Just seen tacklebox advertising there new bait any know who rolls them or if they roll there self's is that first bait they've ever done ?
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It's not rolled by them,
It's not rolled by them,
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They used to do lees jacksons min ge r range
They used to do lees jacksons min ge r range
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At 11 pound a kilo it'll b in the sale section next year being reduced in price
At 11 pound a kilo it'll b in the sale section next year being reduced in price
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Yh I'd of given it a try if was a 5kilo around £30 Mark
Yh I'd of given it a try if was a 5kilo around £30 Mark
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But..
It could be the holy grail
But..
It could be the holy grail
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It could b the new super bait but I'll take my chances and stop with what I no prob nothing wrong with it at all but it makes it a expensive past time at 11 quid they prob do a deal on bulk well they have to to sell any
It could b the new super bait but I'll take my chances and stop with what I no prob nothing wrong with it at all but it makes it a expensive past time at 11 quid they prob do a deal on bulk well they have to to sell any
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As will most of us..
As will most of us..
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Same price as single kilos in most mainstream baits 🤷♀️
Same price as single kilos in most mainstream baits 🤷♀️
Not overly price for a kilo of shop bought bait to be honest. If you look on the TB site it's a bird food based bait with the usual glug, hard hookers and pop ups sold to compliment it. If the Tacklebox are putting there name to it you no it's going to half decent. 
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Not over priced per kg but looking at the site it's still same price for 5k so for £54 per 5k plus p&p they can poke it. Might well be a good bait but I'm guessing it's not that good. Plenty around for a lot cheaper
Not over priced per kg but looking at the site it's still same price for 5k so for £54 per 5k plus p&p they can poke it. Might well be a good bait but I'm guessing it's not that good. Plenty around for a lot cheaper
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now now isnt spa quality because it is expensive?
now now isnt spa quality because it is expensive?
Lads, not a sales pitch but I know all about this bait, it is rolled exclusively for the tackle box.
My mate had some of the pop ups last spring, fished on his own lake with no competition the fish picked up the tutti 4 bites out of 5 Against an established bait and other bright hookbaits.
May have been the colour don't know, If your into single hookbaits fishing might be worth a try.
My mate had some of the pop ups last spring, fished on his own lake with no competition the fish picked up the tutti 4 bites out of 5 Against an established bait and other bright hookbaits.
May have been the colour don't know, If your into single hookbaits fishing might be worth a try.
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might be worth a go it reads well but then so do alot of things.
i always thought that birdfood mixes were relatively simple this one looks less so
might be worth a go it reads well but then so do alot of things.
i always thought that birdfood mixes were relatively simple this one looks less so
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Judging from this thread I think some people may be surprised how many 'casual' anglers just walk into a shop and pick up a kilo of boilies off the shelf for a weekends angling. For many buying 5kg of boilies would seem insane and it's these types of anglers this bait is aimed at. Not a serious angler that uses 100kg of bait a season and will spend time on forums like this.
The bait will be around same price as most of the other baits in the shop and knowing tackle box, probably much better than most of them and the fact its one of the most recognisable flavours of all time will mean people will buy it.
Judging from this thread I think some people may be surprised how many 'casual' anglers just walk into a shop and pick up a kilo of boilies off the shelf for a weekends angling. For many buying 5kg of boilies would seem insane and it's these types of anglers this bait is aimed at. Not a serious angler that uses 100kg of bait a season and will spend time on forums like this.
The bait will be around same price as most of the other baits in the shop and knowing tackle box, probably much better than most of them and the fact its one of the most recognisable flavours of all time will mean people will buy it.
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How about if they roll the price back to what Richworth charged in 2014? ... £10.99 a kilo for Frozen Tutti
https://issuu.com/tigerbay/docs/the-tackle-box-catalogue-2014/84
And from I remember in the late 80's they were £5 for 500g!
How about if they roll the price back to what Richworth charged in 2014? ... £10.99 a kilo for Frozen Tutti
https://issuu.com/tigerbay/docs/the-tackle-box-catalogue-2014/84
And from I remember in the late 80's they were £5 for 500g!
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It is amazing how the real cost of bait still goes down year on year. I would love to remember what I paid for my first bag of frozen Richworth in about 1988 (a small bag at that) That bag lasted me a whole summer of fishing with ease 
It is amazing how the real cost of bait still goes down year on year. I would love to remember what I paid for my first bag of frozen Richworth in about 1988 (a small bag at that)
That bag lasted me a whole summer of fishing with ease
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From memory, I used to buy Richworth for £5 for a 500g bag in 1988 from Bob Morris Tackle, or "£5.50, £5 for cash" at The Tackle Box
And Premier Fishmix bought from Geoff direct from his van was £4 a kilo for basemix, £5 for 500ml of Fish Feed Inducing Oil, and £10 for 500ml of Nodd Oil. I think that Ni Nu Val was about £10 a kilo for basemix.
I have no idea why everyone now thinks that a decent bait should be £5 rolled with attractors now, especially as the pound is so much weaker today for buying ingredients that are imported.
From memory, I used to buy Richworth for £5 for a 500g bag in 1988 from Bob Morris Tackle, or "£5.50, £5 for cash" at The Tackle Box
And Premier Fishmix bought from Geoff direct from his van was £4 a kilo for basemix, £5 for 500ml of Fish Feed Inducing Oil, and £10 for 500ml of Nodd Oil. I think that Ni Nu Val was about £10 a kilo for basemix.
I have no idea why everyone now thinks that a decent bait should be £5 rolled with attractors now, especially as the pound is so much weaker today for buying ingredients that are imported.
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Exactly 👍
Exactly 👍
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Exactly
Exactly
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So £11 / kg in 1988 (RRP, not counting what cash deals you could get...my local shop didn't do cash deals) is the same as £17 in 2020. Any baits you can think of that cost £17/kg now?
As you say why do people now expect a decent bait for less?
In 1988 I purchased my second carbon carp rod. It was a top of the range Daiwa and cost me £99.99. That's £153 in today's money and yet people will spend well over £200 on a rod no problem
Not saying you shouldn't spend what you want on a rod but if you have to cut you spending somewhere then why on the bait?
So £11 / kg in 1988 (RRP, not counting what cash deals you could get...my local shop didn't do cash deals) is the same as £17 in 2020. Any baits you can think of that cost £17/kg now?
As you say why do people now expect a decent bait for less?
In 1988 I purchased my second carbon carp rod. It was a top of the range Daiwa and cost me £99.99. That's £153 in today's money and yet people will spend well over £200 on a rod no problem
Not saying you shouldn't spend what you want on a rod but if you have to cut you spending somewhere then why on the bait?
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Economy of scale and very different markets competition wise
How many tonnes were richworth moving then compared to one of the bigger companies now?
Economy of scale and very different markets competition wise
How many tonnes were richworth moving then compared to one of the bigger companies now?
Why are people comparing a soya/semo bait of years gone by to a new bait containing 13 ingredients, including 5 bird foods, 3 soluble milk proteins, 2 calf milk powders and a culture, just because they are both tutti fruity flavour. 
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There was more in tutti than semo and soya
There was more in tutti than semo and soya
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Yes. PRUTEEN, and a good sweetener.
But times change, the markets change, and ingredient supply chains change, and the tackle box have brought out their version.
I will have to check it out shortly, next time I'm in there.
Yes. PRUTEEN, and a good sweetener.
But times change, the markets change, and ingredient supply chains change, and the tackle box have brought out their version.
I will have to check it out shortly, next time I'm in there.
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Also different ingredients have gone up by much more than inflation. There used to be a massive surplus of milks, for example. Grains are much more expensive due to population growth and failing crops. Fish meals much more in demand due to fish farming........
Also different ingredients have gone up by much more than inflation. There used to be a massive surplus of milks, for example. Grains are much more expensive due to population growth and failing crops. Fish meals much more in demand due to fish farming........
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Yep, All these seasonal, and ongoing price changes have to be factored into the end cost of the effective bait, and still make a profit for it the be viable.
Maize, Ground rice used to be so cheap.
Look at the cost of real eggs now, basic egg biscuit birdfoods used to be cheap. Cede varies from £4 - £7 a kilo,
Robin red/ Spanish peppers are now as dear as High end milk proteins.
Years ago The cheese making process farmers with liquid whey, left a by-product, which at that time was almost a waste product, couldn't give it away. Cheese was the goal.
Then some clever wiz discovered you could use it to make a rather useful whey protein, which proved very popular for sports and Fitness, so maximising profits and minimalizing waste.
Yep, All these seasonal, and ongoing price changes have to be factored into the end cost of the effective bait, and still make a profit for it the be viable.
Maize, Ground rice used to be so cheap.
Look at the cost of real eggs now, basic egg biscuit birdfoods used to be cheap. Cede varies from £4 - £7 a kilo,
Robin red/ Spanish peppers are now as dear as High end milk proteins.
Years ago The cheese making process farmers with liquid whey, left a by-product, which at that time was almost a waste product, couldn't give it away. Cheese was the goal.
Then some clever wiz discovered you could use it to make a rather useful whey protein, which proved very popular for sports and Fitness, so maximising profits and minimalizing waste.
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With regards to people spending £200 on a rod, reel, tackle etc but wanting to pay £6 a kilo rather than £11 a kilo comes down to the fact when they finish their session they go home with their rod, reel etc but not their £11 a kilo bait
With regards to people spending £200 on a rod, reel, tackle etc but wanting to pay £6 a kilo rather than £11 a kilo comes down to the fact when they finish their session they go home with their rod, reel etc but not their £11 a kilo bait
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For me it ain't got anything to do with price of rod reel etc I no that the bait I'm on at 6 pound is a good bait it a lot more if I had to pay postage and didn't buy in bulk but like said before it could beamed at the walk in angler who only want a kilo every now and then and u would pay the same for other baits they could do a deal on bulk has any one asked
For me it ain't got anything to do with price of rod reel etc I no that the bait I'm on at 6 pound is a good bait it a lot more if I had to pay postage and didn't buy in bulk but like said before it could beamed at the walk in angler who only want a kilo every now and then and u would pay the same for other baits they could do a deal on bulk has any one asked
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This is a great point
How many bait boilers have coined the the line ‘people will think nothing of spending £200 on the latest rod but won't pay £8 a kilo for bait'
Don't know about you guys but I don't throw a rod in the lake twice a year, but I will spend more than £400 on bait every 12 months
Also a great point on the fact that a mainstream bait was also £10 a kilo 20 years ago, not a chance that the ingredients are still the same price so margins, although still decent with scale, are nowhere near what they were.
This is a great point
How many bait boilers have coined the the line ‘people will think nothing of spending £200 on the latest rod but won't pay £8 a kilo for bait'
Don't know about you guys but I don't throw a rod in the lake twice a year, but I will spend more than £400 on bait every 12 months
Also a great point on the fact that a mainstream bait was also £10 a kilo 20 years ago, not a chance that the ingredients are still the same price so margins, although still decent with scale, are nowhere near what they were.
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