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MK was right :) (33 posts / 4,005 views)
2ndChance 2ndChance
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Post #1 1 May 2022 14:43
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BAIT is a 4letter word that brings out the nastiness in folks Why is that


You either fall into one of the following categories :-

- Don´t know f`all about bait and want to learn
- Know enough to get the gist of it, but want to delve in deeper
- Take it to the next level, produce your own, but still seek guidance
- Doyen who´s been there & done that, BUT won´t spill the beans
- Doyen who´s been there & done that, AND WILL GLADLY spill the beans

Why does a simple discussion about bait, cause such upheaval at times, causing folks to fall out, bigtime Everyone´s entitled to a different opinion, so why is it so difficult to respectfully agree to disagree, and contribute either limited or extensive advice, to those that are genuinely interested in bait and seek help Is this brash demeanor predominantly "carp bait related", or widespread within all genres of angling ?

PS: Mark Mckenna and not MK(Mck)
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #2 1 May 2022 14:59
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Don't know f all about bait and I'm a nod
The-Heff The-Heff
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Post #3 1 May 2022 14:59
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Reflective of modern society really isnt it. “You are entitled to your own opinion, as long as its the same as mine, if not youre clearly (insert whatever it is this apparently makes you)”
mark1009
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Post #4 1 May 2022 15:16
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That's right humans are tribal by nature and once part of a tribe it takes a lot to get them to switch to another tribe. Politics is the same and gettingt worse. Social ( or anti social) media reinforces this tribalism and confirmation bias is reinforced when all your media input comes from the same slanted viewpoint.
JohnnyEnglish JohnnyEnglish
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Post #5 1 May 2022 15:19
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At the present state of our knowledge, bait is an inexact science. Unlike tackle.

If you wanted to know the best rod, reel, line or hook for a specific purpose, it would be relatively easy to find out the best option on the market or a small number of options. And few people would get into a fight over it.

Bait is different. Until someone is able to determine exactly what it is that the carp would most like to eat on any particular day of the year, this subject is wide open to doubt, guesswork and squabbling.


The-Heff The-Heff
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Post #6 1 May 2022 15:34
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Also, who is MK?
Ynnek
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Post #7 1 May 2022 16:01
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I don't know how it's over there but in Belgium people can get very jealous and be nasty when some other is catching more/bigger carp.
On the public venues, some claim pegs and dump a mass of baits on it when you're fishing their peg.

For me, it's all a hobby (carp fishing and bait making).
I've got some thoughts and ideas that don't match with others but that's the beauty of it. Everyone is entitle to his own opinion.

People communicating on a respectful manner impact my thougtproces more than others. A respectful discussion/exchange of experiences is more fruitful than calling names!
2ndChance 2ndChance
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Post #8 1 May 2022 16:18
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Supposed to be Mck or Mark Mckenna

It´s a f**king boilie for carp to eat, ffs Why so much aggro .. low testosterone levels or too much Stella ? Resentment and self pity are anger misdirected, in ways that are not helpful & often harmful. Gotta have thick skin or ear plugs
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #9 1 May 2022 16:25
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The more I learn the more I realise I don't know,
2ndChance 2ndChance
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Post #10 1 May 2022 16:38
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I´ve suddenly stopped learning, but not by choice
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #11 1 May 2022 17:03
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That's the amino acids kicking in,
The-Heff The-Heff
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Post #12 1 May 2022 17:07
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Who is mark mckenna?
bluebeat13
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Post #13 1 May 2022 17:16
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Money.
2ndChance 2ndChance
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Post #14 1 May 2022 18:22
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Mark had some pretty good baits when he ran Baitcraft, awhile ago, but wonder why he decided to throw in the towel to become a PT
scozza
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Post #15 1 May 2022 19:03
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Why does a simple discussion about bait, cause such upheaval at times, causing folks to fall out, bigtime

Bait is many things to different people, as you mention in your bullets, to some they are just round balls that cost a £5 KG (seen as idiots by baits buffs) to others it's a way of life, a passion (see as ********s by idiots because they think they know it all). When you spend so much time at this, convince yourself backed up by your results, it's probably hard to convince some people any different and that's understandable for me

Different world now and a lot is on the table for everybody to see, however, a lot of the old school anglers know their stuff and believe in it, your try and tell them anything else

And then there are those people who fund their livelihood from it, that's very personal, think about it £
framey framey
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Post #16 2 May 2022 16:18
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I can think of lots of other categories lol
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #17 2 May 2022 16:23
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it certainly brings out the worst in people

keeps us mods busy though
2ndChance 2ndChance
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Post #18 2 May 2022 17:06
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Before i caught the bug, i always thought that the carping fraternity was a tight group of passionate anglers, willing to divulge most of their edges, at the drop of a hat. Oh boy was i wrong What happened to common sense & etiquette amongst the youth
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #19 2 May 2022 17:09
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as most will of noticed, i find the WHOLE Bait threads rather sad, spoilt by idiots mainly
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #20 2 May 2022 23:47
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You love us really 🤣
2ndChance 2ndChance
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Post #21 3 May 2022 01:13
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Time to start issuing out punishment ... 5000 lines, " I must not hold a grudge for more than 2weeks "
cfc4life cfc4life
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Post #22 3 May 2022 07:31
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So why not do something about the idiots then rather than locking threads, you know who they are, same names almost every time
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #23 3 May 2022 20:34
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ive never locked a thread

those names are being dealt with, but one has to give said "idiot" a chance to mend ones way
chanmenie
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Post #24 3 May 2022 21:13
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Or give the idiots enough rope and they will hang themselves.
slash slash
MODERATORMOD
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Post #25 4 May 2022 17:16
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Zero tolerance from me now. ...I'm watching like a hawk.
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #26 4 May 2022 17:20
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Amen
riddler riddler
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Post #27 4 May 2022 21:38
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Pretty sure there was a thread or two on his downfall on here
And how people were let down by him
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #28 5 May 2022 02:39
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So you AREN'T taking me up on the border plant beds offer?
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #29 5 May 2022 07:21
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i'll be honest, i try my best to ignore you as i've normally not got a clue what your on about
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #30 5 May 2022 07:23
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Sealine
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Post #31 5 May 2022 08:16
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Who is MK the author says he is referring to Mark Mckenna.

Mark I believe had a couple of in depth articles published in Carp World from which he gained a following and a bait company.
This was very successful and sold a lot of very good bait .

ip100 ip100
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Post #32 5 May 2022 08:46
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And then a lot of very poor bait......
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #33 5 May 2022 09:04
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To be fair to Mark he didn't gain a bait company off the back of a few articles in carp world. T1 was taking a lot of The Valley waters apart years before those articles.
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