #27
Those were the days, disappointing at times. I think looking back there's quite a few fish I would have liked to have caught again to get a better picture
I once caught one fish I was after, nice common and it was blowing a proper gale, not much shelter around this water either, 35mm and timer nightmare, picked the fish up, mat blew away, got it back, fish just would not sit still, every time it fired off, kicking and jumping out of my arms, the best shot I got, i was knelt on one knee, legs, body and fish all over the place, rank amateur, just one of those bad days
Technology moves on
Those were the days, disappointing at times. I think looking back there's quite a few fish I would have liked to have caught again to get a better picture
I once caught one fish I was after, nice common and it was blowing a proper gale, not much shelter around this water either, 35mm and timer nightmare, picked the fish up, mat blew away, got it back, fish just would not sit still, every time it fired off, kicking and jumping out of my arms, the best shot I got, i was knelt on one knee, legs, body and fish all over the place, rank amateur, just one of those bad days
Technology moves on
In reply to Post #1
I always laugh at the photo of my first 20. It's basically a black silhouette against the bright reflection of the water, I was only a teenager with a very basic camera, no idea of photography and the chap who took the photo knew even less. Hence the result and after the anticipation of waiting for it to be developed too!
I'm quite happy to take photo's for others and now have quite a good eye for what makes a good picture. Modern digital cameras and even phones take great pics and you can review them immediately and take more if needed. Now the only problem is I don't catch any fish!
I always laugh at the photo of my first 20. It's basically a black silhouette against the bright reflection of the water, I was only a teenager with a very basic camera, no idea of photography and the chap who took the photo knew even less. Hence the result and after the anticipation of waiting for it to be developed too!
I'm quite happy to take photo's for others and now have quite a good eye for what makes a good picture. Modern digital cameras and even phones take great pics and you can review them immediately and take more if needed. Now the only problem is I don't catch any fish!
In reply to Post #27
that was proper oh **** moment
that was proper oh **** moment