I was having a look at these does anyone use them I nearly fell over £30 each £60 the pair talk about a rip off some of these companies prices are absolutely ridiculous
In reply to Post #1
I use this one on my barbel set up, but maybe not tarty enough for carpers.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163944290815
I use this one on my barbel set up, but maybe not tarty enough for carpers.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163944290815
In reply to Post #1
I've never heard of a Jag High Tipper so had to google it.
I've no use for them so the price doesn't matter to me, but by looking at them and knowing how highly priced gear can be I'm not surprised.
Which in a way is exactly what they want, they want to inflate prices to such an extent that we come to accept them.
I say don't buy them and look for a cheaper alternative, if there isn't one go with out, they'll only end up with other over priced stuff and then you'll end having to buy a bigger barrow.
I've never heard of a Jag High Tipper so had to google it.
I've no use for them so the price doesn't matter to me, but by looking at them and knowing how highly priced gear can be I'm not surprised.
Which in a way is exactly what they want, they want to inflate prices to such an extent that we come to accept them.
I say don't buy them and look for a cheaper alternative, if there isn't one go with out, they'll only end up with other over priced stuff and then you'll end having to buy a bigger barrow.
In reply to Post #1
Nobody is forcing you to buy them, so they are not a "rip off" at all. Just because you can't justify spending that money on them, it doesn't mean others can't.
Nobody is forcing you to buy them, so they are not a "rip off" at all. Just because you can't justify spending that money on them, it doesn't mean others can't.
In reply to Post #1
Tackle Tavern have them for sale for £25 each. Considering the materials, cost of machinery, current cost of electricity, wages, after care sales etc for something that will make your life easier and outlast you is it really that expensive? A pizza from dominos costs £20 these days
Tackle Tavern have them for sale for £25 each. Considering the materials, cost of machinery, current cost of electricity, wages, after care sales etc for something that will make your life easier and outlast you is it really that expensive? A pizza from dominos costs £20 these days
In reply to Post #5
All good points but the cost of some items is getting well out of hand
All good points but the cost of some items is getting well out of hand
In reply to Post #3
It's to make a jag nano pod into a river pod so the pod has multi use for lake and river I've already ordered some cheaper ones
And the people that are paying these ridiculous prices are helping them to keep climbing now £550.00 and £600 for a bedchair so people on another thread are saying
It's to make a jag nano pod into a river pod so the pod has multi use for lake and river I've already ordered some cheaper ones
And the people that are paying these ridiculous prices are helping them to keep climbing now £550.00 and £600 for a bedchair so people on another thread are saying
In reply to Post #1
you obviously never needed them before and managed somehow for ever so don't buy them.
Then you can save 60£ and spend on something you do need and you are not being “ripped off..”
Win win
Edit
Jag nano pod >£250 lol how can you moan when you're invested anyway
you obviously never needed them before and managed somehow for ever so don't buy them.
Then you can save 60£ and spend on something you do need and you are not being “ripped off..”
Win win
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Jag nano pod >£250 lol how can you moan when you're invested anyway
In reply to Post #8
I didn't pay nowhere near £250 it's was free a present so I didn't invest and I've changed river where you can't get bank sticks in ground so use a pod I already have into multi use that's win win
I didn't pay nowhere near £250 it's was free a present so I didn't invest and I've changed river where you can't get bank sticks in ground so use a pod I already have into multi use that's win win
Like all things jag they a superbly engineered. I have three black ones and three 316 ones and love them, I personally dont think they are over priced. If you think there expensive then dont need to buy them, simple as that. Its nice to have the option though.
In reply to Post #5
£20 for a pizza in the middle of a cost of living crisis a lot of people will struggle to pay that a lot using food banks still until people have had the real thing at a good price there sell
£20 for a pizza in the middle of a cost of living crisis a lot of people will struggle to pay that a lot using food banks still until people have had the real thing at a good price there sell
It's called inflation mate everything costs more than it did 3 years ago.
You try running a business, energy costs, rents, staff costs, insurances, machinery, materials it's all gone up.
We have two choices either pay the price or not.
You try running a business, energy costs, rents, staff costs, insurances, machinery, materials it's all gone up.
We have two choices either pay the price or not.
In reply to Post #12
try running a business I ran a business for almost 50 years there's probably some companies taking advantage of this situation to
try running a business I ran a business for almost 50 years there's probably some companies taking advantage of this situation to
In reply to Post #13
Of course there are.
Costs have gone up but some companies (not just angling) are putting up prices way above the rise of their operating costs.
They may sell less items but the increased mark up more than makes up for this.
Of course there are.
Costs have gone up but some companies (not just angling) are putting up prices way above the rise of their operating costs.
They may sell less items but the increased mark up more than makes up for this.
In reply to Post #14
I dont think that's the case in Angling,the shop I use have seen a huge increase in terminal tackle but a huge decrease in big ticket items.Bivvies and bedchair sales are well down,maybe people are not changing to the latest bit of kit due to they can't afford them at the prices being charged.The Trakker rep had a bit of a shock when a couple of shops I know refused to stock the latest oval bed and said they would just order them in as and when needed.JAG is just a tiny part of what the engineering firm that own them do,maybe they could afford to make a little less out of the fishing side of things.They won't do that whilst it's still selling at the prices they're charging though and why would they
I dont think that's the case in Angling,the shop I use have seen a huge increase in terminal tackle but a huge decrease in big ticket items.Bivvies and bedchair sales are well down,maybe people are not changing to the latest bit of kit due to they can't afford them at the prices being charged.The Trakker rep had a bit of a shock when a couple of shops I know refused to stock the latest oval bed and said they would just order them in as and when needed.JAG is just a tiny part of what the engineering firm that own them do,maybe they could afford to make a little less out of the fishing side of things.They won't do that whilst it's still selling at the prices they're charging though and why would they
In reply to Post #15
Another way of looking at it is if people keep buying overpriced goods not just fishing they are telling the companies that's fine we are happy you are charging the right price when in fact they are not so I would rather go without
As I can't stand that feeling that I've been robbed
Another way of looking at it is if people keep buying overpriced goods not just fishing they are telling the companies that's fine we are happy you are charging the right price when in fact they are not so I would rather go without
As I can't stand that feeling that I've been robbed
In reply to Post #16
I totally agree,unfortunately some will still pay it.I was very tempted by the new Trakker bed and if it was around £400 I would of probably got one,£550 is taking the absolute piss
I totally agree,unfortunately some will still pay it.I was very tempted by the new Trakker bed and if it was around £400 I would of probably got one,£550 is taking the absolute piss
In reply to Post #16
If you buy something you think the price is too expensive,how on earth can you feel robbed? Nobody forced you to buy it, you made a choice. If you feel the price for something is too high, don't buy it. Simple
If you buy something you think the price is too expensive,how on earth can you feel robbed? Nobody forced you to buy it, you made a choice. If you feel the price for something is too high, don't buy it. Simple
In reply to Post #18
I said I don't buy I go without because I don't want the feeling I've been robbed so I am always satisfied what I pay
I said I don't buy I go without because I don't want the feeling I've been robbed so I am always satisfied what I pay
In reply to Post #19
Look if you've run a business for nearly 50 years I'd be spending less time getting wound up prices and more time just fishing 👍🏼
Look if you've run a business for nearly 50 years I'd be spending less time getting wound up prices and more time just fishing 👍🏼
In reply to Post #15
For shops, terminal tackle must make up a massive part of their revenue, surely? It always costs such a lot more than I expect it to - packet of hooks, shrink tube, rig sleeves, some soft braid, tub of hook baits - that's 35 quid + these days, and practically every time I go in I spend something like that (or rather I did, before making a concerted effort not to). It's probably the same kind of money as a top end bed chair or bivvy every year, but instead spent on tiny pieces of metal and rubber that I chuck in the bin eventually. Must be loads like me.
For shops, terminal tackle must make up a massive part of their revenue, surely? It always costs such a lot more than I expect it to - packet of hooks, shrink tube, rig sleeves, some soft braid, tub of hook baits - that's 35 quid + these days, and practically every time I go in I spend something like that (or rather I did, before making a concerted effort not to). It's probably the same kind of money as a top end bed chair or bivvy every year, but instead spent on tiny pieces of metal and rubber that I chuck in the bin eventually. Must be loads like me.
In reply to Post #1
I'm a Jag fanboy but haven't made the jump on my barbel set up . . .(yet!)
Best angle locks for river fishing are these -
https://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/preston-offbox-angle-lock?gclid=Cj0KCQjwwvilBhCFARIsADvYi7IpZedE_3dajqjY_bITlKtB17Scs1cMpQw2UQMIMLJv_INRb1nvWlIaAhteEALw_wcB
Absolutely rock solid
I'm a Jag fanboy but haven't made the jump on my barbel set up . . .(yet!)
Best angle locks for river fishing are these -
https://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/preston-offbox-angle-lock?gclid=Cj0KCQjwwvilBhCFARIsADvYi7IpZedE_3dajqjY_bITlKtB17Scs1cMpQw2UQMIMLJv_INRb1nvWlIaAhteEALw_wcB
Absolutely rock solid
In reply to Post #22
It's very similar to the one I posted in post 2
Lots of interlocking teeth to make a very secure, no slipping angle lock.
The locking knob is more flush so less likely to catch line on it.
It's very well made, and less expensive
It's very similar to the one I posted in post 2
Lots of interlocking teeth to make a very secure, no slipping angle lock.
The locking knob is more flush so less likely to catch line on it.
It's very well made, and less expensive
In reply to Post #23
Thanks I've ordered something very similar it's all you need there only an adapter
Thanks I've ordered something very similar it's all you need there only an adapter
The jag ones dont just lock with the lever they have lots of little holes machined into the face on one side and tiny little locating pin machined into the other face so when they locate into each other nothing moves at all. The lever just locks the two faces together. You cant see these bits from the photos which is another reason why they cost what they do.
In reply to Post #25
You can see them in the video from face book
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=504599520607628
You can see them in the video from face book
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=504599520607628
In reply to Post #26
👍🏻 i meant from the stock photos on websites
👍🏻 i meant from the stock photos on websites
In reply to Post #27
When the high tippers first came out they did show on photos the dimples and pins iirc
When the high tippers first came out they did show on photos the dimples and pins iirc
In reply to Post #25
Jag...
My ones...
Jag...
My ones...
Work of art the jag ones. I personally think £25 is cheap.
With all the new tarty things that have been invented over the last few years, I think it's time to resurrect the Tackle Tarts thread where people can drool over their set ups.
I'm getting old, humour me, but didn't gear cost a lot more in the 80s when compared to the average income?
I remember a decent rod costing an arm and a leg 40 years ago. I'm currently using Shimano TX2s, which cost no more than a few fingers and toes in similar terms.
Each to their own. Spend loads and spend hours admiring the quality of your gear, or spend less and spend hours content in the knowledge that you're not being conned ... as long as you're happy, all's good.
I remember a decent rod costing an arm and a leg 40 years ago. I'm currently using Shimano TX2s, which cost no more than a few fingers and toes in similar terms.
Each to their own. Spend loads and spend hours admiring the quality of your gear, or spend less and spend hours content in the knowledge that you're not being conned ... as long as you're happy, all's good.
In reply to Post #32
I'd like to see a timeline of tackle prices versus income.
From memory (which sometimes fails) there's been times where tackle prices from the original established companies being high. I remember my first Fox bedchair costing around £185, it was very basic, laughable nowadays and you were expected to thread your own mattress elastic through loops before it was useable. £185 in those days was a lot of money.
But then newer companies came along with good quality gear at cheaper prices which forced the already established companies to become more more competitive.
But nowadays although inflation and taxes are high, tackle prices don't seem to be reflecting that.
Perhaps it's because many anglers that have come into the sport get as much satisfaction aa owning high end tackle as they do wetting a line which in my opinion is keeping prices high
I'd like to see a timeline of tackle prices versus income.
From memory (which sometimes fails) there's been times where tackle prices from the original established companies being high. I remember my first Fox bedchair costing around £185, it was very basic, laughable nowadays and you were expected to thread your own mattress elastic through loops before it was useable. £185 in those days was a lot of money.
But then newer companies came along with good quality gear at cheaper prices which forced the already established companies to become more more competitive.
But nowadays although inflation and taxes are high, tackle prices don't seem to be reflecting that.
Perhaps it's because many anglers that have come into the sport get as much satisfaction aa owning high end tackle as they do wetting a line which in my opinion is keeping prices high
I've had the plastic ones many years ago for barbeling on the river which will do the job admirably and I've also got the Jag MK 1 high tippers which are a quality product and will last a lifetime, think I paid about 20 quid each some years ago now for the Jag's so gone up a bit since then guess it's the tart in me but they do look well on four storm sticks propped up on big French lakes, either or based on what you can afford or see a value too they both do the same job.
In reply to Post #33
I don't think all fishing tackle prices have gone up, if you look at delkims they are still selling at the same price they were when I bough my first set in 1999.
There are many more manufactures now
Think it would be worth breaking down in to categories reels, rods, etc.
No doubt the biggest increases I see are in shelters, chairs and bed chairs and those companies like trakker getting more into terminal tackle as they know those big ticket sales won't last
Though I think the aspirations of a lot of anglers over the last few years have gone up all to own the best gear and the manufacturers are simply selling to that market.
And every market has its day.
I don't think all fishing tackle prices have gone up, if you look at delkims they are still selling at the same price they were when I bough my first set in 1999.
There are many more manufactures now
Think it would be worth breaking down in to categories reels, rods, etc.
No doubt the biggest increases I see are in shelters, chairs and bed chairs and those companies like trakker getting more into terminal tackle as they know those big ticket sales won't last
Though I think the aspirations of a lot of anglers over the last few years have gone up all to own the best gear and the manufacturers are simply selling to that market.
And every market has its day.
In reply to Post #35
I guess for those who can't get out fishing much, buying stuff is as much of the hobby as the actual fishing. Bit like stamp collecting. If people get a buzz out of buying expensive gear and setting it up in their garden all power to them. It's weird, but aren't we all a bit odd.
I guess for those who can't get out fishing much, buying stuff is as much of the hobby as the actual fishing. Bit like stamp collecting. If people get a buzz out of buying expensive gear and setting it up in their garden all power to them. It's weird, but aren't we all a bit odd.
In reply to Post #36
Sad to admit it but im a bit like that. The thrill of buying outweighs the owning
I do however use whatever I buy lol
Sad to admit it but im a bit like that. The thrill of buying outweighs the owning
I do however use whatever I buy lol
In reply to Post #36
Im out all the time but rarely fishing and im always buying stuff. In fact im off to the pub shortly with the hound. I just put my new purchases in the wardrobe or the garage with the rest of the collection. The wife did have a bit of a moan when she found my new korda springbow net tucked away behind her dresses on her side of the wardrobe mind.
Buying gear is definately more of a hobby than actually going for me but I agree the ones who set stuff up in there garden are very strange but if thats what they like doing then happy days. The way i see it is i like buying fishing tackle even if im not going to use it. It makes me happy and life is about being happy. You cant take your money with you when your in the ground so spend it on things you like.
Im out all the time but rarely fishing and im always buying stuff. In fact im off to the pub shortly with the hound. I just put my new purchases in the wardrobe or the garage with the rest of the collection. The wife did have a bit of a moan when she found my new korda springbow net tucked away behind her dresses on her side of the wardrobe mind.
Buying gear is definately more of a hobby than actually going for me but I agree the ones who set stuff up in there garden are very strange but if thats what they like doing then happy days. The way i see it is i like buying fishing tackle even if im not going to use it. It makes me happy and life is about being happy. You cant take your money with you when your in the ground so spend it on things you like.
In reply to Post #38
What's the point if you're just going stuff it I'm a wardrobe though,if you had it on display somehow it would be worth it
What's the point if you're just going stuff it I'm a wardrobe though,if you had it on display somehow it would be worth it
In reply to Post #38
Is that the old “I forgot I had that
Bought it ages ago and forgot about it “
Line..
Is that the old “I forgot I had that
Bought it ages ago and forgot about it “
Line..
In reply to Post #40
She was more shocked when she found his dresses hidden in there
She was more shocked when she found his dresses hidden in there
In reply to Post #31
I mentioned resurrecting the Tackle Tarts thread earlier.
Perhaps it should include garden and wardrobe setups to cater for all you weirdos
I mentioned resurrecting the Tackle Tarts thread earlier.
Perhaps it should include garden and wardrobe setups to cater for all you weirdos
In reply to Post #39
I get away with just about anything i want but putting a landing net in a glass cabinet might be pushing it a little to far 😀
I admit i have a bit of a problem with buying fishing tackle. Ive even got a daiwa exist reel on my bedside table that i sometimes just lie in bed and turn the handle as its so smooth, sad i know but it gives me a warm feeling of happiness just lying turning the handle 😀 A bit like spinning a chris lythe centrpin and watching it spin. That usually brings some funny looks from the wife when shes lying next to me.
I get away with just about anything i want but putting a landing net in a glass cabinet might be pushing it a little to far 😀
I admit i have a bit of a problem with buying fishing tackle. Ive even got a daiwa exist reel on my bedside table that i sometimes just lie in bed and turn the handle as its so smooth, sad i know but it gives me a warm feeling of happiness just lying turning the handle 😀 A bit like spinning a chris lythe centrpin and watching it spin. That usually brings some funny looks from the wife when shes lying next to me.
In reply to Post #41
😀
😀
In reply to Post #43
I'm sure there must be a helpline that can help you out
I'm sure there must be a helpline that can help you out
In reply to Post #38
I've edited my post, I meant get out fishing not get out the house. If you didn't ever leave the house and still bought all that gear I'd be a bit worried
I've edited my post, I meant get out fishing not get out the house. If you didn't ever leave the house and still bought all that gear I'd be a bit worried
In reply to Post #44
Lying in bed playing with your tackle. Suits you, Sir.
Lying in bed playing with your tackle. Suits you, Sir.
In reply to Post #46
😀 I do go fishing but only about once a month.
😀 I do go fishing but only about once a month.
In reply to Post #47
Only tackle i really play with these days 😀
Only tackle i really play with these days 😀
In reply to Post #43
Kind of with you on this - new spangly toys to spend your hard earned on - why not?! I have a rule however in that if I do buy something new I have to flog something old (tackle wise) - this keeps the world in synch and gives me a more solid story when investigated by the gestapo/wife . .
Kind of with you on this - new spangly toys to spend your hard earned on - why not?! I have a rule however in that if I do buy something new I have to flog something old (tackle wise) - this keeps the world in synch and gives me a more solid story when investigated by the gestapo/wife . .
In reply to Post #50
I used to have this rule too, only trouble was, I always found a way of justification to keep it. For instance, my first carp rods 2 x cheapo Nash 2.75lb 12' still in the garage as I've convinced myself I'm sentimental about them. Same as my 2nd/3rd set of rods, numerous reels and most of the terminal tackle I've bought and not used.
My latest justification is my little boy (now 3) might take up fishing so at least he can have my old kit. Used that one when I bought a new pod from MPS to replace a perfectly good MPS pod.
He'll have more kit than me if he does
I used to have this rule too, only trouble was, I always found a way of justification to keep it. For instance, my first carp rods 2 x cheapo Nash 2.75lb 12' still in the garage as I've convinced myself I'm sentimental about them. Same as my 2nd/3rd set of rods, numerous reels and most of the terminal tackle I've bought and not used.
My latest justification is my little boy (now 3) might take up fishing so at least he can have my old kit. Used that one when I bought a new pod from MPS to replace a perfectly good MPS pod.
He'll have more kit than me if he does
In reply to Post #51
I have 4 grandsons
I have 4 grandsons
In reply to Post #50
Thats whats i do as well. I dont just keep buying stuff or i would need a warehouse to store it all. Im always selling stuff then replacing it with new gear, eases the financial outlay as well. Ive actually only got one set of carp rods so in reality dont really have that much gear really as sold all my barbel gear early in the year. I do have a bit of a spinning reel addiction mind hence the latest daiwa exist purchase but got that for an absolute steel from total fishing tackle so couldnt turn it down.
Thats whats i do as well. I dont just keep buying stuff or i would need a warehouse to store it all. Im always selling stuff then replacing it with new gear, eases the financial outlay as well. Ive actually only got one set of carp rods so in reality dont really have that much gear really as sold all my barbel gear early in the year. I do have a bit of a spinning reel addiction mind hence the latest daiwa exist purchase but got that for an absolute steel from total fishing tackle so couldnt turn it down.
In reply to Post #38
So glad i'm not the only person. Since going self employed with the intention of fishing once a week, then once a month as i got busier. Now it's not even once a year. However do like buying new gear. Want a trip to Johnson ross as need some new rods just can't decide which ones to go for. To be honest doesn't make too much of a difference as they'll just probably stay sat in my tackle shed.
So glad i'm not the only person. Since going self employed with the intention of fishing once a week, then once a month as i got busier. Now it's not even once a year. However do like buying new gear. Want a trip to Johnson ross as need some new rods just can't decide which ones to go for. To be honest doesn't make too much of a difference as they'll just probably stay sat in my tackle shed.
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