Plenty of info on here i know but....it's the sinking properties I am interested in. does the CM90 sink quickly and does it then stay down?
In reply to Post #1
yes - not like pure flouro - but if you keep feeding slack and there is no big tow, you will feel like u are peeling it off the bottom when picking up the rod.
yes - not like pure flouro - but if you keep feeding slack and there is no big tow, you will feel like u are peeling it off the bottom when picking up the rod.
In reply to Post #2
Agree with Adam, loved using it and found it very supple but it's not the best casting line as it is slightly heavier than lines of same diameter which is why it sinks so well, unfortunately my shop no longer stocks it.
Agree with Adam, loved using it and found it very supple but it's not the best casting line as it is slightly heavier than lines of same diameter which is why it sinks so well, unfortunately my shop no longer stocks it.
In reply to Post #3
Best line I've ever used stop using because of the colour in the end- why that green??? It sinks very well 👌
Best line I've ever used stop using because of the colour in the end- why that green??? It sinks very well 👌
In reply to Post #4
For me also till i got Korda touchdown, i rate it higher then the CM90
For me also till i got Korda touchdown, i rate it higher then the CM90
In reply to Post #1
I've just switched to this line after hearing great things. Only done the one session on it but been impressed so far. Casts and sinks well.
I've just switched to this line after hearing great things. Only done the one session on it but been impressed so far. Casts and sinks well.
In reply to Post #5
CM90 here also, its the best around line I have used upto date but I'd love a colour option.
@zinno, have havnt tried Korda touchdown, it what way do you find it better?
CM90 here also, its the best around line I have used upto date but I'd love a colour option.
@zinno, have havnt tried Korda touchdown, it what way do you find it better?
In reply to Post #1
It's tough as nails as well, I use it on the tidal Trent and very rarely have to strip line off due to damage - I tried Korda Subline last season as I couldn't get CM90, I took it off after 1 session. 0.40 for 15lb so thick diameter, yet it was shredded constantly and I had to cut lengths of line of several times in one session.
I'm still using the CM90 now, just reversed the line on the spools from last season and hopefully can pick up some more 15lb at some stage.
It's tough as nails as well, I use it on the tidal Trent and very rarely have to strip line off due to damage - I tried Korda Subline last season as I couldn't get CM90, I took it off after 1 session. 0.40 for 15lb so thick diameter, yet it was shredded constantly and I had to cut lengths of line of several times in one session.
I'm still using the CM90 now, just reversed the line on the spools from last season and hopefully can pick up some more 15lb at some stage.
In reply to Post #1
DP.
DP.
In reply to Post #7
They are going to release a different colour
They are going to release a different colour
In reply to Post #10
Is it flouro yellow.
Is it flouro yellow.
In reply to Post #11
No thats just your piss
its going to be clear
No thats just your piss
its going to be clear
In reply to Post #7
It has all the good features that Cm90 also has, but is less stiff and casts a little better in my experience.
After years of using Shimano Technium the CM90 was a blessing it's a damn good line but the Korde has just that little bit more and damn strong on the knot
It has all the good features that Cm90 also has, but is less stiff and casts a little better in my experience.
After years of using Shimano Technium the CM90 was a blessing it's a damn good line but the Korde has just that little bit more and damn strong on the knot
In reply to Post #12
Whens it coming out sounds good!!!
Whens it coming out sounds good!!!
In reply to Post #14
Not sure
Not sure
In reply to Post #8
Johnson Ross have it in stock if thats any help to you?
Johnson Ross have it in stock if thats any help to you?
In reply to Post #12
Hopefully it's better than when sensor was made in clear, that clear line was pretty crap
Hopefully it's better than when sensor was made in clear, that clear line was pretty crap
In reply to Post #13
Cm90 is awesome stuff in any BS
Total reliability and little twist compared to everything else I have used to date
10/10 for me.
Cm90 is awesome stuff in any BS
Total reliability and little twist compared to everything else I have used to date
10/10 for me.
What BS would you recommend CM90 in for casting up to about 100 yards?
I want the properties of this type of the line but still need to be able to cast a decent distance, thanks
I want the properties of this type of the line but still need to be able to cast a decent distance, thanks
In reply to Post #19
The 15lb is strong as hell but it'll easily go 100 yards. I reckon I could hit the moon with 12lb. Lovely stuff. Got 7 reels with different strains on.
The 15lb is strong as hell but it'll easily go 100 yards. I reckon I could hit the moon with 12lb. Lovely stuff. Got 7 reels with different strains on.
In reply to Post #20
Is that going from the breaking strain marked in KG or the "diameter of" marked in lbs?
Is that going from the breaking strain marked in KG or the "diameter of" marked in lbs?
In reply to Post #20
Agree even the 20lb will easily do 100+ but it's all reative to rod and angler, the thicker stuff sinks and stays put better but that's only my opinion.
Agree even the 20lb will easily do 100+ but it's all reative to rod and angler, the thicker stuff sinks and stays put better but that's only my opinion.
In reply to Post #21
Going from the fact that I nearly pulled an island in Wednesday.
Going from the fact that I nearly pulled an island in Wednesday.
In reply to Post #23
Haha I mean the breaking strains you mention, is that the actual strains or just the diameter of?
Example, the diameter of 12lb line is something like 9.5kg breaking strain about 21lb!
Haha I mean the breaking strains you mention, is that the actual strains or just the diameter of?
Example, the diameter of 12lb line is something like 9.5kg breaking strain about 21lb!
In reply to Post #19
personally id go 15lb.
On most of the waters I have fished 100yards is further than a lot think they are casting.
The 15lb will give you scope for hitting your distance when there are heavy winds. Especially cross winds when you may need to add another wrap or two on to combat the bow.
personally id go 15lb.
On most of the waters I have fished 100yards is further than a lot think they are casting.
The 15lb will give you scope for hitting your distance when there are heavy winds. Especially cross winds when you may need to add another wrap or two on to combat the bow.
In reply to Post #24
Just the strain that was written on the spool.
Just the strain that was written on the spool.
In reply to Post #26
Tackle Box line test had the diameter and breaking strain as prity accurate to what's on the spool.
Tackle Box line test had the diameter and breaking strain as prity accurate to what's on the spool.
In reply to Post #24
I think i see where there is some confusion the berkley site is showing different ratings to what most of us have bought.
The two cm90 spools i have used have been labelled 12lb and 0.34mm diameter and 15lb 0.38mm diameter and this is what most uk shops have sold, so looking at the berkley site the 15lb line most of us are talking about might be the 11kg/24lb version.
The 15lb 0.38mm dia line is very good sinks very well and will cast 100yds with my 3 1/4 rods and possibly a bit further
I think i see where there is some confusion the berkley site is showing different ratings to what most of us have bought.
The two cm90 spools i have used have been labelled 12lb and 0.34mm diameter and 15lb 0.38mm diameter and this is what most uk shops have sold, so looking at the berkley site the 15lb line most of us are talking about might be the 11kg/24lb version.
The 15lb 0.38mm dia line is very good sinks very well and will cast 100yds with my 3 1/4 rods and possibly a bit further
In reply to Post #28
That's the one.
I've mentioned it on here before for berkley, if you look at the spool it is marked as diameter of for the lb breaking strain and the supposed actual strain is in kg
This would go some way to why "12lb" line seems so strong, as it is actually 21lb rated
That's the one.
I've mentioned it on here before for berkley, if you look at the spool it is marked as diameter of for the lb breaking strain and the supposed actual strain is in kg
This would go some way to why "12lb" line seems so strong, as it is actually 21lb rated
In reply to Post #29
Berkley is American and have different specs for home market and Europe.
Berkley is American and have different specs for home market and Europe.
In reply to Post #30
Just compared cm90 breaking strain and dia to other lines and it looks like the 12lbs cm90 0.34mm is more in line with a standard rated 15lbs line.
Bought some cm90 "15lbs" today of ebay might change it for 12lbs
Just compared cm90 breaking strain and dia to other lines and it looks like the 12lbs cm90 0.34mm is more in line with a standard rated 15lbs line.
Bought some cm90 "15lbs" today of ebay might change it for 12lbs
In reply to Post #31
Wouldn't bother, the 15 will sink a little better and be that bit tougher, why bother.
Wouldn't bother, the 15 will sink a little better and be that bit tougher, why bother.
In reply to Post #32
Bought the line to go on some shimano ultegra ci4 5500 xtc reels for my scope 10 footers. Figured smaller dia would be plenty strong, sit better on the smaller spool and help with casting on the 10 footers bit better then the thicker 0.38mm line.
Wouldn't mind the thicker line on my basiairs but seems ott on the travel setup lol
Bought the line to go on some shimano ultegra ci4 5500 xtc reels for my scope 10 footers. Figured smaller dia would be plenty strong, sit better on the smaller spool and help with casting on the 10 footers bit better then the thicker 0.38mm line.
Wouldn't mind the thicker line on my basiairs but seems ott on the travel setup lol
In reply to Post #33
Got gs4000 on my 10ft scopes but they are 2.25tc, my ultegra ci4 550 have 15lb mono and 30lb braid.
Got gs4000 on my 10ft scopes but they are 2.25tc, my ultegra ci4 550 have 15lb mono and 30lb braid.
In reply to Post #34
Is that cm90 15lb mono? Only asking as berkley stuff quite a bit thicker then standard 15lbs rated line
Is that cm90 15lb mono? Only asking as berkley stuff quite a bit thicker then standard 15lbs rated line
In reply to Post #35
Yes. Tackle box test says. 33 for 12lb and 0.35 for the 15lb
Yes. Tackle box test says. 33 for 12lb and 0.35 for the 15lb
In reply to Post #36
Cheers pal will let leave it as it is then and see how it goes
Cheers pal will let leave it as it is then and see how it goes
In reply to Post #36
Batches may vary but i have had 3 spools of 15lb cm90 and 2 spools of 12lb cm90 the 15's all measured 0.38 and the 12lb measured 0.34mm. Thats with a calibrated micrometer
Batches may vary but i have had 3 spools of 15lb cm90 and 2 spools of 12lb cm90 the 15's all measured 0.38 and the 12lb measured 0.34mm. Thats with a calibrated micrometer
In reply to Post #35
The TB line tests aren't the be all and end all, but it's always interesting to note that the vast majority of monos break around the same strain for the same diameter. (There are some exceptions)
Most 12lb rated 0.33-0.34 lines break around 15lb, and most 15lb rated 0.38 lines break at 19-20lb.
Most low diameter 15lb lines break around 15lb, so what does that tell you...that it's basically the same as most 12lb lines.
PB control is marketed as 24lb 0.35, but on the TB tests it breaks at 16lb....
The TB line tests aren't the be all and end all, but it's always interesting to note that the vast majority of monos break around the same strain for the same diameter. (There are some exceptions)
Most 12lb rated 0.33-0.34 lines break around 15lb, and most 15lb rated 0.38 lines break at 19-20lb.
Most low diameter 15lb lines break around 15lb, so what does that tell you...that it's basically the same as most 12lb lines.
PB control is marketed as 24lb 0.35, but on the TB tests it breaks at 16lb....
In reply to Post #39
Yes i agree with you on this , there is some variance as lines do take different knots better than others.
I always cringe when i hear people raving about pb control being 18lb line at 0.3mm diameter, i used the 0.35mm 24lb pb control when it came out and it is a good casting line but the best knot strengths i could get were around the 17lb mark
Yes i agree with you on this , there is some variance as lines do take different knots better than others.
I always cringe when i hear people raving about pb control being 18lb line at 0.3mm diameter, i used the 0.35mm 24lb pb control when it came out and it is a good casting line but the best knot strengths i could get were around the 17lb mark
In reply to Post #19
I bought both 10lb and 15lb CM90 line, as I wanted the option for a lighter line to aid casting and to make life more fun as well as a heavier line for when it's needed/the fishery requires it. However so far ive only fished waters that have a 15lb limit and have found I can easily cast past 100 yards (with a 9ft rod), so wondering why I bothered with the 10lb at all!
I bought both 10lb and 15lb CM90 line, as I wanted the option for a lighter line to aid casting and to make life more fun as well as a heavier line for when it's needed/the fishery requires it. However so far ive only fished waters that have a 15lb limit and have found I can easily cast past 100 yards (with a 9ft rod), so wondering why I bothered with the 10lb at all!
In reply to Post #41
As anyone used Cm90 line on a silty water or would you recommend to steer clear
As anyone used Cm90 line on a silty water or would you recommend to steer clear
In reply to Post #42
I have used it on various waters with no issues, the only doubt i have had with it in clear water is how visible it might be but it sinks so well that hasn't bothered me, on a silty venue the chances are the water clarity wont be that good so i would worry less about visibility issues.
I have used it on various waters with no issues, the only doubt i have had with it in clear water is how visible it might be but it sinks so well that hasn't bothered me, on a silty venue the chances are the water clarity wont be that good so i would worry less about visibility issues.
In reply to Post #43
Does it make any difference if its visible or not? Even assuming a carp can see as well as a human then surely it would be less spooked by it than swimming into a line it can't?
Does it make any difference if its visible or not? Even assuming a carp can see as well as a human then surely it would be less spooked by it than swimming into a line it can't?
In reply to Post #44
Not really sure if visibility makes a difference or not i remember reading the old hutchy books saying would a carp be more scared of hitting a line it couldn't see or by avoiding one it could see?
From watching most lines from bridges or boats most lines stand out midwater due to debris etc sticking to lines , imo lines that sink better and have more on the bottom near the end tackle give me more confidence
Cm90 is one of the lines that does sink well as you probably know when you wind in you can feel it lift off the bottom, although not as good as flouro
There is a train of thought that on certain venues they always know you are there fishing no matter how well concealed end tackle is, and why resting swims often works.
Not really sure if visibility makes a difference or not i remember reading the old hutchy books saying would a carp be more scared of hitting a line it couldn't see or by avoiding one it could see?
From watching most lines from bridges or boats most lines stand out midwater due to debris etc sticking to lines , imo lines that sink better and have more on the bottom near the end tackle give me more confidence
Cm90 is one of the lines that does sink well as you probably know when you wind in you can feel it lift off the bottom, although not as good as flouro
There is a train of thought that on certain venues they always know you are there fishing no matter how well concealed end tackle is, and why resting swims often works.
In reply to Post #45
I'm not convinced concealment is as important as the tackle manufacturers would like us to believe but still use end tackle that blends in with the lake bed, maybe brainwashed over the years. It's kind of ironic that some go to great lengths to conceal the end tackle then stick an over flavoured bright flouro pop up on the end.
I'm not convinced concealment is as important as the tackle manufacturers would like us to believe but still use end tackle that blends in with the lake bed, maybe brainwashed over the years. It's kind of ironic that some go to great lengths to conceal the end tackle then stick an over flavoured bright flouro pop up on the end.
In reply to Post #45
If carp are so scared of line that they immediately leave the vicinity when they detect it. Why do people " fish for liners"?
If carp are so scared of line that they immediately leave the vicinity when they detect it. Why do people " fish for liners"?
In reply to Post #46
I think its a subject without a definitive answer we can just use what we are more confident with.
Mark also makes a good point about liners
I think its a subject without a definitive answer we can just use what we are more confident with.
Mark also makes a good point about liners
In reply to Post #47
Fishing for liners
That's the kind of BS that someone like Adam Penning would feel smart saying. If only fishing for liners why put a rig on? If there is a hook and bait then we are fishing for fish!
Fishing for liners
That's the kind of BS that someone like Adam Penning would feel smart saying. If only fishing for liners why put a rig on? If there is a hook and bait then we are fishing for fish!
Looking at all those underwater videos I don't think fish cares much about a visible main line
In reply to Post #50
Big eye opener for me was the fact they used tubing, theoretically much more visible than a translucent line but the fish didn't seem to spook at all and these are some of the most pressured fish in the country.
Big eye opener for me was the fact they used tubing, theoretically much more visible than a translucent line but the fish didn't seem to spook at all and these are some of the most pressured fish in the country.
In reply to Post #51
What way do you put the line on
What way do you put the line on
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