Fishing under the ice, as Mozza & Bartlett do in their latest DNA YT video, promotes "bad angling" 
Imho
This catch at all costs mentality is bang outta order, and fisheries shouldn´t condone such practice. Bartlett smashing a hole in the ice, infront of his rods, then pushing his bushwacker under the ice, all the way to the island
What happens when the hole in the ice infront of the rods freezes over, then a 40 or 50 picks up the hookbait and dashes off. This could indeed cause the mainline(just off the rod tip) to snap, leaving a trophy carp swimming around under the ice, trailing 30 or 40yds of mainline, before getting snagged up somewhere 
Bad angling by 2 so-called "high profile anglers". Fish in open water, and if risk of a lid forming, reel in and go home ffs
Imho This catch at all costs mentality is bang outta order, and fisheries shouldn´t condone such practice. Bartlett smashing a hole in the ice, infront of his rods, then pushing his bushwacker under the ice, all the way to the island
What happens when the hole in the ice infront of the rods freezes over, then a 40 or 50 picks up the hookbait and dashes off. This could indeed cause the mainline(just off the rod tip) to snap, leaving a trophy carp swimming around under the ice, trailing 30 or 40yds of mainline, before getting snagged up somewhere Bad angling by 2 so-called "high profile anglers".
Fish in open water, and if risk of a lid forming, reel in and go home ffs
I agree but I found it funny that you specifically say "40 or 50" and "trophy carp". Carp fishing is hilarious nowadays.
Personally i was very amused by bartlett saying that the tree trunk fitted perfectly into the new avid holdall, can't leave home without one!
As i tend to watch these while doing other stuff, i missed the bush wacker bit. That sounds a bit dodgy to me. But i have done quite a bit of under the ice fishing when younger and as long as you keep a bit of an ice hole things mostly go ok.
As i tend to watch these while doing other stuff, i missed the bush wacker bit. That sounds a bit dodgy to me. But i have done quite a bit of under the ice fishing when younger and as long as you keep a bit of an ice hole things mostly go ok.
In reply to Post #3
things mostly go ok.
And that quote in relation to the subject matter should rule the practice out for anyone with any consideration for the carp they are fishing for.
things mostly go ok.
And that quote in relation to the subject matter should rule the practice out for anyone with any consideration for the carp they are fishing for.
In reply to Post #4
Watched a few of these and usually they are bearable , this one I thought same as op and tbh turned it off ., bit pointless and not setting a good example for new starters etc . Just my opinion n all that 🤷🏼♂️
Watched a few of these and usually they are bearable , this one I thought same as op and tbh turned it off ., bit pointless and not setting a good example for new starters etc . Just my opinion n all that 🤷🏼♂️
In reply to Post #1
How are you supposed to play a fish at 50 yards through a hole in the ice at your rod tips?
How are you supposed to play a fish at 50 yards through a hole in the ice at your rod tips?
In reply to Post #6
Dip your tip under the water
Dip your tip under the water
In reply to Post #6
I wouldn't even bother playing it in unless it's a 40 - 50 lber or a trophy carp mate
I wouldn't even bother playing it in unless it's a 40 - 50 lber or a trophy carp mate
Why go at all fishing in those conditions, you'd have to be a epic sad sack to have nothing more of importance or interest in during the time of such conditions it just reeks of desperation to me I'm afraid, but I suppose my perspective maybe coloured by actually having a life and just assuming everyone's the same. 
In reply to Post #7
It's quite refreshing in the summer.
It's quite refreshing in the summer.
In reply to Post #10
Only if no pike are around
Only if no pike are around
In reply to Post #9
Well it's their job so. They'd probably rather doing something else but it's work. Same for any outdoor workers when it's cold.
Well it's their job so. They'd probably rather doing something else but it's work. Same for any outdoor workers when it's cold.
In reply to Post #8
That´s what these "high profile anglers" are there for tbh 40s 50s trophy carp for the media. Go through all that hassle and brave the cold, for a 20 or wrong´un That´s "their" mentality, to get the job done properly with a "proper" fish
Personally, carp of any size have their charm, but each to their own. C1s to C7s can easily be replaced, by fisheries, but the older, larger individuals are the ones that draw in the punters, and this type of bad angling.
That´s what these "high profile anglers" are there for tbh
40s 50s trophy carp for the media. Go through all that hassle and brave the cold, for a 20 or wrong´un That´s "their" mentality, to get the job done properly with a "proper" fish Personally, carp of any size have their charm, but each to their own. C1s to C7s can easily be replaced, by fisheries, but the older, larger individuals are the ones that draw in the punters, and this type of bad angling.
In reply to Post #11
Because it's the job, in that case why doesn't the golf course grounds keeper still have a crack at mowing the greens after a snow blanket a foot deep, sorry bit your reply to my post is very shallow minded.
maybe you'll have no objections them fishing for spawning fish then with it being the job and a outdoor one at that. 
Because it's the job, in that case why doesn't the golf course grounds keeper still have a crack at mowing the greens after a snow blanket a foot deep, sorry bit your reply to my post is very shallow minded.
maybe you'll have no objections them fishing for spawning fish then with it being the job and a outdoor one at that.
In reply to Post #14
Never said I condone the techniques they are using. You said they have no lives so I simply reminded you that it's their job to go fishing. It's not just a hobby like it is for most of us. They could have just found a lake that wasn't frozen over but they didn't which is a bit odd.
It's funny you pick a job like a green keeper and think they just shut up shop for winter. Golf courses are open all year round, and winter is maintenance time. Just follow some golf courses on social media and you'll see them amount of work they do over winter.
By your opinion no one should work outside when it's cold?? Makes zero sense.
They go fishing for a living, they have to go. You can't attack them on a personal level saying they have no lives, etc because of they go fishing in the cold. It's their job. Also there are 1000s of anglers who fish whatever the weather. Are they included in having no life or just the ones employed to fish? Jealous much?
Never said I condone the techniques they are using. You said they have no lives so I simply reminded you that it's their job to go fishing. It's not just a hobby like it is for most of us. They could have just found a lake that wasn't frozen over but they didn't which is a bit odd.
It's funny you pick a job like a green keeper and think they just shut up shop for winter. Golf courses are open all year round, and winter is maintenance time. Just follow some golf courses on social media and you'll see them amount of work they do over winter.
By your opinion no one should work outside when it's cold?? Makes zero sense.
They go fishing for a living, they have to go. You can't attack them on a personal level saying they have no lives, etc because of they go fishing in the cold. It's their job. Also there are 1000s of anglers who fish whatever the weather. Are they included in having no life or just the ones employed to fish? Jealous much?
In reply to Post #14
As Greekski said, golf course is a year round job.
You don't see much of the work because it's done early.
I used to work as a Hotel Manager at a Hotel, Golf Club and Spa, and have seen the maintenance guys on course, mowing greens and removing dew on the grass by hand at sunrise in the winter.
I don't condone fishing under the ice, but when you need to make a living, you have to work. It's not always possible to be at home wrapped up.
I've been fishing when the lake has frozen over, the hole I was fishing in getting smaller every day, even the whole lake freezing up in one night. I must admit I've never had to play a fish through ice though.
As Greekski said, golf course is a year round job.
You don't see much of the work because it's done early.
I used to work as a Hotel Manager at a Hotel, Golf Club and Spa, and have seen the maintenance guys on course, mowing greens and removing dew on the grass by hand at sunrise in the winter.
I don't condone fishing under the ice, but when you need to make a living, you have to work. It's not always possible to be at home wrapped up.
I've been fishing when the lake has frozen over, the hole I was fishing in getting smaller every day, even the whole lake freezing up in one night. I must admit I've never had to play a fish through ice though.
In reply to Post #1
Bad angling yes but let's not forget their sponsors are just as bad for sponsoring them and allowing the vid to be put out. Most employees working for any half decent company have to follow a code of conduct which is missing from carp angling in general.
Bad angling yes but let's not forget their sponsors are just as bad for sponsoring them and allowing the vid to be put out. Most employees working for any half decent company have to follow a code of conduct which is missing from carp angling in general.
If I'm not mistaken Bartlett is the fishery owner and sets his own rules? yes probably the wrong choice to purposely fish under the ice but I would guess 99% of anglers would choose not to.
Michael
Michael
Bart owns acorn fishery so I suppose he can do what he wants, do I think it's right? Of course not but who can tell him what he can and can't do on his own lake
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