Want to treat myself to a new set of rods. What Harrison blanks would people recommend. The 3 x options I am currently looking at are Torrix, Aviator and maybe Ballista. Would also look at century blanks if recommended
My current rods are Daiwa Basia with x45 blanks. Looking for a blank with similar characteristics but just own personal touches on top.
Also could someone recommend a good company to go through to get these made. I have looked online at CJS custom rods and Lee Preston Rods but no idea if they do decent work
My current rods are Daiwa Basia with x45 blanks. Looking for a blank with similar characteristics but just own personal touches on top.
Also could someone recommend a good company to go through to get these made. I have looked online at CJS custom rods and Lee Preston Rods but no idea if they do decent work
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What characteristics would they be? As the 3 blanks you've listed are all quite different
What characteristics would they be? As the 3 blanks you've listed are all quite different
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Hi there looking for something that can be cast at 130-140y with relative accuracy as per my basia rods and not too stiff at the tip to play a mid size fish.
I dont know harrison blanks which is why I asked what would suit me best and in line with the x45 blank. Would also look at century blanks if recommended and if so what model. I have always had daiwa blanks so new to the custom rods market. Obviously dont want to downgrade on what I have now
Hi there looking for something that can be cast at 130-140y with relative accuracy as per my basia rods and not too stiff at the tip to play a mid size fish.
I dont know harrison blanks which is why I asked what would suit me best and in line with the x45 blank. Would also look at century blanks if recommended and if so what model. I have always had daiwa blanks so new to the custom rods market. Obviously dont want to downgrade on what I have now
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In Suffolk you have JR Custom Rods, John Rozier based in Needham Market.
I recall he builds on Harrison blanks.
https://jr-custom-rods.business.site/?utm_source=gmb&utm_medium=referral
In Suffolk you have JR Custom Rods, John Rozier based in Needham Market.
I recall he builds on Harrison blanks.
https://jr-custom-rods.business.site/?utm_source=gmb&utm_medium=referral
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I think in all honesty given the 140 yards you can rule out normal Ballista. I would say you can hit that distance with the longer higher tc versions but those rods were never very popular in the U.K though they sold very well in Europe. I wouldn't personally let it put you off as the playing action might surprise a lot of people. You may find it hard to get a opinion on those rods because they weren't as popular here.
I own 13' Torrix and I'm out of touch with other modern blanks. I like my rods but to me they feel a little heavy. I haven't weighed them in comparison to my 12'6 Ballista ER"s so I may be wrong, its my perception for the moment.
This is a personal opinion. The Aviators I played with at Harrison felt lovely. There was something I couldn't put my finger on with the flex but it left a niggle in my brain which was later confirmed. The tip section is fab, the butt section is fab, but to me they don't feel like they belonged together. I understand what Harrison were trying to do and have done with that rod, it is a lovely rod and most people probably wouldn't notice what I did, I'm just mentioning it in case you might.
The old advice of feel the blank before buying springs to mind.
Rod builders, Kev Clayton, a really nice guy and great work, Mark Tunley same again. A good rod builder will listen to you, will probably do what you want but WILL tell you if they think what you want will compromise the blank
I think in all honesty given the 140 yards you can rule out normal Ballista. I would say you can hit that distance with the longer higher tc versions but those rods were never very popular in the U.K though they sold very well in Europe. I wouldn't personally let it put you off as the playing action might surprise a lot of people. You may find it hard to get a opinion on those rods because they weren't as popular here.
I own 13' Torrix and I'm out of touch with other modern blanks. I like my rods but to me they feel a little heavy. I haven't weighed them in comparison to my 12'6 Ballista ER"s so I may be wrong, its my perception for the moment.
This is a personal opinion. The Aviators I played with at Harrison felt lovely. There was something I couldn't put my finger on with the flex but it left a niggle in my brain which was later confirmed. The tip section is fab, the butt section is fab, but to me they don't feel like they belonged together. I understand what Harrison were trying to do and have done with that rod, it is a lovely rod and most people probably wouldn't notice what I did, I'm just mentioning it in case you might.
The old advice of feel the blank before buying springs to mind.
Rod builders, Kev Clayton, a really nice guy and great work, Mark Tunley same again. A good rod builder will listen to you, will probably do what you want but WILL tell you if they think what you want will compromise the blank
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Jeffire on here builds custom rods
I haven't bought any but a few have and they say good things
Jeffire on here builds custom rods
I haven't bought any but a few have and they say good things
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As below I'd recommend long term forum member Jeffire, I've had a couple of sets of carp rods made by him and a beautiful travel rod for fly fishing.
Great communication, advice, build quality and price.
Pm me if you want any additional info, as far as I know he only uses Harrison blanks.
Cheers
Tel
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As below I'd recommend long term forum member Jeffire, I've had a couple of sets of carp rods made by him and a beautiful travel rod for fly fishing.
Great communication, advice, build quality and price.
Pm me if you want any additional info, as far as I know he only uses Harrison blanks.
Cheers
Tel
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You can pretty much rule out the ballista for that kind of range , they are a fantastic short to medium range playing blank. Can't comment on the torrix because I've never owned or used them, but I do currently have the aviator flex which would be perfect for the work that you want them for. The way a blank is built can have a massive effect on how it behaves too so bear that in mind. As someone mentioned ,jeffire on here is a rod builder, he's definitely worth dropping a pm. I had mine built by Chris orme who I had no issues with at all but I know some people have had quite major problems with regards timescales. I saw a set of rods built by a fairly new builder called Chris Palmer recently too and they were very nicely done. Or key Clayton always gets good feedback
As for century stuff, can't really comment as I've not used anything from them for many years now, they are very expensive when compared to Harrison these days though
You can pretty much rule out the ballista for that kind of range , they are a fantastic short to medium range playing blank. Can't comment on the torrix because I've never owned or used them, but I do currently have the aviator flex which would be perfect for the work that you want them for. The way a blank is built can have a massive effect on how it behaves too so bear that in mind. As someone mentioned ,jeffire on here is a rod builder, he's definitely worth dropping a pm. I had mine built by Chris orme who I had no issues with at all but I know some people have had quite major problems with regards timescales. I saw a set of rods built by a fairly new builder called Chris Palmer recently too and they were very nicely done. Or key Clayton always gets good feedback
As for century stuff, can't really comment as I've not used anything from them for many years now, they are very expensive when compared to Harrison these days though
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Cheers pal actually veering towards the Avator plus 12ft 3.6tc looking at them. Would double up as my bigger water rods and can then still utilize my basia 3.25tc for mid to smaller lakes.
The flex I suppose could overtake as a single rod setup and replace my basia's too. How do you find playing fish on that rod?
Also looking at the century stealth graphene blanks which from reading online is fantastic. But dont know if the price increase would equate to same performance increase
Cheers pal actually veering towards the Avator plus 12ft 3.6tc looking at them. Would double up as my bigger water rods and can then still utilize my basia 3.25tc for mid to smaller lakes.
The flex I suppose could overtake as a single rod setup and replace my basia's too. How do you find playing fish on that rod?
Also looking at the century stealth graphene blanks which from reading online is fantastic. But dont know if the price increase would equate to same performance increase
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They are a dream to play fish on mate. I've used them under the tips and up to well over 150 yards. Had great fun playing scrappy little doubles but had the backbone to land a catfish of over 120lb . I don't believe it's possible to have a true "all-rounder" rod, but these come as close as I could imagine them to.
They are a dream to play fish on mate. I've used them under the tips and up to well over 150 yards. Had great fun playing scrappy little doubles but had the backbone to land a catfish of over 120lb . I don't believe it's possible to have a true "all-rounder" rod, but these come as close as I could imagine them to.
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I would go for a free spirit Hi S Ive or Harrison Trebuchet light. I would want a rod that is capable and has reserve not overgunning something.
Calvin Hancock is well respected -certainly round my way.
I would go for a free spirit Hi S Ive or Harrison Trebuchet light. I would want a rod that is capable and has reserve not overgunning something.
Calvin Hancock is well respected -certainly round my way.
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I build custom rods through the winters. I'd recommend getting to a shop or rod builder and actually having a look at some in the flesh, even better trying some out if you can.
Personally I really like the 12.6 aviators, and I think they often get overlooked. I've built myself a set of 4 and matching spod last year with a few bigger waters in mind where casts around 140/150 yards may be needed. These replaces my r1 extremes which were a Harrison blank, 12.6 3.75 which were too pokey and more of a sole distance rod. So far they've been faultless. Nice thin tip maintains a nice fish playing characteristic and they are powerful enough in the butt to get leads out there when needed. Have caught fish under the tip using braid and 1oz leads this year, aswell as a couple at 120 yards and in both situations I never felt like I was left wanting of anything. Although with regards to fish playing, I'm not overly romantic about it all, I fish super low stock weedy snaggy gravel pits on very limited time. just looking for the end result of a fish in the net rather than a hook pull.
Ultimately all blank manufacturers have various ranges and tc to suit a vast array of needs, ability's etc so it is very personal.
I build custom rods through the winters. I'd recommend getting to a shop or rod builder and actually having a look at some in the flesh, even better trying some out if you can.
Personally I really like the 12.6 aviators, and I think they often get overlooked. I've built myself a set of 4 and matching spod last year with a few bigger waters in mind where casts around 140/150 yards may be needed. These replaces my r1 extremes which were a Harrison blank, 12.6 3.75 which were too pokey and more of a sole distance rod. So far they've been faultless. Nice thin tip maintains a nice fish playing characteristic and they are powerful enough in the butt to get leads out there when needed. Have caught fish under the tip using braid and 1oz leads this year, aswell as a couple at 120 yards and in both situations I never felt like I was left wanting of anything. Although with regards to fish playing, I'm not overly romantic about it all, I fish super low stock weedy snaggy gravel pits on very limited time. just looking for the end result of a fish in the net rather than a hook pull.
Ultimately all blank manufacturers have various ranges and tc to suit a vast array of needs, ability's etc so it is very personal.
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I have the aviator flex too and think they're great, as you say good fun with small fish under the tips as well as bigger fish at distance.
Mine built by Mark Tunley, fantastic work to exactly how I asked them to be (albeit that's very plain and understated lol, no bling)
Ps the above is not saying they are the right rod for the OP, just agreeing with ip10 lol
I have the aviator flex too and think they're great, as you say good fun with small fish under the tips as well as bigger fish at distance.
Mine built by Mark Tunley, fantastic work to exactly how I asked them to be (albeit that's very plain and understated lol, no bling)
Ps the above is not saying they are the right rod for the OP, just agreeing with ip10 lol
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Out of interest, do you know what the closest off the peg Harrison blank is to the 12/3.25 R1 from Cotswold?
Out of interest, do you know what the closest off the peg Harrison blank is to the 12/3.25 R1 from Cotswold?
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If you are looking for similar characteristics- why not go for a complete rebuild on these pukka blanks. I love custom rods as rarely find anything off the shelf that isn't a bit of a compromise and doesn't play into my tartyness addiction. I had some 10ft torrix built by Chris Orme and the guy is brilliant. Many other good rod builders about but I've never seen a bad looking rod that he's made.
If you are looking for similar characteristics- why not go for a complete rebuild on these pukka blanks. I love custom rods as rarely find anything off the shelf that isn't a bit of a compromise and doesn't play into my tartyness addiction. I had some 10ft torrix built by Chris Orme and the guy is brilliant. Many other good rod builders about but I've never seen a bad looking rod that he's made.
I have owned both the 12ft and more recently the 12ft6 aviators and I much prefer the slightly longer blanks. It's amazing how much this changes the rod - they are able to punch a lead further yet still retain great fish playing ability under the rod tip. The 12ft versions were nowhere near as forgiving close in. I had mine made up by Nick Buss but I think he has retired now. It is worth searching the internet for custom build options of things that you like. I did this and then drew a diagram for Nick to follow which he did perfectly. There are so many really nice custom options now which any reputable rod builder will be able to do for you.
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Cheers for the input guys going with the Harrison Aviator 12.6 foot blanks in 3.5tc customised to my personal spec. Expensive week. 5 of them and a rt7 on order. Wife must never find out 😂
Cheers for the input guys going with the Harrison Aviator 12.6 foot blanks in 3.5tc customised to my personal spec. Expensive week. 5 of them and a rt7 on order. Wife must never find out 😂
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At £50 a rod you're having 5 of them? How can you then afford the other £150 for the rt7?
At £50 a rod you're having 5 of them? How can you then afford the other £150 for the rt7?
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Sad thing is she would probably winge at those prices too lol
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Sad thing is she would probably winge at those prices too lol
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These? New? No I just had them repaired, I've always had them. The boat was 90% off a bloke died and his grandson was selling it for a wrap of crack....
These? New? No I just had them repaired, I've always had them. The boat was 90% off a bloke died and his grandson was selling it for a wrap of crack....
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Which r1? The original pre weave one or the later. Hard to say on either realty, I actually own the original r1's before they had a weave I'd say something along the lines of a ballista if anything.
Which r1? The original pre weave one or the later. Hard to say on either realty, I actually own the original r1's before they had a weave I'd say something along the lines of a ballista if anything.
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Agree with Vossy - I have a set of 12' Aviator Plus and whilst they look the part / are lovely to handle and play fish on they are a casting nightmare (for me / my style at any rate) - the timing window is very narrow IMO and it may be to do with the butt/tip relationship hence peeps recommending either the 12'6" or the 13' in preference . . . saying that I'm on the verge of pushing the button on some 10' Aviators in 3.25 which are supposed to be a different animal . . .
Agree with Vossy - I have a set of 12' Aviator Plus and whilst they look the part / are lovely to handle and play fish on they are a casting nightmare (for me / my style at any rate) - the timing window is very narrow IMO and it may be to do with the butt/tip relationship hence peeps recommending either the 12'6" or the 13' in preference . . . saying that I'm on the verge of pushing the button on some 10' Aviators in 3.25 which are supposed to be a different animal . . .
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Had the original r1 lights. Great blank, still gutted I sold them.
Had the original r1 lights. Great blank, still gutted I sold them.
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the 10 footers are super buddy .
the 10 footers are super buddy .
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The aviator 13 ft 3.5 are great rods. not an all out casting rod by any means. Great under tip for smaller fish and the extra 6 inches may help distance wise as 140 with any headwind is quite a chuck.
The aviator 13 ft 3.5 are great rods. not an all out casting rod by any means. Great under tip for smaller fish and the extra 6 inches may help distance wise as 140 with any headwind is quite a chuck.
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Cheers for the advice pal but in the process of ordering the 12.6 ft 3.5tc variant.
Out of curiosity to anybody owning them what rodall do you use? Realised my current 12ft nash rod bag wont be big enough. Will they fit in a 13ft bag?
Cheers for the advice pal but in the process of ordering the 12.6 ft 3.5tc variant.
Out of curiosity to anybody owning them what rodall do you use? Realised my current 12ft nash rod bag wont be big enough. Will they fit in a 13ft bag?
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The Solar 13 foot rod bag that takes, three built rods internally, two outside and a pouch for sticks and nets.
The Solar 13 foot rod bag that takes, three built rods internally, two outside and a pouch for sticks and nets.
In reply to Post #26
I use the 13ft Korda Compac 5 rod for my 12'6 Aviators and a 13' Spod Rod
I use the 13ft Korda Compac 5 rod for my 12'6 Aviators and a 13' Spod Rod
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Be careful when deciding on your rod sleeves as it does depend on your rings. I have the TI forged American tackle rod rings on my 12ft 6 Aviators and the only bag that would take them was the Korda Compac. Beautiful rings although a bit like marmite - some people love them others hate them!
Be careful when deciding on your rod sleeves as it does depend on your rings. I have the TI forged American tackle rod rings on my 12ft 6 Aviators and the only bag that would take them was the Korda Compac. Beautiful rings although a bit like marmite - some people love them others hate them!
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Cheers for the tip pal actually looking at the fox 3 + 3 camo lite bag. Might wait for rods to come to see. I went with fuji tkwsg guides which i would probably put in the same boat on looks. But they will be tough as nails and like the contrast. Fun specking custom rods
Cheers for the tip pal actually looking at the fox 3 + 3 camo lite bag. Might wait for rods to come to see. I went with fuji tkwsg guides which i would probably put in the same boat on looks. But they will be tough as nails and like the contrast. Fun specking custom rods
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I recently had a set of aviator plus 3 built by lee preston the build quality is outstanding and he was more than helpfull in choosing. I went to him and he showed me a few different models and all the different components before i decided.
The plus 3's are powerfull rods but they do a 13ft 3.5lb which is highly rated and for the distance you want then that maybe a good should. Or as someone else stated the treb lite.
I recently had a set of aviator plus 3 built by lee preston the build quality is outstanding and he was more than helpfull in choosing. I went to him and he showed me a few different models and all the different components before i decided.
The plus 3's are powerfull rods but they do a 13ft 3.5lb which is highly rated and for the distance you want then that maybe a good should. Or as someone else stated the treb lite.
In reply to Post #31
Lee built me a set of Aviators a couple of years ago. The work is outstanding and he was very helpful whenever I spoke to him. Highly recommend.
Lee built me a set of Aviators a couple of years ago. The work is outstanding and he was very helpful whenever I spoke to him. Highly recommend.
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Yeah Lee is the one building mine. 7 week turnaround though hate waiting for new toys 😂
Yeah Lee is the one building mine. 7 week turnaround though hate waiting for new toys 😂
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