I was checking a website of a well known highly regarded (or at least used to be) bait brand who charge over £12 a kg for their bait. The nuturional analysis and ingredients is now listed on the site this is what I found...
Analytical Analysis Moisture 25.4% Protein 17.1% Fat 13.6% Ash 2.4% Crude Fibre 2.8% Composition Tigernut meal, maize flour, soya flour, red breadcrumb, semolina, calf milk, egg products, preservatives and carp attractants
No doubt it will catch but id expect a little more for £12 a kg. Thoughts?
Analytical Analysis Moisture 25.4% Protein 17.1% Fat 13.6% Ash 2.4% Crude Fibre 2.8% Composition Tigernut meal, maize flour, soya flour, red breadcrumb, semolina, calf milk, egg products, preservatives and carp attractants
No doubt it will catch but id expect a little more for £12 a kg. Thoughts?
In reply to Post #1
If it's a well known brand ( why not name ) then I would imagine most of the £12 kg is made.up of production, marketing and branding cost. Doesn't leave much of a margin for what goes into it.
If it's a well known brand ( why not name ) then I would imagine most of the £12 kg is made.up of production, marketing and branding cost. Doesn't leave much of a margin for what goes into it.
In reply to Post #2
I am sure that is the case with most large bait firms id still expect a bit more bait for my money.
I didn't mention the brand as wanted to hear some opinions without bias
I am sure that is the case with most large bait firms id still expect a bit more bait for my money.
I didn't mention the brand as wanted to hear some opinions without bias
In reply to Post #3
I have no ide why people think that big companies are putting something special in there bait?
I have no ide why people think that big companies are putting something special in there bait?
In reply to Post #3
Without sounding like a *osse* here, you have a choice mate either buy or don't. The only way you'll ever get the value you want is to roll your own baits. I don't have the time and the Mrs would kick my arse if I did my own so I've tried a few over the years and now have found said company to use.
Without sounding like a *osse* here, you have a choice mate either buy or don't. The only way you'll ever get the value you want is to roll your own baits. I don't have the time and the Mrs would kick my arse if I did my own so I've tried a few over the years and now have found said company to use.
In reply to Post #3
Is that the direct bulk price or per kilo from a shop?
Is that the direct bulk price or per kilo from a shop?
In reply to Post #1
I'm not surprised by that at all.
Probably high nutrition compared to others !
It's why I prefer to source my own ingredients, and roll my own bait.
Least I know what is in it.
I'm not surprised by that at all.
Probably high nutrition compared to others !
It's why I prefer to source my own ingredients, and roll my own bait.
Least I know what is in it.
Not a big fan of EU regulations (not at all!), but this one made me smile. When the law for fishing bait went into action, it was one big told you so reading the declarations. It is really bad with most brands. It surprised me to see that both mainline and sticky baits were sold in holland without declarations (apart from the mainline shelfies).
But it goes both ways, it proves most boilies are crap but it also proves that those can be very effective.
(you are talking about manilla, amirite? )
But it goes both ways, it proves most boilies are crap but it also proves that those can be very effective.
(you are talking about manilla, amirite?
)
In reply to Post #1
12kg from a shop so that includes their mark up (50%?). Add the magical advertising hype and this will sell the bait
As an angler, who for me bait is everything, I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's the results that count. There are a lot of good baits around nowadays and high quality ingredients are not the be and end all
Long time ago when a said nut bait came out somebody once told me the base mix cost around 70 odd pence a KG. End of the day it's a case of will the carp eat it but more importantly keep eating it. The oils in the nut / fats will be attractive and there will be a sprinkling of carp magic in the attractants
Bait has to do a couple of things for me, catch carp and make the fish want to eat it when they see it and the most important give the angler 100% confidence when using it. All you have to do then is concentrate on the fishing
12kg from a shop so that includes their mark up (50%?). Add the magical advertising hype and this will sell the bait
As an angler, who for me bait is everything, I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's the results that count. There are a lot of good baits around nowadays and high quality ingredients are not the be and end all
Long time ago when a said nut bait came out somebody once told me the base mix cost around 70 odd pence a KG. End of the day it's a case of will the carp eat it but more importantly keep eating it. The oils in the nut / fats will be attractive and there will be a sprinkling of carp magic in the attractants
Bait has to do a couple of things for me, catch carp and make the fish want to eat it when they see it and the most important give the angler 100% confidence when using it. All you have to do then is concentrate on the fishing
In reply to Post #9
It's been said, but 70p per kg for base mix. Then factor in overheads of rolling it, then factor in making a profit. The bait co doesn't sell for £12 per kilo, the shop does. But the shop buys at £6 or whatever per kilo, less overheads, VAT and making a profit.
Still got to sell a lot of bait to make a living.
Bought a sandwich from Sainsbury's today as it was out of date today. 29p. Normally sells for £2 or whatever. That's a rip off isn't it? That cup of coffee you buy, £3 or whatever. That's a rip off.
Everything's a rip off apart from whatever it is you're selling, which you couldn't possibly do any cheaper
It's been said, but 70p per kg for base mix. Then factor in overheads of rolling it, then factor in making a profit. The bait co doesn't sell for £12 per kilo, the shop does. But the shop buys at £6 or whatever per kilo, less overheads, VAT and making a profit.
Still got to sell a lot of bait to make a living.
Bought a sandwich from Sainsbury's today as it was out of date today. 29p. Normally sells for £2 or whatever. That's a rip off isn't it? That cup of coffee you buy, £3 or whatever. That's a rip off.
Everything's a rip off apart from whatever it is you're selling, which you couldn't possibly do any cheaper
Factor in to this they will be buying products by the tonne, see what difference this makes in any other type of bait making - buying per KG or 25kg of a product.
In reply to Post #1
How many “consultants” use said brand?
their bait needs to be paid for somewhere along the line
Wages warehousing transport etc all have to be paid for.
Soon mounts up
How many “consultants” use said brand?
their bait needs to be paid for somewhere along the line
Wages warehousing transport etc all have to be paid for.
Soon mounts up
In reply to Post #1
https://www.dtbaits.co.uk/boilies/n-blend-boilies/
...at least it's honest...
https://www.dtbaits.co.uk/boilies/n-blend-boilies/
...at least it's honest...
In reply to Post #10
Goes back to how much people want to pay for bait. Shop with mark up, £12, bait supplier direct £6 etc.
I would lay off the 29p sandwiches tight arse. The lettuce may be greener than you think
Goes back to how much people want to pay for bait. Shop with mark up, £12, bait supplier direct £6 etc.
I would lay off the 29p sandwiches tight arse. The lettuce may be greener than you think
In reply to Post #10
Bought a sandwich from Sainsbury's today as it was out of date today. 29p.
Been there, done that.
Saved £2 on the sandwich but had to throw away a £14.99 pair of boxer shorts and had an afternoon wasted looking at the toilet door.
Bought a sandwich from Sainsbury's today as it was out of date today. 29p.
Been there, done that.
Saved £2 on the sandwich but had to throw away a £14.99 pair of boxer shorts and had an afternoon wasted looking at the toilet door.