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Hormone in Carp Baits (336 posts / 61,022 views)
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #137 24 Oct 2021 18:12
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I've watched the podcast a few times now and he actually categorically denies hormone use and seems honest about that. He also says that's its readily available just not used in fishing. so that would rule out any sort of prescription only hormone/pheromone. Now if he turns out to be lying then his career is over but if you watch it a few times and everyone is taking hormones etc and illegal stuff he denies it all. And if its not illegal or unethical or harmful etc why the hell should he disclose it? He gave away alot on that podcast and he wouldn't have even gone that deep if it's was what everyone was saying it is.
bluebeat13
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Post #138 24 Oct 2021 19:25
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I honestly hope that you are correct.
frothey frothey
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Post #139 24 Oct 2021 19:25
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“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.”
AideyKaye
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Post #140 24 Oct 2021 20:17
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He posted on facebook yesterday when someone asked him about the rumours.

Paraphrasing, it went along the lines of "the truth will come out in due course, be patient"

Seems confident.
Hadrian
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Post #141 24 Oct 2021 20:31
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CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #142 24 Oct 2021 20:56
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Bit of a lose lose for him now let's face it.
TheInsider TheInsider
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Post #143 25 Oct 2021 23:41
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There is no need to name the substance because you can't obtain it anyway. The long and short of it is you cannot order it online, and it isn't a product for fishing you can only get it from a Vet with a prescription so if your thinking of buying chemicals on amazon or over the counter your well off and all your doing is polluting the water ways for no reason what so ever. There is no way of a lake owner to test the bait without a lab so even if they knew the name so it wouldn't make an ounce of difference. For those referencing Australia you're also wrong.

Needs to be prescribed by a Vet as its a controlled substance. 100% illegal to obtain for fishing purposes or to sell on and has no place in a lake as it is extremely harmful to humans and basically anything that isn't a horse. Creates an environment that draws in males as they are expecting females to start to spawn, which is why certain anglers are getting massive hits of fish predominantly male fish that will be milking out of season so pritty easy to know whos using it if you know what to look for. Male carp can produce milk within 3 days, which then eventually will draw the females in. It is synthetic version of the Horses equivalent of the chemical found in a pregnant Womans urine that pregnancy test detect.
mark1009
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Post #144 26 Oct 2021 00:29
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So by implication you are saying that some people are using this substance, therefore it's not just gossip. I just hope it all comes out in the open and when the excrement gets in the ventilation system the right people get covered in it. When you start messing with animals reproductive systems it's time to call a halt.
bluebeat13
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Post #145 26 Oct 2021 01:02
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I assume you mean male carp milt, not milk?!
scozza
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Post #146 26 Oct 2021 06:07
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Surprise

Misunderstood2
Posts: 168
Post #147 26 Oct 2021 06:58
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Can imagine that the whoever's been supplying it to the anglers is bricking it too. Vets would lose their license. Wasn't part of the story that this substance was being used in Europe too? Probably could be easily imported from a country where they aren't as tightly controlled?
Just a thought there.
jhhilton1983 jhhilton1983
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Post #148 26 Oct 2021 07:23
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So I'm currently considering is it worth getting my Mrs pregnant and saving 9 months worth of her urine to spod out, for the chance to empty a lake
jhhilton1983 jhhilton1983
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Post #149 26 Oct 2021 07:23
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DP
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #150 26 Oct 2021 07:46
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What a first post from a new member
TheInsider TheInsider
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Post #151 26 Oct 2021 10:17
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The word in the upper circles is yes but not just Europe, have you ever wondered how countries competing against England that aren't prolific in carp fishing with anglers that no one has ever heard of absolute annihilate England which has some of the best anglers in the world up and the Anglers having there names brought up are all in association with the individuals in this group one way or another.
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