I'm sure this has been asked before but I just can't seem to find any relevant threads. Looking for a new stove (possibly two as my son will probably need one too). Previously I had a Coleman sportster 2 until everything got nicked and I really liked it alot. Seen lots of criticism that it flames too much when first lit but after watching a number of videos on some of the newer multi-fuel stoves, I don't remember my Coleman being any worse than these. I'm a bit shocked that the Coleman is now 4 times what I originally paid all them years ago too.
I know nothing about gas stoves apart from that they are harder to start in winter/colder months and not liking the idea of carrying a number of spare cannisters so again would probably prefer another liquid fuel stove. We all have an opinion so if anyone can recommend a decent (preferably liquid fuel) stove with reasons for why (perhaps you use it and have done for years) with any possible negatives if you have any that would be great.
Hopefully this thread won't become a thread of numerous arguments either, so please try to be respectful to each other no matter how much you may disagree with a post.
Thanks in advance.
I know nothing about gas stoves apart from that they are harder to start in winter/colder months and not liking the idea of carrying a number of spare cannisters so again would probably prefer another liquid fuel stove. We all have an opinion so if anyone can recommend a decent (preferably liquid fuel) stove with reasons for why (perhaps you use it and have done for years) with any possible negatives if you have any that would be great.
Hopefully this thread won't become a thread of numerous arguments either, so please try to be respectful to each other no matter how much you may disagree with a post.
Thanks in advance.
In reply to Post #1
If you want a liquid fuel option maybe a Coleman but run it on Aspen 4, much cleaner and better burn than unleaded petrol
If you want a liquid fuel option maybe a Coleman but run it on Aspen 4, much cleaner and better burn than unleaded petrol
In reply to Post #2
And petrol will be £500 a litre by next week
And petrol will be £500 a litre by next week
In reply to Post #2
Yeah, I will be getting the Aspen stuff. Watched a couple of videos on that. Thanks 👍
I saw that it can be used in the other multi-fuel stoves too.
Yeah, I will be getting the Aspen stuff. Watched a couple of videos on that. Thanks 👍
I saw that it can be used in the other multi-fuel stoves too.
In reply to Post #3
By tomorrow morning you mean! 🤣
By tomorrow morning you mean! 🤣
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In reply to Post #1
I love coleman stoves never any problems if you run them on Aspen 4
99% of flareups are user error not having enough pressure I have helped loads of people understand what they are doing wrong
the common thing is they pump it up to pressure then light it
AND THEN FAIL !! to realise that you then have to once its lit to pump the granny out of it to replace the pressure you just lost lighting it
hence a lolloppy big yellow flare up thru low pressure 
I hate the silly noisy multi fuel stoves utterly pointless in this country IMO after all they were designed for travelling in countries where some fuels are not available
hardly the case in the UK I bought one and sold it after lighting it and realising you needed ear defenders lol
I love coleman stoves never any problems if you run them on Aspen 4
99% of flareups are user error not having enough pressure I have helped loads of people understand what they are doing wrong
the common thing is they pump it up to pressure then light it
AND THEN FAIL !! to realise that you then have to once its lit to pump the granny out of it to replace the pressure you just lost lighting it
hence a lolloppy big yellow flare up thru low pressure I hate the silly noisy multi fuel stoves utterly pointless in this country IMO after all they were designed for travelling in countries where some fuels are not available
hardly the case in the UK I bought one and sold it after lighting it and realising you needed ear defenders lol
In reply to Post #7
I very rarely had large yellow flames. Most of the time the initial flame was no bigger than the multi-fuel stoves produce when first lit and I always used regular unleaded petrol (didn't know about Aspen fuel until last week).
The noise of the multi-fuel stoves is huge. I've seen you can get the Berniedawg silent caps but that's another £30 per stove so £60 because I need to get a stove for my son too (he's only 16).
The Coleman stoves are hard to find at a reasonable price at the moment as most sellers are out of stock and I'd rather buy new so that I'm not giving my son something that may be faulty.
I very rarely had large yellow flames. Most of the time the initial flame was no bigger than the multi-fuel stoves produce when first lit and I always used regular unleaded petrol (didn't know about Aspen fuel until last week).
The noise of the multi-fuel stoves is huge. I've seen you can get the Berniedawg silent caps but that's another £30 per stove so £60 because I need to get a stove for my son too (he's only 16).
The Coleman stoves are hard to find at a reasonable price at the moment as most sellers are out of stock and I'd rather buy new so that I'm not giving my son something that may be faulty.
2 or 4 stroke Aspen fuel guys for the Coleman, and where's the best deal available?
If you are 100% set on a liquid stove then obviously go for one. But as someone who has had a couple of sportsters and then the double burner Coleman. I can honestly say I wouldn't go back to a fuel stove since switching to gas a few years ago.
Firstly the issue of needing spare gas cans. Obviously I don't know how long your sessions are. But I only use a box of gas in a whole season. We set up a gas stove in the covered area at redmire this year for teas and coffees. I didn't use a full gas can the whole time we were there. That's tea and coffee for four days for four guys. I think you have to be doing some serious cooking to be needing spare gas cans during a session.
Regards the issue in the cold weather. Firstly make sure you buy a mixed gas, not just propane. Secondly make sure the gas stove has a pre heater tube. Thirdly if you are that worried then buy a heated cover for when the weather is extremely cold. Into the minus degrees. With a preheat tube stove you can always lay the can over and then it's burning liquid fuel anyway.
Firstly the issue of needing spare gas cans. Obviously I don't know how long your sessions are. But I only use a box of gas in a whole season. We set up a gas stove in the covered area at redmire this year for teas and coffees. I didn't use a full gas can the whole time we were there. That's tea and coffee for four days for four guys. I think you have to be doing some serious cooking to be needing spare gas cans during a session.
Regards the issue in the cold weather. Firstly make sure you buy a mixed gas, not just propane. Secondly make sure the gas stove has a pre heater tube. Thirdly if you are that worried then buy a heated cover for when the weather is extremely cold. Into the minus degrees. With a preheat tube stove you can always lay the can over and then it's burning liquid fuel anyway.
In reply to Post #9
Aspen 4 never the 2 stroke !! 2 stroke has oil in it it would smoke like a bstd I would think ?
I have a mower repair shop near me £18 per 5 liters so far far cheaper than gas and of course so superior to todays normal unleaded petrol thats full of nasties for the modern car engines for years pre unleaded normal petrol was fine but with the advent of unleaded the gennys started gumming up yea tried all the add reddex it worked for a while but now their is so much crap in unleaded it stinks and the fumes are REALLY toxic now then their is panel wipe but thats not as good as Aspen and not any cheaper unless its the crap thats been cut with another product to get the cost down
I use a Coleman double burner for my long sessions especially if Im cooking large batches of Hemp on the bank or in my back garden so much cheaper than a gas stove
having said that I have got a Gas double burner too but use that with a French propane regulator and when I get to france go to the local supermarket and buy a 15kg bottle they only charge a couple of Euro deposit so its cheap as chips and just give the bottle away to a local when I come home
Aspen 4 never the 2 stroke !! 2 stroke has oil in it it would smoke like a bstd I would think ?
I have a mower repair shop near me £18 per 5 liters so far far cheaper than gas and of course so superior to todays normal unleaded petrol thats full of nasties for the modern car engines for years pre unleaded normal petrol was fine but with the advent of unleaded the gennys started gumming up yea tried all the add reddex it worked for a while but now their is so much crap in unleaded it stinks and the fumes are REALLY toxic now then their is panel wipe but thats not as good as Aspen and not any cheaper unless its the crap thats been cut with another product to get the cost down
I use a Coleman double burner for my long sessions especially if Im cooking large batches of Hemp on the bank or in my back garden so much cheaper than a gas stove
having said that I have got a Gas double burner too but use that with a French propane regulator and when I get to france go to the local supermarket and buy a 15kg bottle they only charge a couple of Euro deposit so its cheap as chips and just give the bottle away to a local when I come home
In reply to Post #11
Whilst I am steering towards another liquid fuel stove (probably afraid of change as it's all I've known really) I'm still going to take a look at the gas one's. Trying to find a Coleman at a reasonable price is a bit difficult at the moment as when I do find one in stock, they are around £120.
I always thought that gas was going to be more compact but by the time you've got the gas cannisters, they look just as bulky, so nothing appears to be gained going gas.
The one thing that would appeal to me with something like the MSR Dragonfly would be that it may fit inside a set of pans when folded but boy are they noisy.
Whilst I am steering towards another liquid fuel stove (probably afraid of change as it's all I've known really) I'm still going to take a look at the gas one's. Trying to find a Coleman at a reasonable price is a bit difficult at the moment as when I do find one in stock, they are around £120.
I always thought that gas was going to be more compact but by the time you've got the gas cannisters, they look just as bulky, so nothing appears to be gained going gas.
The one thing that would appeal to me with something like the MSR Dragonfly would be that it may fit inside a set of pans when folded but boy are they noisy.
I used Coleman Peak1 stoves for a number of years, the first Peak1 I bought lasted ages with no problems, running it on standard unleaded with an occasional clean out with a couple of drops of Redex and fairly regular cleaning. The rings eventually wore out.
The second Peak1 was an absolute pig. I had to replace the pump or washer frequently and it would not work when switched on at times that meant I was having to take it apart on the bank to clean it out. After it sprayed me with petrol one session I binned it and went back to gas.
The other annoyance was having to take a 5litre petrol container for a weekend session!
The gas stoves I have had since then (1999 onwards), are a Web Tex Warrior, TFG Thermolite and a Bulin T4.
I have never used plain propane or butane, always a mix of the two, as most manufacturers canisters are mixed gas anyway, but there is also a winter version of iso-butane/butane and propane.
It is easier to carry a spare canister than a 5litre jerrycan...
Different canister manufacturers also seem to give different results; Coleman gas canisters seem to struggle with low pressure when nearly empty, and need tilting. CADAC and GoSystem are better.
The Bulin T4 is my current stove and is definitely my favourite, the gas is preheated so it burns well.
As has been mentioned elsewhere sometimes in winter a cold canister (especially when low) may not send out gas particularly well, warming it up in the sleeping bag overnight, between your hands or quickly heating 10mm of water in a saucepan and putting the canister in it to boil the kettle.
The second Peak1 was an absolute pig. I had to replace the pump or washer frequently and it would not work when switched on at times that meant I was having to take it apart on the bank to clean it out. After it sprayed me with petrol one session I binned it and went back to gas.
The other annoyance was having to take a 5litre petrol container for a weekend session!
The gas stoves I have had since then (1999 onwards), are a Web Tex Warrior, TFG Thermolite and a Bulin T4.
I have never used plain propane or butane, always a mix of the two, as most manufacturers canisters are mixed gas anyway, but there is also a winter version of iso-butane/butane and propane.
It is easier to carry a spare canister than a 5litre jerrycan...
Different canister manufacturers also seem to give different results; Coleman gas canisters seem to struggle with low pressure when nearly empty, and need tilting. CADAC and GoSystem are better.
The Bulin T4 is my current stove and is definitely my favourite, the gas is preheated so it burns well.
As has been mentioned elsewhere sometimes in winter a cold canister (especially when low) may not send out gas particularly well, warming it up in the sleeping bag overnight, between your hands or quickly heating 10mm of water in a saucepan and putting the canister in it to boil the kettle.
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I've seen this suggestion a couple of times regarding warming up the cannisters in warm water in the colder months. Is this something you need to do every time before use in 5he winter or only first thing in the morning and it will be fine for the rest of the day.
Also, if you're needing to warm up the cannisters in a shallow pan of warm water, where are you sourcing the warm water if your stove isn't working to heat up the water anyway (it sounds like the case of which came first, the chicken or the egg).
I've seen this suggestion a couple of times regarding warming up the cannisters in warm water in the colder months. Is this something you need to do every time before use in 5he winter or only first thing in the morning and it will be fine for the rest of the day.
Also, if you're needing to warm up the cannisters in a shallow pan of warm water, where are you sourcing the warm water if your stove isn't working to heat up the water anyway (it sounds like the case of which came first, the chicken or the egg).
In reply to Post #14
There's a Coleman sportster being sold on the classifieds for £50 by lilharbs.
My 2 cents, I've had a sportster, own an omnifuel and currently use a bulin T4, the bulin is great for the money and gas is cleaner and quieter, my only issue is the waste, I don't like the idea of each canister being one time use and when the temps drop petrol shines. I've burnt everything in my omnifuel, diesel, kerosine, petrol and gas, brilliant piece of kit and very cheap to run but little adjustability for slower cooks and an absolute racket
There's a Coleman sportster being sold on the classifieds for £50 by lilharbs.
My 2 cents, I've had a sportster, own an omnifuel and currently use a bulin T4, the bulin is great for the money and gas is cleaner and quieter, my only issue is the waste, I don't like the idea of each canister being one time use and when the temps drop petrol shines. I've burnt everything in my omnifuel, diesel, kerosine, petrol and gas, brilliant piece of kit and very cheap to run but little adjustability for slower cooks and an absolute racket
In reply to Post #15
I haven't been a forum member long enough to get access to the classifieds mate.
Regarding your Omnifuel stove, you may be able to make it quieter with a Berniedawg silent cap for about £30. The videos I've been watching on these caps makes quite a bit of a difference to the noise being emitted.
I haven't been a forum member long enough to get access to the classifieds mate.
Regarding your Omnifuel stove, you may be able to make it quieter with a Berniedawg silent cap for about £30. The videos I've been watching on these caps makes quite a bit of a difference to the noise being emitted.
In reply to Post #14
Any half decent gas stove will flame enough to make a few mm of water in a pan warm in any UK temp. Then just put the bottom of the gas can in the warm water and it will be roaring in no time.
I have a Bullin and in my opinion the pre heat tube makes a difference, I wouldn't bother with a stove without one.
Any half decent gas stove will flame enough to make a few mm of water in a pan warm in any UK temp. Then just put the bottom of the gas can in the warm water and it will be roaring in no time.
I have a Bullin and in my opinion the pre heat tube makes a difference, I wouldn't bother with a stove without one.
In reply to Post #12
if you want to go gas
then a stove that will work all year and not a lot of money is the Bulin T4 stove this has the pre heater pipe that warms the gas so it works in winter on the liquid gas if you invert the can
obviously this stove is a budget stove and wont last anywhere near the length of time a quality gas stove like the Original Primus Gravity stoves mine is 30 years old and only had to clean the jet twice in that time
if you want to go gas
then a stove that will work all year and not a lot of money is the Bulin T4 stove this has the pre heater pipe that warms the gas so it works in winter on the liquid gas if you invert the can
obviously this stove is a budget stove and wont last anywhere near the length of time a quality gas stove like the Original Primus Gravity stoves mine is 30 years old and only had to clean the jet twice in that time
In reply to Post #1
Just get yourself a Trangia set up, either in 25 or 27 size,you'll enjoy using them and the art of thorough cooking..
You can use meths or reconstructed bioethanol
I don't go fishing without mine..
Just get yourself a Trangia set up, either in 25 or 27 size,you'll enjoy using them and the art of thorough cooking..
You can use meths or reconstructed bioethanol
I don't go fishing without mine..
In reply to Post #19
I'd 2nd that
All I ever use, total reliability in all weathers.
I'd 2nd that
All I ever use, total reliability in all weathers.
Nothing beats a Trangia for reliability in all weathers and it's satisfying to use.
In reply to Post #18
I've just taken a look at the Primus Gravity 3 stove and fir £65 delivered looks a cracking bit of kit. Didn't realise that you can also get a multi-fuel kit to go with it for about £50 so I suppose you could initially buy just the stove and possibly upgrade to multi-fuel later on.
I've just taken a look at the Primus Gravity 3 stove and fir £65 delivered looks a cracking bit of kit. Didn't realise that you can also get a multi-fuel kit to go with it for about £50 so I suppose you could initially buy just the stove and possibly upgrade to multi-fuel later on.
In reply to Post #19
I have looked at them but aren't they very slow in heating up your water or grub?
I drink an awful amount of tea and coffee on the bank and just wondering if it would be worth the effort with waiting much longer for the kettle to boil for my brew. I want to be looking out for activity of fish showing rather than watching my stove longer. Perhaps I'm wrong but I thought it was about 8 to 10 minutes for the trangia to boil water.
I have looked at them but aren't they very slow in heating up your water or grub?
I drink an awful amount of tea and coffee on the bank and just wondering if it would be worth the effort with waiting much longer for the kettle to boil for my brew. I want to be looking out for activity of fish showing rather than watching my stove longer. Perhaps I'm wrong but I thought it was about 8 to 10 minutes for the trangia to boil water.
In reply to Post #23
No mate it's a bit of a misconception, I find it very quick to boil water,especially if you put in your cup what you need to boil,then that amount in the kettle,..just don't use the simmer ring for boiling,I do though myself...
They are simple ,literally bomb proof nothing to fail or break on you,worst thing you can do is forget the fuel..
I'm into stoves,from stick stoves,to Uco grills ,I'd have a trangia over ANY stove on the market..
Each to there own n all that, your missing out a bit remember Trangia is system,not a stove
Hope you find what you want.
No mate it's a bit of a misconception, I find it very quick to boil water,especially if you put in your cup what you need to boil,then that amount in the kettle,..just don't use the simmer ring for boiling,I do though myself...
They are simple ,literally bomb proof nothing to fail or break on you,worst thing you can do is forget the fuel..
I'm into stoves,from stick stoves,to Uco grills ,I'd have a trangia over ANY stove on the market..
Each to there own n all that, your missing out a bit remember Trangia is system,not a stove
Hope you find what you want.
In reply to Post #24
Sorry, just taken a look at the Trangia stuff and didn't realise you can get a system that includes a gas ring too. I also found I can get 15% off through my wife's NHS discount card so for £85 looks a great little kit without the need to get pans etc. Would my trakker kettle fit on it though?
Definitely a contender now though to be added to the others. 😁👍
Sorry, just taken a look at the Trangia stuff and didn't realise you can get a system that includes a gas ring too. I also found I can get 15% off through my wife's NHS discount card so for £85 looks a great little kit without the need to get pans etc. Would my trakker kettle fit on it though?
Definitely a contender now though to be added to the others. 😁👍
In reply to Post #14
Depends on the day. If you are waking up at 3 or 4 degrees C or less and it stays that cold all day then you might need to do it throughout the day. If it warms up to 7 degrees or more just the once.
Warm A couple of millimetres of water in the saucepan to boil a kettle or Moka pot, neither chicken nor egg, just a quick fix😉
It is normally only a problem when the canister is nearly empty as the pressure inside is lower.
As Bluebeat says, that pre-heat tube really does make a difference. It is why I like the Bulin more than the WebTex or Thermolite (which I still have).
I've seen this suggestion a couple of times regarding warming up the cannisters in warm water in the colder months. Is this something you need to do every time before use in 5he winter or only first thing in the morning and it will be fine for the rest of the day.
Also, if you're needing to warm up the cannisters in a shallow pan of warm water, where are you sourcing the warm water if your stove isn't working to heat up the water anyway (it sounds like the case of which came first, the chicken or the egg).
In reply to Post #14
Any half decent gas stove will flame enough to make a few mm of water in a pan warm in any UK temp. Then just put the bottom of the gas can in the warm water and it will be roaring in no time.
I have a Bullin and in my opinion the pre heat tube makes a difference, I wouldn't bother with a stove without one.
Depends on the day. If you are waking up at 3 or 4 degrees C or less and it stays that cold all day then you might need to do it throughout the day. If it warms up to 7 degrees or more just the once.
Warm A couple of millimetres of water in the saucepan to boil a kettle or Moka pot, neither chicken nor egg, just a quick fix😉
It is normally only a problem when the canister is nearly empty as the pressure inside is lower.
As Bluebeat says, that pre-heat tube really does make a difference. It is why I like the Bulin more than the WebTex or Thermolite (which I still have).
I've seen this suggestion a couple of times regarding warming up the cannisters in warm water in the colder months. Is this something you need to do every time before use in 5he winter or only first thing in the morning and it will be fine for the rest of the day.
Also, if you're needing to warm up the cannisters in a shallow pan of warm water, where are you sourcing the warm water if your stove isn't working to heat up the water anyway (it sounds like the case of which came first, the chicken or the egg).
In reply to Post #14
Any half decent gas stove will flame enough to make a few mm of water in a pan warm in any UK temp. Then just put the bottom of the gas can in the warm water and it will be roaring in no time.
I have a Bullin and in my opinion the pre heat tube makes a difference, I wouldn't bother with a stove without one.
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Depending on what version you buy ,they come with a kettle specified to the system you have bought..,unless you don't want a kettle as some use the space for fuel ,or a cup..
The smaller the no,is the size of the set,ie 25 size is the so called family Trangia,the 27 is a one and two man version,you buy the gas burner separately if you want..I bought a generic,go gas one,and went straight back to meths ,but that's me..
I also use the 28 mini,for another interest ,it is also part of my survival grab bag,that I have,plus a lixada stick stove and Hammaro lighting paper..
My humble advice,....get a 27ul,ultralight and non stick pan,don't bother with gas..and have fun...you wanna see the Mably wagyus I cook on it...three component meals,teach old outlaw and Ramsey ...lol
Pps,look at my 27 ul ,pre non stick frypan in my avatar,it shows the kettle,and how it sits in...!
Depending on what version you buy ,they come with a kettle specified to the system you have bought..,unless you don't want a kettle as some use the space for fuel ,or a cup..
The smaller the no,is the size of the set,ie 25 size is the so called family Trangia,the 27 is a one and two man version,you buy the gas burner separately if you want..I bought a generic,go gas one,and went straight back to meths ,but that's me..
I also use the 28 mini,for another interest ,it is also part of my survival grab bag,that I have,plus a lixada stick stove and Hammaro lighting paper..
My humble advice,....get a 27ul,ultralight and non stick pan,don't bother with gas..and have fun...you wanna see the Mably wagyus I cook on it...three component meals,teach old outlaw and Ramsey ...lol
Pps,look at my 27 ul ,pre non stick frypan in my avatar,it shows the kettle,and how it sits in...!
In reply to Post #23
>>>>I have looked at them but aren't they very slow in heating up your water or grub?<<<
If you use a preheater with a Trangia, you will be cooking straight away in seconds and then they are not slow. Overdo the preheater though and the Trangia burner will be like an Saturn 5 rocket engine on steroids.
But, no matter how long it takes your water to boil, you can still be looking at the water for activity, their is no need to sit with your eyes transfixed on your kettle singing "Boil Baby Boil".
I also bought the Trangia Billy Can, 2.5 litres to fit my Trangia 27. It all fits inside the Billy can including the windshields etc as I find the supplied cooking pots too "piddly" small unless your cooking a tin of soup or sausages and beans etc but with the Billy can it makes it easier to knock up big meals like a stirfry or stew and plenty of room to "Stir" things without it falling out of the pan.
>>>>I have looked at them but aren't they very slow in heating up your water or grub?<<<
If you use a preheater with a Trangia, you will be cooking straight away in seconds and then they are not slow. Overdo the preheater though and the Trangia burner will be like an Saturn 5 rocket engine on steroids.
But, no matter how long it takes your water to boil, you can still be looking at the water for activity, their is no need to sit with your eyes transfixed on your kettle singing "Boil Baby Boil".
I also bought the Trangia Billy Can, 2.5 litres to fit my Trangia 27. It all fits inside the Billy can including the windshields etc as I find the supplied cooking pots too "piddly" small unless your cooking a tin of soup or sausages and beans etc but with the Billy can it makes it easier to knock up big meals like a stirfry or stew and plenty of room to "Stir" things without it falling out of the pan.
In reply to Post #28
Zack,if you look at Paul Bisseker Bushcraft on YouTube he does a vid on that Billy can set up,he also uses it as oven on its side..
Don't know if you have seen it..?
Zack,if you look at Paul Bisseker Bushcraft on YouTube he does a vid on that Billy can set up,he also uses it as oven on its side..
Don't know if you have seen it..?
stoves with a pre heat tube dont need any of this hot water nonsence
in zero degrees butane wont vaporise into a gas but if you have a stove like a Bulin thats got a pre heat tube you simply light it then turn the gas bottle upside down this will then gravity feed the liquid gas the pre heat tube will then vaporise it into gas and it will run like its a summers day simple
in zero degrees butane wont vaporise into a gas but if you have a stove like a Bulin thats got a pre heat tube you simply light it then turn the gas bottle upside down this will then gravity feed the liquid gas the pre heat tube will then vaporise it into gas and it will run like its a summers day simple
In reply to Post #29
No, I have not seen that video, if I was to watch all videos like that etc on youtube by him and others, I would never get fishing.
Its the same with Ridgemonkeys on Youtube, but they go by the names of "Happy Pan" or "Happycall" etc which are the originals that Ridgemonkey adapted, loads of video's and recipes etc. Makes us look amateurs etc just warming up chips, burgers, pizza's meat pies in them etc. In fact, I wish I had bought one of them instead of the ridgemonkey as they are far better having a seal around the edges and being a bit bigger.
But, buying the Billy can is probably the best add on for a Trangia I think.
No, I have not seen that video, if I was to watch all videos like that etc on youtube by him and others, I would never get fishing.
Its the same with Ridgemonkeys on Youtube, but they go by the names of "Happy Pan" or "Happycall" etc which are the originals that Ridgemonkey adapted, loads of video's and recipes etc. Makes us look amateurs etc just warming up chips, burgers, pizza's meat pies in them etc. In fact, I wish I had bought one of them instead of the ridgemonkey as they are far better having a seal around the edges and being a bit bigger.
But, buying the Billy can is probably the best add on for a Trangia I think.
Why do you need to carry an additional kettle if the set comes with a small saucepan and you can't use the frying pan as a lid?
Colman's, pfft.
Have a look at the MSR Whisperlite. The MSR is quiet, multi fuel and doesn't cost a fortune.
Have a look at the MSR Whisperlite. The MSR is quiet, multi fuel and doesn't cost a fortune.
In reply to Post #1
I know everyone has their favourites when it comes to stoves, so I thought I'd mention the one I use. Probably the cheapest bit of equipment that I have, it cost less than £20, but it's a plain old camping gas stove which uses £1-£1.50 gas cartridges. I think I paid a fiver for four canisters in B&M.
I can honestly say whilst it's not got a fancy name, this type of stove has served me well for nearly ten years in all weathers.
Available on ebay for less than the price of two packets of cigarettes. I'm presently out on a 5 day session and more than half way through after cooking meals, countless brews, even boiling a few kettles for a mobile shower that I use, I'm still on the second gas cartridge.
I swapped from a Coleman petrol stove years ago after getting fed up being covered in fuel.
Wouldn't be without it. Cheap as chips and IMO it's as reliable as it gets having never failed me.
Even comes supplied in a black plastic carry case. If it ever did break I'd buy another immediately 👍
I know everyone has their favourites when it comes to stoves, so I thought I'd mention the one I use. Probably the cheapest bit of equipment that I have, it cost less than £20, but it's a plain old camping gas stove which uses £1-£1.50 gas cartridges. I think I paid a fiver for four canisters in B&M.
I can honestly say whilst it's not got a fancy name, this type of stove has served me well for nearly ten years in all weathers.
Available on ebay for less than the price of two packets of cigarettes. I'm presently out on a 5 day session and more than half way through after cooking meals, countless brews, even boiling a few kettles for a mobile shower that I use, I'm still on the second gas cartridge.
I swapped from a Coleman petrol stove years ago after getting fed up being covered in fuel.
Wouldn't be without it. Cheap as chips and IMO it's as reliable as it gets having never failed me.
Even comes supplied in a black plastic carry case. If it ever did break I'd buy another immediately 👍
In reply to Post #34
These are prone to gas leaks and probably connected ti a few bivvy fires.
These are prone to gas leaks and probably connected ti a few bivvy fires.
In reply to Post #34
yes they are ok I got a couple
but there is a very dangerous problem thats been identified as the cause of some terrible fires
I believe they have put a warning sticker on them now ? as the can of gas is next to ring IF !! YOU put a pan thats very big and it goes over the gas compartment this can cause the gas canister to overheat the gas expands the seal fails and then the can of gas explodes
I have never been covered in petrol if on a long session I keep a gallon in the car but normally a tank full plus a small fuel bottle is fine for a 2 or 3 nights I bought my Peak 400a in 1985 have replaced the genny once and its had a new set of washers and 30 odd years later still going perfect brilliant bomb proof any weather stove much cheaper to run than a gas stove and I love cooking on my Coleman double burner too
just saying
yes they are ok I got a couple
but there is a very dangerous problem thats been identified as the cause of some terrible fires
I believe they have put a warning sticker on them now ? as the can of gas is next to ring IF !! YOU put a pan thats very big and it goes over the gas compartment this can cause the gas canister to overheat the gas expands the seal fails and then the can of gas explodes
I have never been covered in petrol if on a long session I keep a gallon in the car but normally a tank full plus a small fuel bottle is fine for a 2 or 3 nights I bought my Peak 400a in 1985 have replaced the genny once and its had a new set of washers and 30 odd years later still going perfect brilliant bomb proof any weather stove much cheaper to run than a gas stove and I love cooking on my Coleman double burner too
just saying
In reply to Post #35
I never personally use mine inside my bivvy, it's on a table outside or on the floor, again outside. I guess if you use any kind of flame inside your bivvy you are taking a chance.
As I say, 10 years of cheap reliable portable cooking, making brews in all weathers without any incidents, accidents, explosions etc, etc.
I wouldn't say you couldn't have problems, like anything it depends how you use it.
I never personally use mine inside my bivvy, it's on a table outside or on the floor, again outside. I guess if you use any kind of flame inside your bivvy you are taking a chance.
As I say, 10 years of cheap reliable portable cooking, making brews in all weathers without any incidents, accidents, explosions etc, etc.
I wouldn't say you couldn't have problems, like anything it depends how you use it.
In reply to Post #36
Mines probably too old Gerry for the warning sticker, but all I can say about the one I use is it's been brilliant, I haven't had a single issue in a decade of use, used outside sensibly properly vented and in both hot and cold conditions.
I hope you are well by the way and now on the mend.
Best wishes.
Mines probably too old Gerry for the warning sticker, but all I can say about the one I use is it's been brilliant, I haven't had a single issue in a decade of use, used outside sensibly properly vented and in both hot and cold conditions.
I hope you are well by the way and now on the mend.
Best wishes.
In reply to Post #34
I think these are banned in parts of Australia. I got one from Kmart, drive for 2 hours into a different state and got told I couldn't use it at their campsite. Should've cooked my food over a burning $20 note
I think these are banned in parts of Australia. I got one from Kmart, drive for 2 hours into a different state and got told I couldn't use it at their campsite. Should've cooked my food over a burning $20 note
In reply to Post #34
I have a friend who had one, when I told him how dangerous they are, he told me how good it was and he had had it for years with no problems.
A few weeks later I went to see him and first thing I saw in his swim was his burnt out blackened melted cooker. It had gone up in a fireball.
Personally, I would not recommend them to anyone.
I have a friend who had one, when I told him how dangerous they are, he told me how good it was and he had had it for years with no problems.
A few weeks later I went to see him and first thing I saw in his swim was his burnt out blackened melted cooker. It had gone up in a fireball.
Personally, I would not recommend them to anyone.
In reply to Post #40
All I can comment on is my own experience. Mine has been brilliant and I wont be changing any time soon.
All I can comment on is my own experience. Mine has been brilliant and I wont be changing any time soon.
In reply to Post #40
those suitcase stoves are safe provided you take the precautions needed like only using a pan size that does not exceed the diameter of the gas burner bit
(((one exploded when the new owner did not realise to pack it the pan support is stored upside down so they lit the stove and it reflected the heat down until the stove got so hot BANG))
AND very important the sprung bar bit that holds the gas can can become bent so from time to time needs bending to ensure a tight fit with the sealing ring
like every other cooker there are things you need to be aware of most problems are caused by user error of lack of maintenance etc
and in some cases brain dead ****s that should not be let out on their own
those suitcase stoves are safe provided you take the precautions needed like only using a pan size that does not exceed the diameter of the gas burner bit
(((one exploded when the new owner did not realise to pack it the pan support is stored upside down so they lit the stove and it reflected the heat down until the stove got so hot BANG))
AND very important the sprung bar bit that holds the gas can can become bent so from time to time needs bending to ensure a tight fit with the sealing ring
like every other cooker there are things you need to be aware of most problems are caused by user error of lack of maintenance etc
and in some cases brain dead ****s that should not be let out on their own
In reply to Post #42
Unfortunately the last line of your reply is far too common. Hence McDonald's having to put a warning on their coffee that it may be hot. For God's sake . If people need such advice then for a long and healthy life just follow this. Breathe in, Breathe out. Repeat as long as required.
Remember there is no cure for terminal stupidity.
Unfortunately the last line of your reply is far too common. Hence McDonald's having to put a warning on their coffee that it may be hot. For God's sake . If people need such advice then for a long and healthy life just follow this. Breathe in, Breathe out. Repeat as long as required.
Remember there is no cure for terminal stupidity.
In reply to Post #31
Don't forget to look at the Esbit range as well, they make some quality kit
If you get an Alcohol version, obviously it will run on Meths/Gel as well, but you also get the stand for solid fuel tablets, or leave the stand/burner out and you can even use twigs.
Don't forget to look at the Esbit range as well, they make some quality kit
If you get an Alcohol version, obviously it will run on Meths/Gel as well, but you also get the stand for solid fuel tablets, or leave the stand/burner out and you can even use twigs.
In reply to Post #44
Blimey, that takes me back to my Army Cadet days.
Blimey, that takes me back to my Army Cadet days.
Love the Coleman double burner stove and after having an instinctive mind to throw the thing when it went up in flames once I still get to love my bivvy too...... 
In reply to Post #45
Think they will have advanced a bit since then
https://esbit.de/en/products/cooksets-with-alcohol-burner/
https://esbit.de/en/
That Stainless Steel Coffee Maker keeps catching my attention, I'll give in soon
Think they will have advanced a bit since then
https://esbit.de/en/products/cooksets-with-alcohol-burner/
https://esbit.de/en/
That Stainless Steel Coffee Maker keeps catching my attention, I'll give in soon
In reply to Post #47
Yes quite a range, I bet putting a tin of processed cheese on one still has the same effect though. The things we did for amusement, before the internet eh.
Yes quite a range, I bet putting a tin of processed cheese on one still has the same effect though. The things we did for amusement, before the internet eh.
Is there any controllability with the Trangia stoves or does it just burn as hot as it burns?
In reply to Post #49
They have a flame restrictor you fit onto the top of the Burner, you can set it to any heat level you wish.
They have a flame restrictor you fit onto the top of the Burner, you can set it to any heat level you wish.
In reply to Post #50
Thanks for the info, very tempted by one. Is the non-stick option worth it or is it just thin stuff that flakes off after a couple of uses?
Thanks for the info, very tempted by one. Is the non-stick option worth it or is it just thin stuff that flakes off after a couple of uses?
In reply to Post #51
Seriously, don't bother, that is unless you're happy taking a literal lifetime to cook anything. Imagine using a candle flame to cook a meal.
A pal of mine was banging on about his alcohol cooker, Jesus Christ, what a load of old junk that was. Took an hour to get 2 bags of rice luke Warm. Utterly hopeless. He had a Trangia years before, surprised he hadn't learnt his lesson.
Seriously, don't bother, that is unless you're happy taking a literal lifetime to cook anything. Imagine using a candle flame to cook a meal.
A pal of mine was banging on about his alcohol cooker, Jesus Christ, what a load of old junk that was. Took an hour to get 2 bags of rice luke Warm. Utterly hopeless. He had a Trangia years before, surprised he hadn't learnt his lesson.
In reply to Post #52
I used my Trangia stove on a 3 week wet windy winter French trip to boil my kettle on for all my hot drinks
and a Coleman double burner run on Aspen for all my meals and pressure cooking my hemp and the Coleman is fantastic especially with my cast griddle on top of it
it was perfection there is something really enjoyable using the Trangia I love the silence of it and it works sooo well on a windy day
I used my Trangia stove on a 3 week wet windy winter French trip to boil my kettle on for all my hot drinks
and a Coleman double burner run on Aspen for all my meals and pressure cooking my hemp and the Coleman is fantastic especially with my cast griddle on top of it
it was perfection there is something really enjoyable using the Trangia I love the silence of it and it works sooo well on a windy day
In reply to Post #51
My last Trangia frying pan I had for 5 years,I don't just use it for fishing, so in normal use they are sturdy pans,just use a thin wooden spatula on the non stick and make sure you use the protective plastic circle it comes with..
I'm out now, three of us we all got Trangias,I've just done a Mably Wagyu steak,fried mushrooms and sliced potatoes..,my sin has a home cooked spagbol,reheated and our friend whose a good chef ,trained by matey up the road is doing a mixed grill..
Wouldn't be without mine,
I'll send you a pm,where you can see what I have cooked on local farm produce...
My last Trangia frying pan I had for 5 years,I don't just use it for fishing, so in normal use they are sturdy pans,just use a thin wooden spatula on the non stick and make sure you use the protective plastic circle it comes with..
I'm out now, three of us we all got Trangias,I've just done a Mably Wagyu steak,fried mushrooms and sliced potatoes..,my sin has a home cooked spagbol,reheated and our friend whose a good chef ,trained by matey up the road is doing a mixed grill..
Wouldn't be without mine,
I'll send you a pm,where you can see what I have cooked on local farm produce...
In reply to Post #52
Was watching some Youtube vids last night and although cooking is slower it doesn't seem to be overly painful. To be honest the lower heat output may benefit my cooking, I do have a tendency to burn stuff at the moment.
Will probably go with the 27 non-stick set with the kettle and also get a cheap gas burner as well. Already have a Bulin T4 so the Trangia is more for a different experience.
Was watching some Youtube vids last night and although cooking is slower it doesn't seem to be overly painful. To be honest the lower heat output may benefit my cooking, I do have a tendency to burn stuff at the moment.
Will probably go with the 27 non-stick set with the kettle and also get a cheap gas burner as well. Already have a Bulin T4 so the Trangia is more for a different experience.
In reply to Post #55
Been thinking and that's not a bad idea really. Use the gas stove part for boiling water for tea and coffee etc and the slower heat source/meth burner part for cooking. 👍
Been thinking and that's not a bad idea really. Use the gas stove part for boiling water for tea and coffee etc and the slower heat source/meth burner part for cooking. 👍
I had the go system one...firstly I got a bollocking from the rest of Kernow TAS..for going against the grain..ie trying gas ..
This was my findings..
If you get the bog standard gas canister, that screws in it will perform better, than the long thin canister, that I had to buy an adaptor for...also,to make the long thin cheaper canisters work you have to stand em up,or they flare,up,believe me, one does look odd with no eyebrows ,I tell you..
I kept the case from the go system,for a sawyer mini filter,and now use meths,..
Best bit of advice I can give anyone..
You have learn how to cook on a Trangia,it's an art of controlled cooking at a more enjoyable rate and experience..
It's also the only stove I'd use inside a bivvy or tent porch due to stability in all situations..
This was my findings..
If you get the bog standard gas canister, that screws in it will perform better, than the long thin canister, that I had to buy an adaptor for...also,to make the long thin cheaper canisters work you have to stand em up,or they flare,up,believe me, one does look odd with no eyebrows ,I tell you..
I kept the case from the go system,for a sawyer mini filter,and now use meths,..
Best bit of advice I can give anyone..
You have learn how to cook on a Trangia,it's an art of controlled cooking at a more enjoyable rate and experience..
It's also the only stove I'd use inside a bivvy or tent porch due to stability in all situations..
In reply to Post #58
I never use the long thin cheaper canisters
despite the fact I did buy the adapter to be able to use one if I was ever stuck and could not get the screw in ones
and I use the go system gas one after comparing it with my mates Trangia official one it performs exactly the same for under half the price
I have filled the empty screw in ones with a bulk tank of propane gas only did it a couple of times but thought it wasnt worth the messing around binned the idea
I never use the long thin cheaper canisters
despite the fact I did buy the adapter to be able to use one if I was ever stuck and could not get the screw in ones
and I use the go system gas one after comparing it with my mates Trangia official one it performs exactly the same for under half the price
I have filled the empty screw in ones with a bulk tank of propane gas only did it a couple of times but thought it wasnt worth the messing around binned the idea
In reply to Post #58
I use bio ethanol in my Trangia. It doesn't stink like meths and seems to burn cleaner. It's very cheap when you buy 20l too.
I use bio ethanol in my Trangia. It doesn't stink like meths and seems to burn cleaner. It's very cheap when you buy 20l too.
In reply to Post #59
Good info Gerry...I did also learn that the go system and proper trangia gas burner,also fit really well in the slot on the lixada stick stove,as its a good solid platform,plus if you ran out of meths or bio,you could get a fire going in the lixada if needed or tinder was dry enough,to fire it up...
And if anyone has got a Trangia triangle,the gas thingy also fits into those,although discontinued ,the nearest is the Click stand version or tatonka,which also fits the tatonka titanium meths burner as well..
Although any survivalist ideas dissappeard in the wet weather,earlier..
As said bioethanol also great,I use it sometimes..
Good info Gerry...I did also learn that the go system and proper trangia gas burner,also fit really well in the slot on the lixada stick stove,as its a good solid platform,plus if you ran out of meths or bio,you could get a fire going in the lixada if needed or tinder was dry enough,to fire it up...
And if anyone has got a Trangia triangle,the gas thingy also fits into those,although discontinued ,the nearest is the Click stand version or tatonka,which also fits the tatonka titanium meths burner as well..
Although any survivalist ideas dissappeard in the wet weather,earlier..
As said bioethanol also great,I use it sometimes..
In reply to Post #61
I bought a case of 24 bioethanol when Eckofuels started up years ago it was silly cheap at the time less than a quid a litre delivered back then
Pros its much cleaner than Meths so no sooting and no orrible smell (( and yea yea tried the water added to meths and didnt work very well ))
Cons it burns quite a bit hotter so uses a a fair bit more than meths
I have also used denatured Alcohol 96% too
Ekofuels now seem to have done away with some labels and just call it
Bioethanol Fuel For Fireplaces this was where I bought mine from years ago it may now be cheaper on Amazon or Ebay ?
as loads of places now sell it ? but this is the stuff your looking for LINKY POO 
(next day free delivery)
I bought a case of 24 bioethanol when Eckofuels started up years ago it was silly cheap at the time less than a quid a litre delivered back then
Pros its much cleaner than Meths so no sooting and no orrible smell (( and yea yea tried the water added to meths and didnt work very well ))
Cons it burns quite a bit hotter so uses a a fair bit more than meths
I have also used denatured Alcohol 96% too
Ekofuels now seem to have done away with some labels and just call it
Bioethanol Fuel For Fireplaces this was where I bought mine from years ago it may now be cheaper on Amazon or Ebay ?
as loads of places now sell it ? but this is the stuff your looking for LINKY POO
(next day free delivery)
In reply to Post #62
That is great info...thanks again..I'll get some ordered and try it out properly..
Cheers..
That is great info...thanks again..I'll get some ordered and try it out properly..
Cheers..
Anyone tried the Duossel pans from Trangia? Summit's seem to have a good price on them with 10% off
LINK
I'm spending more time looking at pans than I did when buying my rods & reels !!
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I'm spending more time looking at pans than I did when buying my rods & reels !!
In reply to Post #64
my mate has the original all stainless Trangia its heavy but great bit of kit
I like the sound of those stainless lined pans
my mate has the original all stainless Trangia its heavy but great bit of kit
I like the sound of those stainless lined pans
In reply to Post #64
Apparently, from others I have spoken with the Hard anodised and duosol pans don't spread the heat across the pans as well as the nonstick does...
You can go on Trangia Central website and learn more,if anyone offers you a red base Trangia set up ,take it..!..and run fast,..
Apparently, from others I have spoken with the Hard anodised and duosol pans don't spread the heat across the pans as well as the nonstick does...
You can go on Trangia Central website and learn more,if anyone offers you a red base Trangia set up ,take it..!..and run fast,..
In reply to Post #66
I've got a dark grey hard anodised set and they don't seem to burn in one spot on the bottom. They all seem pretty non-stick and easy to clean, despite not having normal a non-stick surface.
I've got a dark grey hard anodised set and they don't seem to burn in one spot on the bottom. They all seem pretty non-stick and easy to clean, despite not having normal a non-stick surface.
I got a couple of Coleman Exponent Non Stick pans that fit my Trangia perfectly
they are now discontinued but NOTHING comes close to these pans nothing ever sticks they are Non stick, hard anodised aluminium pans
feature grooved bottoms to keep them centered on a normal stove
Lid: features a silicone heat pad that helps prevent the flip top handle from getting too hot
Remember the name in case you ever see a set come up Coleman Exponent Non Stick pans
they are now discontinued but NOTHING comes close to these pans nothing ever sticks they are Non stick, hard anodised aluminium pans
feature grooved bottoms to keep them centered on a normal stove
Lid: features a silicone heat pad that helps prevent the flip top handle from getting too hot
Remember the name in case you ever see a set come up Coleman Exponent Non Stick pans
In reply to Post #68
Good info ..re Coleman pans..
And ,I might just try hard anodised for myself next time,I've been tempted before,I read a lot of American reviewers,and they like them...and see what I think..thats the only way is to try it for yourself .
Good info ..re Coleman pans..
And ,I might just try hard anodised for myself next time,I've been tempted before,I read a lot of American reviewers,and they like them...and see what I think..thats the only way is to try it for yourself .
In reply to Post #70
if you carry a phone power,pack ?
then you can buy one of these solves all the below freezing temps gas can problems LINKY POO 
And yes the only thing with the wonderful Primus Gravity stove is its low to the ground and stood on a groundsheet can burn it so I just bought a plumbers solder matt that it sits on
if you carry a phone power,pack ?
then you can buy one of these solves all the below freezing temps gas can problems
LINKY POO And yes the only thing with the wonderful Primus Gravity stove is its low to the ground and stood on a groundsheet can burn it so I just bought a plumbers solder matt that it sits on
In reply to Post #71
Do we have to have the usb warmers with those images or do they come in other colours/patterns. Like DC or Marvel perhaps or if a carp taxing manufacturer who can sell them for £30 each Instead of £2.99.🤣🤣🤣
Do we have to have the usb warmers with those images or do they come in other colours/patterns. Like DC or Marvel perhaps or if a carp taxing manufacturer who can sell them for £30 each Instead of £2.99.🤣🤣🤣
Lol.
Having to warm up gas coz it's pony in the winter. Here's a fix, buy a decent multi fuel cooker that you just pump up and works no matter what weather hits the U.K/ Europe, even works up Everest...
Having to warm up gas coz it's pony in the winter. Here's a fix, buy a decent multi fuel cooker that you just pump up and works no matter what weather hits the U.K/ Europe, even works up Everest...
In reply to Post #73
some people just like using gas and fish in places where it gets proper winters its a simple clean non smelling fix
I had a Primus multi fuel stove biggest pile of unnecessary poo I ever wasted money on
these stoves are for people that travel in countries were some fuels are unavailable not really the case in Europe is it ?
#pointlessmellynoiseycrap
my Coleman pisses all over these stoves as does my Primus Gravity thats getting on for 30 years old now and still going strong or my go system Zenith
some people just like using gas and fish in places where it gets proper winters its a simple clean non smelling fix
I had a Primus multi fuel stove biggest pile of unnecessary poo I ever wasted money on
these stoves are for people that travel in countries were some fuels are unavailable not really the case in Europe is it ?
#pointlessmellynoiseycrap
my Coleman pisses all over these stoves as does my Primus Gravity thats getting on for 30 years old now and still going strong or my go system Zenith
In reply to Post #74
"these stoves are for people that travel in countries were some fuels are unavailable not really the case in Europe is it ?"
Er, what if you just want to be able to use a variety of different fuels if needs be? Maybe those same people buying such cookers go around the world...and fish in the U.K?.
"I had a Primus multi fuel stove biggest pile of unnecessary poo I ever wasted money on"
Never used one so I can't comment. What I do know is that MSR multi fuel cookers and my current Optimus Polaris Optifuel is the bollox.
"my Coleman pisses all over these stoves"
Stop being ridiculous. Just stop.
"these stoves are for people that travel in countries were some fuels are unavailable not really the case in Europe is it ?"
Er, what if you just want to be able to use a variety of different fuels if needs be? Maybe those same people buying such cookers go around the world...and fish in the U.K?.
"I had a Primus multi fuel stove biggest pile of unnecessary poo I ever wasted money on"
Never used one so I can't comment. What I do know is that MSR multi fuel cookers and my current Optimus Polaris Optifuel is the bollox.
"my Coleman pisses all over these stoves"
Stop being ridiculous. Just stop.
In reply to Post #75
But isn't gas easier to get hold of than petrol these days in the UK?
I had a Primus Omnifuel too. Worked ok, but far too loud.
But isn't gas easier to get hold of than petrol these days in the UK?
I had a Primus Omnifuel too. Worked ok, but far too loud.
In reply to Post #76
I've watched a ton of videos on the multi-fuel stoves from MSR, Primus and Optimus and they all look great but the one thing that's putting me off is the racket they all make. You can get the silent caps from Berniedawg but you shouldn't have to pay another £30 to make it quieter. For that reason I'm probably more likely to get either the Coleman Sportster or try a gas stove. If it was purely for camping then I'd consider one of the multi-fuel stoves but I'm hopefully at a lake or river trying to catch fish and to me that means being as quiet as bloody possible to increase my chances of not blanking.
I've watched a ton of videos on the multi-fuel stoves from MSR, Primus and Optimus and they all look great but the one thing that's putting me off is the racket they all make. You can get the silent caps from Berniedawg but you shouldn't have to pay another £30 to make it quieter. For that reason I'm probably more likely to get either the Coleman Sportster or try a gas stove. If it was purely for camping then I'd consider one of the multi-fuel stoves but I'm hopefully at a lake or river trying to catch fish and to me that means being as quiet as bloody possible to increase my chances of not blanking.
In reply to Post #76
I've watched a ton of videos on the multi-fuel stoves from MSR, Primus and Optimus and they all look great but the one thing that's putting me off is the racket they all make. You can get the silent caps from Berniedawg but you shouldn't have to pay another £30 to make it quieter. For that reason I'm probably more likely to get either the Coleman Sportster or try a gas stove. If it was purely for camping then I'd consider one of the multi-fuel stoves but I'm hopefully at a lake or river trying to catch fish and to me that means being as quiet as bloody possible to increase my chances of not blanking.
I've watched a ton of videos on the multi-fuel stoves from MSR, Primus and Optimus and they all look great but the one thing that's putting me off is the racket they all make. You can get the silent caps from Berniedawg but you shouldn't have to pay another £30 to make it quieter. For that reason I'm probably more likely to get either the Coleman Sportster or try a gas stove. If it was purely for camping then I'd consider one of the multi-fuel stoves but I'm hopefully at a lake or river trying to catch fish and to me that means being as quiet as bloody possible to increase my chances of not blanking.
In reply to Post #77
The MSR Whisperlite is probably the quietest of the lot and you don't need a pawdawg with it.
I decided to get a pawdawg for my Polaris and it does make a huge difference. When you add it up, yeah, it's not cheap. The Whisperlite cooks marginally quicker than my Polaris.
I've had nigh on every cooker out there barr a few, gas, petrol, multi fuel, meths, alcohol, two sticks you rub together. The best by a very long shot is the Polaris.
If you wanna take you're life/bivvy in your own hands, go for the Coleman's - they have a very nasty habit of turning into a fireball.
The MSR Whisperlite is probably the quietest of the lot and you don't need a pawdawg with it.
I decided to get a pawdawg for my Polaris and it does make a huge difference. When you add it up, yeah, it's not cheap. The Whisperlite cooks marginally quicker than my Polaris.
I've had nigh on every cooker out there barr a few, gas, petrol, multi fuel, meths, alcohol, two sticks you rub together. The best by a very long shot is the Polaris.
If you wanna take you're life/bivvy in your own hands, go for the Coleman's - they have a very nasty habit of turning into a fireball.
In reply to Post #76
Both the MSR and the Polaris run off gas.
Both the MSR and the Polaris run off gas.
In reply to Post #79
I too have owned and used most types of stoves since I started carp fishing in 1962 and there are millions of Coleman petrol stoves in use world wide without any problems what so ever
YES some people have had problems
and 99% are USER ERROR you cant blame a stove if its being operated incorrectly !
same with ANY STOVE been tons of fires with gas stoves being operated incorrectly too
I have Been using Coleman stoves since they introduced the 400a back in the day and its still perfect today I also use my Coleman double burner never had any issues
Your always slagging off Coleman stoves ?
I can only assume your one of those people that dont know how to use one
I too have owned and used most types of stoves since I started carp fishing in 1962 and there are millions of Coleman petrol stoves in use world wide without any problems what so ever
YES some people have had problems
and 99% are USER ERROR you cant blame a stove if its being operated incorrectly !
same with ANY STOVE been tons of fires with gas stoves being operated incorrectly too
I have Been using Coleman stoves since they introduced the 400a back in the day and its still perfect today I also use my Coleman double burner never had any issues
Your always slagging off Coleman stoves ?
I can only assume your one of those people that dont know how to use one
I wouldn't tie yourself in knots or spend a lot on a stove for fishing. A Bullin T4 and a can of 70/30 gas will do you fine 12 months of the year in the UK. Much more interesting things to ponder in fishing than how best to boil your kettle.
In reply to Post #79
Unlike you and Oldgeezer, I haven't had an awful lot of stoves so my experience and knowledge isn't anywhere near you two.
However, I had a Coleman sportster for quite a few years and never really had any problems. I did have a few problems initially when I first got the stove with not being able to get it to simmer but as Oldgeezer mentioned, that was me and user error. Once I worked out how to use it properly, it was an excellent stove.
I never had any danger moments as I wouldn't cook anywhere near my bivvy. Anyone lighting up inside or extremely close to their bivvy is surely asking for trouble.
I think we all need to take a step back though and just accept we all have our own choices and preferences. All of the stoves spoken about on this thread have their positives and negatives in the eyes of the user, but can we try to avoid getting so animated on our opinions where we verge on being insulting to another person's opinion. It's an opinion and like an arse hole, everyone has one.
Come on guys, try to show a bit of respect to each other. It's an accessory to use in something we all commonly love, and that's the sport of carp fishing. 😁👍
Unlike you and Oldgeezer, I haven't had an awful lot of stoves so my experience and knowledge isn't anywhere near you two.
However, I had a Coleman sportster for quite a few years and never really had any problems. I did have a few problems initially when I first got the stove with not being able to get it to simmer but as Oldgeezer mentioned, that was me and user error. Once I worked out how to use it properly, it was an excellent stove.
I never had any danger moments as I wouldn't cook anywhere near my bivvy. Anyone lighting up inside or extremely close to their bivvy is surely asking for trouble.
I think we all need to take a step back though and just accept we all have our own choices and preferences. All of the stoves spoken about on this thread have their positives and negatives in the eyes of the user, but can we try to avoid getting so animated on our opinions where we verge on being insulting to another person's opinion. It's an opinion and like an arse hole, everyone has one.
Come on guys, try to show a bit of respect to each other. It's an accessory to use in something we all commonly love, and that's the sport of carp fishing. 😁👍
In reply to Post #83
In reply to Post #81
"there are millions of Coleman petrol stoves in use world wide without any problems what so ever"
How can you make such a claim? Cite your evidence.
"99% are USER ERROR you cant blame a stove if its being operated incorrectly !"
Really, 99%? Why not 99.1 or 99.2, even 99.9%. I'm guessing you must have evidence to back that claim up, yes?
I'll tell you anecdotally that five people I know of have had them fireball on them, plus myself. It's the shutoff valve that's pony.
I don't care if you've been using them since the dinosaurs and I don't care who makes them, they're a crap design and there's much better about, is it that hard to comprehend?
"there are millions of Coleman petrol stoves in use world wide without any problems what so ever"
How can you make such a claim? Cite your evidence.
"99% are USER ERROR you cant blame a stove if its being operated incorrectly !"
Really, 99%? Why not 99.1 or 99.2, even 99.9%. I'm guessing you must have evidence to back that claim up, yes?
I'll tell you anecdotally that five people I know of have had them fireball on them, plus myself. It's the shutoff valve that's pony.
I don't care if you've been using them since the dinosaurs and I don't care who makes them, they're a crap design and there's much better about, is it that hard to comprehend?
In reply to Post #85
your pathetic grow up tired with your juvenile comments end of chat you tosser
your pathetic grow up tired with your juvenile comments end of chat you tosser
In reply to Post #86
Ooh er.
Cant be bothered to highlight your hypocrisy in your last post. Anyways, just a shame people can't tell the difference between forcefully sharing an option and somehow thinking someone is being juvenile. Weird.
Anger management maybe?
Ooh er.
Cant be bothered to highlight your hypocrisy in your last post. Anyways, just a shame people can't tell the difference between forcefully sharing an option and somehow thinking someone is being juvenile. Weird.
Anger management maybe?
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