More and more fishery are Installing these Net dips and asking you to dip your net,matt,slings and probably a few other things. My question is are they needed are they effective. Or are they just put in place to be seen to be doing the right thing. For me a properly dried net, matt and sling if I'm lucky enough to catch anything is the best form of bio security going.
In reply to Post #1
Yes they're essential in my eyes,
Too many Cockwombles around who don't care enough about fish welfare.
Yes they're essential in my eyes,
Too many Cockwombles around who don't care enough about fish welfare.
In reply to Post #1
Pointless as just dipping does nothing. Nets etc should be asked for half hour min for those tanks to work
Pointless as just dipping does nothing. Nets etc should be asked for half hour min for those tanks to work
In reply to Post #3
Didn't know that,I use them but it's just minutes
Didn't know that,I use them but it's just minutes
In reply to Post #3
I was wondering that. A quick dip is doing nothing surely. Anyone no the science behind them? How long they need to be submerged to be effective?
I was wondering that. A quick dip is doing nothing surely. Anyone no the science behind them? How long they need to be submerged to be effective?
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Yes, 30mins minimum. I read it a couple of years back but can't remember the details
Yes, 30mins minimum. I read it a couple of years back but can't remember the details
Regarding bio security - its seems latex nets for carping havent seemed to taken off for some reason -
so was wondering has anyone tried treating their net / sling with something like the eco friendly Nikwax to make waterproof?
maybe the meshes arent soft enough for it, im not sure, but there must be an alternative ??
so was wondering has anyone tried treating their net / sling with something like the eco friendly Nikwax to make waterproof?
maybe the meshes arent soft enough for it, im not sure, but there must be an alternative ??
In reply to Post #6
So net dips are really only a way of being seen to be doing " the right thing " by the sounds of it.
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So net dips are really only a way of being seen to be doing " the right thing " by the sounds of it.
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In reply to Post #8
Basically yes.
Basically yes.
Does bone dry equipment carry any risk of parasites/diseases...?
Not gear that looks dry but has been air dried for more than a week
Not gear that looks dry but has been air dried for more than a week
Some places I know of have net dips and mat dips,no one uses them.. it seems.
Personally I think they are a case of being seen to be doing something,a placebo of supposed welfare ,...I just leave mine outside for a few days in the rain,sunlight uv rays ,making sure it's bone ,bone dry ,then I put it away til next time..
I've my own opinion where angling is heading..
Personally I think they are a case of being seen to be doing something,a placebo of supposed welfare ,...I just leave mine outside for a few days in the rain,sunlight uv rays ,making sure it's bone ,bone dry ,then I put it away til next time..
I've my own opinion where angling is heading..
In reply to Post #11
Do tell
Do tell
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Agree dipping for a decent period or it's useless. I thought 15 minutes minimum but it seems logical that time also depends on the disinfectant strength.
Some of the dip tanks I've seen are poorly maintained and look like they could actually be harbouring diseases.
I've only seen one fishery that had a very strong smelling dip tank with a time limit and rinse next to it.
They have now changed advice to dry equipment in the sun.
I always wash my gear after fishing then dry outside (or open shed entrance if raining) for a few days. Sometimes a squirt of bleach and soak if I'm changing venues in winter when sun drying is harder.
Agree dipping for a decent period or it's useless. I thought 15 minutes minimum but it seems logical that time also depends on the disinfectant strength.
Some of the dip tanks I've seen are poorly maintained and look like they could actually be harbouring diseases.
I've only seen one fishery that had a very strong smelling dip tank with a time limit and rinse next to it.
They have now changed advice to dry equipment in the sun.
I always wash my gear after fishing then dry outside (or open shed entrance if raining) for a few days. Sometimes a squirt of bleach and soak if I'm changing venues in winter when sun drying is harder.
So long as the disinfectant is changed regularly, most fisheries do it once in a blue moon so pointless but if done regularly keeping the virology and bacteriology as low as possible it can be effective given a good long dip of at least fifteen minutes otherwise its a bit like washing your clean white bed sheets in a septic tank.
In reply to Post #13
Always thought sun light was good
Re Jim gibbinson
Always thought sun light was good
Re Jim gibbinson
I have found that the disinfectant can cause rusting on metal components such as zips, clips etc.
In reply to Post #15
https://marinescience.blog.gov.uk/2016/07/01/khv-fishery-angler-net-equipment/
According to this it is
https://marinescience.blog.gov.uk/2016/07/01/khv-fishery-angler-net-equipment/
According to this it is
In reply to Post #17
Goverment advice dry everything thoroughly in the sun that has come in to contact with Fish. Nothing about antibacterial dips.
Could you imagine e the chaos at Linear fisheries over a bank holiday weekend. ( I dont no if they have a dipping rule in place ) If every angler coming through the gate had to dip there nets,slings and matts for a minimum of 15 minutes.
Goverment advice dry everything thoroughly in the sun that has come in to contact with Fish. Nothing about antibacterial dips.
Could you imagine e the chaos at Linear fisheries over a bank holiday weekend. ( I dont no if they have a dipping rule in place ) If every angler coming through the gate had to dip there nets,slings and matts for a minimum of 15 minutes.
In reply to Post #1
How many people would look into that tank, dip their net into it, and then dip it into their koi pond?
How many people would look into that tank, dip their net into it, and then dip it into their koi pond?
2 lakes I fish don't accept just a quick dip 1 lake you have to leave them in for a minimum of 15mins the other 1 you have to do it for 30mins, they basically say put them in (watched by cctv to check u done it and get banned if not) then go setup your bivvy and gear then come back to get them before you cast out. They both rightly say a quick dip is completely pointless.
Another way around it is like the 2 syndicates I'm on they supple all nets, slings and mats they even supply water buckets very well run places
Another way around it is like the 2 syndicates I'm on they supple all nets, slings and mats they even supply water buckets very well run places
This is taken from the Hydra Quat site: Benzalkonium Chloride Disinfectant effective against Koi Herpes Virus (KHV). I don't think you could advertise that if not?
Come the colder weather and I don't think many people will be using a dry net
A lake I used to fish got KHV, decimated it for quite a few years so be warned!
There is still plenty of **** fish around, especially where matchmen go, hauling ****ters. If it makes 1% difference I would use it. When I have I just leave the net in the bag until i have everything out and fishing. If the sun is burning through just dry it straight off.
To be fair it does surprise me the number of busy waters that don't do a thing, they will after their stocks get it though!
I know a well managed popular day ticket and they provide mats, slings and nets. 10/10 for me
Come the colder weather and I don't think many people will be using a dry net
A lake I used to fish got KHV, decimated it for quite a few years so be warned!
There is still plenty of **** fish around, especially where matchmen go, hauling ****ters. If it makes 1% difference I would use it. When I have I just leave the net in the bag until i have everything out and fishing. If the sun is burning through just dry it straight off.
To be fair it does surprise me the number of busy waters that don't do a thing, they will after their stocks get it though!
I know a well managed popular day ticket and they provide mats, slings and nets. 10/10 for me
Before all Nets and combination Mats/Weigh Slings were provided on each site, I used to provide Pressure Sprayers on site with full strength Tamodine E - so you sprayed your gear every time with “Fresh” disinfectant.
But bone idle laziness prevailed as usual. I would add a few drops of Liquorice flavour in the mix - so you could smell who was actually bothering to disinfect their gear (Not many I might add!)
But bone idle laziness prevailed as usual. I would add a few drops of Liquorice flavour in the mix - so you could smell who was actually bothering to disinfect their gear (Not many I might add!)
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But bone idle laziness prevailed as usual
Seen it many times
Sounds like you have a plan in place Keith
But bone idle laziness prevailed as usual
Seen it many times
Sounds like you have a plan in place Keith
Are venues with dip tanks stopping deases coming in or going out?
I decided right from the get go that I wasn't prepared to trust anglers to use dip tanks properly and decided to supply the nets, slings, cradles and water buckets.
For my personal fishing I have three sets of arms and meshes for my Dymag nets, plus another spare and keep each set for specific venues. If I were going somewhere for the first time I'd thoroughly disinfect one of the meshes beforehand.
For my personal fishing I have three sets of arms and meshes for my Dymag nets, plus another spare and keep each set for specific venues. If I were going somewhere for the first time I'd thoroughly disinfect one of the meshes beforehand.
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