I've been watching a few carping videos on YouTube lately, not something I do a lot of I must admit, but it seems EU public waters are now the current craze. It's something I have only ever done in France, Germany and Austria apart from on 2 occasions when I tried private lakes.
I don't however see the attraction of racing from one river or lake to the next after perhaps one or two nights blanking somewhere. Is it because the anglers are tackle or bait company reps and they have to catch at all costs?
Whatever the reason I don't get it.
I don't however see the attraction of racing from one river or lake to the next after perhaps one or two nights blanking somewhere. Is it because the anglers are tackle or bait company reps and they have to catch at all costs?
Whatever the reason I don't get it.
In reply to Post #1
It's ok
With everyone now going abroad to get away from the crowds the banks over here will be quieter lol
Just keep it quiet about catching and everyone may go over there lol
It's ok
With everyone now going abroad to get away from the crowds the banks over here will be quieter lol
Just keep it quiet about catching and everyone may go over there lol
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I've noticed this too, 2 week trip, but they go to 8 different lakes. I completely understand moving venues if it's packed, or doesn't look like it will do a bite, but it seems they have it all planned out beforehand. Each to there own and all that. Seems like an awful lot of hard work for no reason though.
I've noticed this too, 2 week trip, but they go to 8 different lakes. I completely understand moving venues if it's packed, or doesn't look like it will do a bite, but it seems they have it all planned out beforehand. Each to there own and all that. Seems like an awful lot of hard work for no reason though.
I've seen this too - but it's purely for the content rather than a new craze.
They are fully backed by their sponsors covering a huge list of costs involved moving from lake to lake chasing the bites.
Makes for different style of videos but not something you'd copy.
They are fully backed by their sponsors covering a huge list of costs involved moving from lake to lake chasing the bites.
Makes for different style of videos but not something you'd copy.
In reply to Post #4
The two from the baitworks podcast just did a trip like this though, not for the cameras, because they wanted to do it. They spoke about it on the latest podcast I think.
The two from the baitworks podcast just did a trip like this though, not for the cameras, because they wanted to do it. They spoke about it on the latest podcast I think.
In reply to Post #1
They're only moving a lot because they're filming and it needs to be interesting content.
That said, if you were 2 or 3 nights in and it wasn't happening, wouldn't you move?
They're only moving a lot because they're filming and it needs to be interesting content.
That said, if you were 2 or 3 nights in and it wasn't happening, wouldn't you move?
They are just mimicking the great eurobanx.
But it's nice to see people finally moving away from pay lakes. Nothing wrong with them, but there is so much fishing and living to be had outside the gated lakes with the pre-build swims.
But it's nice to see people finally moving away from pay lakes. Nothing wrong with them, but there is so much fishing and living to be had outside the gated lakes with the pre-build swims.
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Yes. After 2-3 nights I would, not after 12 hours. I would never dream of rocking up at some swim on a massive river, put in a kilo of bait and believe the reason I didn't catch was because the fish just weren't there!
The whole thing smacks of impatience, rushing around from one swim to another. There doesn't seem to be any thoughts on building a swim, baiting tactics. One day here, kilo of bait per rod, next day somewhere else, kilo of bait per rod...
Yes. After 2-3 nights I would, not after 12 hours. I would never dream of rocking up at some swim on a massive river, put in a kilo of bait and believe the reason I didn't catch was because the fish just weren't there!
The whole thing smacks of impatience, rushing around from one swim to another. There doesn't seem to be any thoughts on building a swim, baiting tactics. One day here, kilo of bait per rod, next day somewhere else, kilo of bait per rod...
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I don't disagree with you at all, it just wouldn't be very interesting to watch.
I don't disagree with you at all, it just wouldn't be very interesting to watch.
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But they aren't chasing fish round a lake, they're literally upping sticks and driving 100 miles to a different lake and starting again.
I certainly ding find it entertaining to watch at all. ADHD carping.
But they aren't chasing fish round a lake, they're literally upping sticks and driving 100 miles to a different lake and starting again.
I certainly ding find it entertaining to watch at all. ADHD carping.
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I get the impression they are perhaps given a list of locations by mates and others in the trade that have fished the same rivers and lakes. Even down to the GPS data where they can park right in the swim. Perhaps they have an ultimate destination in mind and are breaking up the journey? All the same, give it a couple of days and enjoy the view!
One guy was rushing around so much he nearly lost his boat. Another decided to try amputating a couple of fingers by wrestling with an electric motor tangled up in braid. Others are impatient and fractious and oozing aggression. It reminds me a bit of Matt Hayes and "The great rod race".
How to turn relaxation into a competition.
I get the impression they are perhaps given a list of locations by mates and others in the trade that have fished the same rivers and lakes. Even down to the GPS data where they can park right in the swim. Perhaps they have an ultimate destination in mind and are breaking up the journey? All the same, give it a couple of days and enjoy the view!
One guy was rushing around so much he nearly lost his boat. Another decided to try amputating a couple of fingers by wrestling with an electric motor tangled up in braid. Others are impatient and fractious and oozing aggression. It reminds me a bit of Matt Hayes and "The great rod race".
How to turn relaxation into a competition.
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Sounds like they are all on drugs
Aggressive, charging about, impatient, minds working 1000mph, up all night and day...
Sounds like they are all on drugs
Aggressive, charging about, impatient, minds working 1000mph, up all night and day...
They're just making content, it's not real fishing. Someone somewhere decided that more venues is better and the rest just copy.
In reply to Post #10
ADHD carping
ADHD carping
In reply to Post #1
Why wouldn't you?
France is a big 'ol bit of land. Just fishing one of the 90+ departments could take you years if you only fished one water per week. I've got about a decades worth of fishing noted down, just in the north, and that's if I go with the mentality of fishing 3 waters over a five day period.
If I have spent hundreds on an adventure, why twiddle my thumbs for two days in the hope of having one in two days, when the next water I could have three in an overnighter?
Plus by fishing as many lakes as possible, you get to note the better lakes for future trips, so a year down the line you get to visit a couple of "banker" waters, relax a little, and reap the rewards of the previous legwork you had put in previously.
If people want to spend up to a grand fishing the same lake all week surrounded by 10 other english blokes that's down to them, but I prefer to fish the way I fish over here. Daytime legwork, overnighters, get some morning bites then move on. You can fish exactly the same as you do here, but the yootoob vids would lead you to believe that you needs boats and fish rainbow style, when some of the best fishing could be had on very English looking waters with no anglers on them. People just cannot be arsed to do the homework, the legwork, and want to catch 80's from the pay lakes.
Why wouldn't you?
France is a big 'ol bit of land. Just fishing one of the 90+ departments could take you years if you only fished one water per week. I've got about a decades worth of fishing noted down, just in the north, and that's if I go with the mentality of fishing 3 waters over a five day period.
If I have spent hundreds on an adventure, why twiddle my thumbs for two days in the hope of having one in two days, when the next water I could have three in an overnighter?
Plus by fishing as many lakes as possible, you get to note the better lakes for future trips, so a year down the line you get to visit a couple of "banker" waters, relax a little, and reap the rewards of the previous legwork you had put in previously.
If people want to spend up to a grand fishing the same lake all week surrounded by 10 other english blokes that's down to them, but I prefer to fish the way I fish over here. Daytime legwork, overnighters, get some morning bites then move on. You can fish exactly the same as you do here, but the yootoob vids would lead you to believe that you needs boats and fish rainbow style, when some of the best fishing could be had on very English looking waters with no anglers on them. People just cannot be arsed to do the homework, the legwork, and want to catch 80's from the pay lakes.
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I don't know how you can judge what are the better lakes, swims or sections of rivers based on what you do or don't catch in one or two days? It can take months and even years to learn the better areas on a single French river!
And the comparison wasn't between Public and Private waters. The comment I made was on the short attention span style of fishing. "Well I've pitched up in the dark, heard a few shows in the night dropped a kilo of bait per rod, and yet I didn't catch!!!?? They musn't be interested. Off we go to the next destination my buddy told me about".
At least try a half a kilo of bait and see if bite time isn't during the hours of darkness?
ADHD carping says it exactly.
I don't know how you can judge what are the better lakes, swims or sections of rivers based on what you do or don't catch in one or two days? It can take months and even years to learn the better areas on a single French river!
And the comparison wasn't between Public and Private waters. The comment I made was on the short attention span style of fishing. "Well I've pitched up in the dark, heard a few shows in the night dropped a kilo of bait per rod, and yet I didn't catch!!!?? They musn't be interested. Off we go to the next destination my buddy told me about".
At least try a half a kilo of bait and see if bite time isn't during the hours of darkness?
ADHD carping says it exactly.
I'm of the mind that sometimes you have to sit and wait, not run around like a headless chicken.
It's not France or mainland Europe, but I have seen waters in England where it can take a couple of days for fish to accept bait in a spot before they will feed. Not 'small' fish either, well not unless you count 30lb as small.
Ken T wrote about it as well, his chapter in Tim Paisley's Big Carp, a fish that took 2 days until it picked up the 'tethered' bait.
On Taverham I had a cacke week, nothing on the bait from Monday until Thursday. On Friday I ended up with 3 fish from the baited area within 15minutes. They simply would not come over it.
The only reason I could see me going from water to water is to avoid other anglers on crowded waters.
It's not France or mainland Europe, but I have seen waters in England where it can take a couple of days for fish to accept bait in a spot before they will feed. Not 'small' fish either, well not unless you count 30lb as small.
Ken T wrote about it as well, his chapter in Tim Paisley's Big Carp, a fish that took 2 days until it picked up the 'tethered' bait.
On Taverham I had a cacke week, nothing on the bait from Monday until Thursday. On Friday I ended up with 3 fish from the baited area within 15minutes. They simply would not come over it.
The only reason I could see me going from water to water is to avoid other anglers on crowded waters.
In reply to Post #17
Theres a reason people talk about Big fish Thursday.
Theres a reason people talk about Big fish Thursday.
In reply to Post #1
Sounds to me like you've just discovered that some anglers are finding new, enjoyable ways to fish, other than the British dayticket/paylake experience?
Sounds to me like you've just discovered that some anglers are finding new, enjoyable ways to fish, other than the British dayticket/paylake experience?
In reply to Post #19
Looks like another person that can read and yet not understand.
Looks like another person that can read and yet not understand.
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Because it makes videos look more intense and gives nice excuse when blanking... O only have 1 night off to the river tomorrow can we cath? Makes vlog look like success no matter what is caught... After years of super titles like 68 fish in 2 days, 1500lb in 4 nights etc it looks kind of boring when vloger fishes the same water for 5 days and cathes 3 bream and looses 1 carp... Got to be intense... I am sure I would catch tonight but got to move on etc 😂😂
Because it makes videos look more intense and gives nice excuse when blanking... O only have 1 night off to the river tomorrow can we cath? Makes vlog look like success no matter what is caught... After years of super titles like 68 fish in 2 days, 1500lb in 4 nights etc it looks kind of boring when vloger fishes the same water for 5 days and cathes 3 bream and looses 1 carp... Got to be intense... I am sure I would catch tonight but got to move on etc 😂😂
Well over 15 years ago now, before kids etc I did a marathon (for me) trip that took in Thorpe Lea for an overnighter (5 x 20's, left me in bits), then off to a small syndicate near Harefield for two days as a guest of a mate, then onto Yateley Pads for 48 hours for a lake exclusive with more friends, then Burghfield Blue Pool for 24 hours (caught my current PB whilst the rest of them blanked) then an overnighter at Farlows on the way back. It was great fun, certainly not boring, and completely knackering. Would I do it again? Definitely! Do I want to do it all the time or fish this way all the time? No chance.
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It may be boring to some, but reading back on my previous post it may seem like I dismiss the effort put into putting the pieces of the jigsaw together on one water. Quite the opposite.
I appreciate anyone who is willing to spend all that money and put the effort in knowing they may only catch one or two fish in one week. I enjoy that aspect in film making too, as it's more story based rather than the whole "another twenty on the crumb mix" nonsense that is just not engaging for me.
I'm a proper woman when it comes to a story. I've never liked fiction, so to me watching someone bang out 1500lb in 4 nights is complete fiction when relating it to mine and my mates angling. It's just a numbers game. I recently gave up a ticket because I got bored of catching 4 or 5 per night, even to the point of putting the unhooking mat right next to the drink to make flopping them back easier. That's not what it's all about is it? well, for me it's not. For others, they enjoy the fight and the process of landing etc. For me, it's about the journey, and that journey could start months if not years before you set eyes on a lake. Especially in France.
It may be boring to some, but reading back on my previous post it may seem like I dismiss the effort put into putting the pieces of the jigsaw together on one water. Quite the opposite.
I appreciate anyone who is willing to spend all that money and put the effort in knowing they may only catch one or two fish in one week. I enjoy that aspect in film making too, as it's more story based rather than the whole "another twenty on the crumb mix" nonsense that is just not engaging for me.
I'm a proper woman when it comes to a story. I've never liked fiction, so to me watching someone bang out 1500lb in 4 nights is complete fiction when relating it to mine and my mates angling. It's just a numbers game. I recently gave up a ticket because I got bored of catching 4 or 5 per night, even to the point of putting the unhooking mat right next to the drink to make flopping them back easier. That's not what it's all about is it? well, for me it's not. For others, they enjoy the fight and the process of landing etc. For me, it's about the journey, and that journey could start months if not years before you set eyes on a lake. Especially in France.
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I love learning a water, although I think it's easier if there are fewer anglers rather than a busy circuit day ticket or even busy club lake.
I couldn't be flitting from water to water, it is not my style, but my fishing does have limitations in that I get a time limit either in my head, by captures or when I feel I've done or gone as far as I can.
I knew almost every feature in Taverham Mills, Earith Virginia I felt I had caught the best fish from my time on there within 2 years. Nazeing Meads and Alton Water I would have fished for longer, but personal circumstances meant my time was over.
There are some waters that just scream 'atmosphere', my current syndicate lake is like that. I heard about it in the late 1980's for pike fishing, knew exactly where it was, drove past occasionally through work, then when I was offered a place 3years ago for the carp it contained I jumped on it.
I love learning a water, although I think it's easier if there are fewer anglers rather than a busy circuit day ticket or even busy club lake.
I couldn't be flitting from water to water, it is not my style, but my fishing does have limitations in that I get a time limit either in my head, by captures or when I feel I've done or gone as far as I can.
I knew almost every feature in Taverham Mills, Earith Virginia I felt I had caught the best fish from my time on there within 2 years. Nazeing Meads and Alton Water I would have fished for longer, but personal circumstances meant my time was over.
There are some waters that just scream 'atmosphere', my current syndicate lake is like that. I heard about it in the late 1980's for pike fishing, knew exactly where it was, drove past occasionally through work, then when I was offered a place 3years ago for the carp it contained I jumped on it.
In reply to Post #23
I don't understand why you are going from one extreme to another? Who is making any comparisons with "banging out 1500lb in 4 nights". You do realise there are many grey areas in between?
I certainly have never expressed any wish to see anyone bagging up. in fact when I watch such videos, the actual playing of the fish and trophy shots are the most boring bits.
Some of these people are fishing in such picturesque scenery than they probably ever will again and yet all they seem to want to do is catch immediately or up sticks if they don't!
I'm all for putting in the effort, yet the only effort they are putting in is to drive to a different destination and do EXACTLY the same thing that they have done at the previous destination! Where is the interest in that? Especially if your not even prepared to take a breath and take in your surroundings?
I don't understand why you are going from one extreme to another? Who is making any comparisons with "banging out 1500lb in 4 nights". You do realise there are many grey areas in between?
I certainly have never expressed any wish to see anyone bagging up. in fact when I watch such videos, the actual playing of the fish and trophy shots are the most boring bits.
Some of these people are fishing in such picturesque scenery than they probably ever will again and yet all they seem to want to do is catch immediately or up sticks if they don't!
I'm all for putting in the effort, yet the only effort they are putting in is to drive to a different destination and do EXACTLY the same thing that they have done at the previous destination! Where is the interest in that? Especially if your not even prepared to take a breath and take in your surroundings?
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Same here when I lived in Southampton I fished a little pool up by the itchen and fished the pool loads of times but it took me quite a few sessions to get my head round how hard the water was considering you could walk round it in 15/20 mins at a push maybe less,it got to the stage where when I turned up I was that confident of catching and the same for the river had a fair few carp out of the itchen all through learning the water.
I can't be done jumping from water to water,I normaly fish the canal from April till September then on one of 2 lakes from October onwards if I'm more successful on one I stay on there.
Same here when I lived in Southampton I fished a little pool up by the itchen and fished the pool loads of times but it took me quite a few sessions to get my head round how hard the water was considering you could walk round it in 15/20 mins at a push maybe less,it got to the stage where when I turned up I was that confident of catching and the same for the river had a fair few carp out of the itchen all through learning the water.
I can't be done jumping from water to water,I normaly fish the canal from April till September then on one of 2 lakes from October onwards if I'm more successful on one I stay on there.
In reply to Post #26
little pool up by the itchen and fished the pool loads of times but it took me quite a few sessions to get my head round how hard the water was considering you could walk round it in 15/20 mins at a push maybe less,it got to the stage where when I turned up I was that confident of catching and the same for the river had a fair few carp out of the itchen all through learning the water.
The 2 acre Brackens Pool on Nazeing was like that, I had a few blanks, but ended up being pretty sure that I would catch. The larger lagoons were a lot harder in terms of getting onto the fish, more finding them, or where they would turn up. I really wanted a couple of particular fish from the South and Central before I moved onto the North but sadly work hours meant I couldn't justify the 75mile trip every week.
little pool up by the itchen and fished the pool loads of times but it took me quite a few sessions to get my head round how hard the water was considering you could walk round it in 15/20 mins at a push maybe less,it got to the stage where when I turned up I was that confident of catching and the same for the river had a fair few carp out of the itchen all through learning the water.
The 2 acre Brackens Pool on Nazeing was like that, I had a few blanks, but ended up being pretty sure that I would catch. The larger lagoons were a lot harder in terms of getting onto the fish, more finding them, or where they would turn up. I really wanted a couple of particular fish from the South and Central before I moved onto the North but sadly work hours meant I couldn't justify the 75mile trip every week.
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Seriously, that is just sad and pathetic. It's a forum where people exchange opinions and ideas and I'm grateful for his contributions.
Seriously, that is just sad and pathetic. It's a forum where people exchange opinions and ideas and I'm grateful for his contributions.
In reply to Post #27
I believe you can be in tune with a lake
I believe you can be in tune with a lake
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Saw a classic example last night of people blindly following "the new thing" without thinking of the practicality of what you're buying.
Imagine spending nearly 300 quid on nine foot rods and then realising they are totally useless when trying to chuck 120 yards on B2 *shakes head*
Nine foot rods have been marketed for boat work or for wading through jam rags at the local council estate pond. Literally one of the first videos of Dwarfs in use was a 4 year old Nash consultant creeping around some heath pond in London. Then people started to realise the rod tips were made of dry spaghetti.
I always dreamt as a kid of owning 13ft Bruce Ashbys. Funny how things change in the space of a couple of decades.
Saw a classic example last night of people blindly following "the new thing" without thinking of the practicality of what you're buying.
Imagine spending nearly 300 quid on nine foot rods and then realising they are totally useless when trying to chuck 120 yards on B2 *shakes head*
Nine foot rods have been marketed for boat work or for wading through jam rags at the local council estate pond. Literally one of the first videos of Dwarfs in use was a 4 year old Nash consultant creeping around some heath pond in London. Then people started to realise the rod tips were made of dry spaghetti.
I always dreamt as a kid of owning 13ft Bruce Ashbys. Funny how things change in the space of a couple of decades.
In reply to Post #31
Rmfho that has brightened up my afternoon.
Rmfho that has brightened up my afternoon.
In reply to Post #31
I obviously must feel the same way as I bought my first Dwarf rod
For my kid. He was about 10 at the time. The tip.broke.
I obviously must feel the same way as I bought my first Dwarf rod
For my kid. He was about 10 at the time. The tip.broke.
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