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wandle1 wandle1
Posts: 7,469
Post #1 15 Mar 2022 17:22
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That's right Saputo ,ie Dairy crest Davidstow on Davidstow Moor have polluted the beautiful river Inny in North Cornwall

This is a Canadian owned company, with direct links to deforestation in South America..

They look like they have done it again today ..

I now refuse to eat or purchase any of the products associated with Saputo including Catherdral City cheese..

I hope you will all do the same ...

River rapists...!
Goose Goose
Posts: 12,901
Post #2 15 Mar 2022 17:26
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In reply to Post #1
Don't forget Country Life Butter, Utterly Butterly, Vitalite and Clover.
AndersonPol
Posts: 88
Post #3 15 Mar 2022 17:29
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I'm with you on that mate. A pitiful fine to ensue I guess.
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #4 15 Mar 2022 17:30
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Thank you Goose...

As Goose said...don't purchase these products ..


I seen it ,this morning with my wife,disgusting horrible ..ruined that little river yet again...

Words fail me ...ecosystem destruction right there.



Saputo,say all the right environment buzz words...but they are ruining a lovely little river,and its ecosystems..

duggs
Posts: 5,559
Post #5 15 Mar 2022 19:26
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If only I could boycott Thames water
cornish-carper cornish-carper
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Post #6 15 Mar 2022 19:32
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Can you not report them to the ea?
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #7 15 Mar 2022 19:34
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Already done it mate..

Very helpful the E/A were as well..👍


cornish-carper cornish-carper
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Post #8 15 Mar 2022 19:35
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Good on you 👍
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #9 15 Mar 2022 19:39
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Should have seen it Barry,shocking, my missus noticed it first ..


Hope they get the book thrown at em,Saputo..they just do what they want..
Goose Goose
Posts: 12,901
Post #10 15 Mar 2022 21:12
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Blame the billionaire developers and council cronies, the developers all over the south have been at a staggering rate and not putting in the inferstructure to support the domestic development and councils have allowed it when these developers should have been paying towards the inferstructure required. The water companies are just as bad paying huge devidends to wealthy share holders that should have been spent updating and expanding treatment plant to meet future needs.
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #11 15 Mar 2022 21:40
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Y'know Goose your so right ,what is the legacy for those that follow us in this very corrupt country..?

Concrete...,lies....medical procedures that are untested ,I digress..


People think money is the panacea to godliness and self worth ,a flashy ,house,car etc...

How wrong they are..!
Hitman Hitman
Posts: 9,171
Post #12 15 Mar 2022 22:05
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With you on this duggs
Just had this years bill in and it's shot up
mark1009
Posts: 4,738
Post #13 16 Mar 2022 02:08
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I'll give up the utterly butterly, which is the only one I use. However I think we're pissing in the wind and pointing in the wrong direction. Surely there must be legal ways to attack this problem.
snapper1 snapper1
Posts: 3,101
Post #14 16 Mar 2022 06:51
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Won't buy the utterly and cathedral now, cheers
alpha-male
Posts: 199
Post #15 16 Mar 2022 08:17
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I'm sure this billionaire will be spinning in his 4 poster bed wondering how he's going to make ends meet.

Sadly, you will never stop these guys, capitalism will always trump ethics and morals.
carpstar40 carpstar40
Posts: 3,706
Post #16 16 Mar 2022 08:45
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Can we add poultry to the list of products to boycott as the effluence from the 100no + farms around the river Wye catchment has been devastating the Wye for years its in a sorry state the increase in algae is killing most of the flora and fauna all the rununculus has gone the bottom is covered in an oxygen sapping brown sludge.

LINK
Goose Goose
Posts: 12,901
Post #17 16 Mar 2022 08:50
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Agree, morals seem to only be instilled into the working man. The legal route is as corrupt as the developers and councils that support them, hardly surprising when our council tax money is invested in the development companies.
Goose Goose
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Post #18 16 Mar 2022 08:56
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Used to be a regular visitor to the wye fifteen years ago and have been back a couple of years ago and it's decline is obvious, never knew what the cause was and had assumed otters were responsible for the decline in barbel as it was a prolific place for barbel and chub.
carpstar40 carpstar40
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Post #19 16 Mar 2022 09:11
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Its always the Billion dollar/pound industries that seem to just get away with it when the causes of pollution are found and taken to court then a poultry fine in comparison to the devastation caused is then levied on the companies.

MARKerz
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Post #20 16 Mar 2022 09:45
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Such a shame but unfortunately this is a countrywide issue and unless there are many who use, see, visit these rivers, canals then the majority don't know or hear about it.

Writing open letters to the companies, online or in local newspapers [ if they exist ] lobbying local / national MP's is a start as is contact with the EA.

I know many say what's the point but it's a start and will be logged.
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #21 16 Mar 2022 10:59
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There always has to be a starting point..from that point anything is possible..

These issues need to be put out there ,there are lots of subtle ways to do that ..I'm starting with my local schools,you see ,kids today are force fed environmental issues..

This is a local issue,as well,plus many parents will work up that plant..

Those who suggest a waste of time,I get you ,but I won't go quietly into the night...I didn't with another issue,until I got everyone talking about it,and things were done..countrywide..!

Start making noises,talk to everybody that will listen ,don't shut up ,drop it into every conversation you can..its a starting point if you really love your environment and the ecosystems..

Do your research,find out as much as you can...then keep talking ,writing,...etc it's not hard to make people aware..

No multi corporation wants bad publicity

Saputo has links to de forestation in South America, but their environmental lies suggest other..

All depends how much you care..
alpha-male
Posts: 199
Post #22 16 Mar 2022 11:29
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Have you written to your local MP? Thats where I would begin, and pursue it from there. The bigger they are the harder you need to hit.
wandle1 wandle1
Posts: 7,469
Post #23 16 Mar 2022 11:33
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Not yet,...my local mp is Scott Mann,a one time local postman and alleged carp and sea angler..

I will do that actually ,easy to do....


It only takes one person to bring things out into discussion...
midlandman midlandman
Posts: 3,480
Post #24 16 Mar 2022 13:37
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I will not touch their products again.
IcantCatchCarp
Posts: 515
Post #25 16 Mar 2022 13:49
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Gonna take more than a few anglers not buying cheese to affect them.. bit of a joke even saying boycot them on here how much is that gonna cost them???
wandle1 wandle1
Posts: 7,469
Post #26 16 Mar 2022 14:32
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No,sorry ...you've misunderstood..from little acorns does big trees grow..!!

There has to to be a starting point,it's not about how many carp anglers stopping buying Utterly butterly or whatever,it's the big picture..

It is about communication, getting the issue out there,making people aware of so called small.issues,taking it on board and acting upon it.

Today I have been busy ,. would you be interested in helping ,rather than not ?,you have a voice,like I do,like lots of others ...pollution is wrong ,it destroys the environment for future and present generations..

I don't want to live my life ,a total lie..at least I'm going to try..

And believe me ,I know from personal experience, just one person can make a difference...do some research ,and come and help your fellow anglers and countrymen.
Cam Cam
MODERATORMOD
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Post #27 16 Mar 2022 14:43
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Just a simple question from me.

How have they polluted said river?

Don't know the area (although have been to Tintagel) but looking on google maps the river doesn't run past the factory, is that correct?
Are you saying there is a pipe or something that discharges into the river?
They have done this 21 times?
wandle1 wandle1
Posts: 7,469
Post #28 16 Mar 2022 14:50
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Yes to all your questions,it's a automated system now ,pipes etc,

The factory is above the lower ,rills and starting points,of the river..an outfall..

The pollution is toxic sludge,evident on the bed of the river,waste produce from the factory itself..



Cam,just Google river Inny pollution.,saputo dairycrest ,lots of info.plus them admitting it as well,now it seems its happened again..
Mozzi Mozzi
Posts: 1,900
Post #29 17 Mar 2022 03:37
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Bit of a joke is only using the forum to put people down and not offer helpful advice.

I for one am grateful for Wandle bringing it to my attention, as where possible, I like to be informed and shop with a conscience. it might not effect a multi million pound company but its legitimate information, and some of us, where we can, like to practice collective social responsibility. especially when it comes to our ecosystems. enough cannot be done.

Keep posting Wandle
scozza
Posts: 18,421
Post #30 17 Mar 2022 20:02
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Good to see the change in mindests for me. Our environment is EVERYTHING. long live the revolution, plastic, dumping and all, we don't want it
wandle1 wandle1
Posts: 7,469
Post #31 18 Mar 2022 11:20
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Hi one and all
.
An update,I have been both in contact with the E/A and fish legal who are investigating at this moment..they are more than aware now of the issue..

I have also written to my local rags to inform others of the situation,and my village magazine ,which gets distributed all over the UK and World due to the amount of Cousin Jack's abroad..!...many people locally who work there, will be embarrassed..,like I said,from little acorns...!

I believe the Saputo Owned Dairy crest site on Davidstow Moor is to go to court in May of this year..

In certain areas there is a brown toxic sludge evident,lamping ot night reveals NO minnows,I had minnows on one stretch last week..there is no sprainting on any stones,and the sheep won't drink from the river,nor are there any deer tracks ,or prints from the other 'party'..ie animals are not silly ,they know not to drink from a polluted source...

Thanks also to others who have shown support..
Baitman Baitman
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Post #32 18 Mar 2022 13:33
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Have you been in touch with Ray Walton about this.
He is very active across many Facebook groups gathering information and raising awareness of pollution and water quality issues.
The guy deserves a knighthood.

https://www.facebook.com/ray.walton.54
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #33 18 Mar 2022 13:47
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I didn't know that ,very good info cheers
Justin_Time Justin_Time
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Post #34 18 Mar 2022 16:08
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I had the casting vote on which advert Simon Oliver ran for the first Cathedral City advert before he sold the cheese to St Ivel for 7.5m. 'For those who know their chedder'.
Justin_Time Justin_Time
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Post #35 18 Mar 2022 16:41
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Sorry, completely off track. Pollutinons bad m'kay.
scozza
Posts: 18,421
Post #36 18 Mar 2022 18:08
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Good man

Goose Goose
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Post #37 18 Mar 2022 21:15
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What really annoys me about things like this, thousands of country houses, pubs, resteraunts, hotels etc have there own sewage treatment plants and pumping stations which discharge to soakaway, streams, rivers ect. These are serviced to schedules and regular discharge samples taken for analysis so how are these big companies getting away with it and only receiving relatively small fine in comparison to the small businesses? Maybe the directors and senior management should also receive big fines as well.
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