Hi has anyone trapped Crays whilst on a session and used them for baiting up or on the barbie ?
In reply to Post #1
Not crayfish,but shot,skinned,rabbit and squirrel before now...
Guy who lives near me known as Road kill man,aka my old local school teacher, and ex world orienteering champ..does not buy food ,just picks it up on the local roads,freezes it....apparently otter tastes like beef,I don't know..
This is true,check out Arthur Boyt..on Google.. lol
Not crayfish,but shot,skinned,rabbit and squirrel before now...
Guy who lives near me known as Road kill man,aka my old local school teacher, and ex world orienteering champ..does not buy food ,just picks it up on the local roads,freezes it....apparently otter tastes like beef,I don't know..
This is true,check out Arthur Boyt..on Google.. lol
In reply to Post #2
Do you get much Otter roadkill ?
Do you get much Otter roadkill ?
In reply to Post #2
If that's the guy I'm thinking of, he's quite a strange chap. Hats off to him slicing and dicing road kill.
If that's the guy I'm thinking of, he's quite a strange chap. Hats off to him slicing and dicing road kill.
In reply to Post #3
Yes...
Yes...
So,I'm always out n about...last year,my dog was indicating something to me,I walk over to this thickett and see a young muntjac, caught up in some rusty wire,its leg awful,white bone clearly poking out..
The animal was in terrible distress...my gun was indoors..
So I go up the farm,speak to the farmers wife,she makes a call,by the time I get back down,two quadders.. have shot ,and skinned the deer,my dog had part of its leg....
The animal was in terrible distress...my gun was indoors..
So I go up the farm,speak to the farmers wife,she makes a call,by the time I get back down,two quadders.. have shot ,and skinned the deer,my dog had part of its leg....
In reply to Post #2
What a very odd reply to a question about crayfish. Nutter alert
To the OP - you need a licence from the EA to trap non-native crayfish in the UK. I believe the licence is free, but get caught without one and you risk prosecution. I actually know someone who got in hot water over this - he was trapping them for a club and selling them .
Unlike some, when I do get them, I put them back. Eating them, fine by me, but those stamping on them are just ****ers. I see it now and again, really gets my goat and it's always carp anglers I am sorry to say. I know they're a pain, but they still live there. You'd soon get the arse ache if people drop kicked carp back into the lake.
What a very odd reply to a question about crayfish. Nutter alert
To the OP - you need a licence from the EA to trap non-native crayfish in the UK. I believe the licence is free, but get caught without one and you risk prosecution. I actually know someone who got in hot water over this - he was trapping them for a club and selling them .
Unlike some, when I do get them, I put them back. Eating them, fine by me, but those stamping on them are just ****ers. I see it now and again, really gets my goat and it's always carp anglers I am sorry to say. I know they're a pain, but they still live there. You'd soon get the arse ache if people drop kicked carp back into the lake.
In reply to Post #1
Yes caught a few last week and put them on the BBQ, just ate the tails but they were very tasty.
Yes caught a few last week and put them on the BBQ, just ate the tails but they were very tasty.
In reply to Post #1
Unless the law has changed that's a questionable question to ask
You needed a license to trap Crays full stop, a odd law given its designed to protect white which are getting as rare as rhs thanks to the red invader but god bless RED tape
In answer to your question, on a water I was on they were caught for commercial purposes (sold to restaurants) but they needed starving for at least 3 days to 'flush' them through. Also better to flush in fresh water to get rid of earthy taste.
Baiting, yes they work but by god do thet attract their own.
They like steep banks where they burrow, on a sunny day they will sit at the entrance like any good predator, looking for a opportunity. I do know if you can spot them you can dazzle them with sun from a mirror and you can pick them out, didn't believe it till I saw it.
On a French water I was on the locals used washing machine drums to catch them, then they put some logs in it and cooked them on the top!
Edit, if the margins are shallow and you leave your net in it, its surprising what discarded boilies attract!
Unless the law has changed that's a questionable question to ask
You needed a license to trap Crays full stop, a odd law given its designed to protect white which are getting as rare as rhs thanks to the red invader but god bless RED tape
In answer to your question, on a water I was on they were caught for commercial purposes (sold to restaurants) but they needed starving for at least 3 days to 'flush' them through. Also better to flush in fresh water to get rid of earthy taste.
Baiting, yes they work but by god do thet attract their own.
They like steep banks where they burrow, on a sunny day they will sit at the entrance like any good predator, looking for a opportunity. I do know if you can spot them you can dazzle them with sun from a mirror and you can pick them out, didn't believe it till I saw it.
On a French water I was on the locals used washing machine drums to catch them, then they put some logs in it and cooked them on the top!
Edit, if the margins are shallow and you leave your net in it, its surprising what discarded boilies attract!
In reply to Post #7
Show a bit more respect please to a fellow forum user and angler. This Isn't school, why not go off piste and discuss other food to forage?
Show a bit more respect please to a fellow forum user and angler. This Isn't school, why not go off piste and discuss other food to forage?
In reply to Post #10
Here we go, evening Snowflake, how's your day been
Here we go, evening Snowflake, how's your day been
In reply to Post #7
No,not a nutter,...merely pointing out food sources are out there which are free,tasty and most likely more good for you..
Did you know crayfish,non native have reduced the native population of this countries indigenous crayfish..so hats off to anyone who likes a mini lobster on the bank ,tasty...
No,not a nutter,...merely pointing out food sources are out there which are free,tasty and most likely more good for you..
Did you know crayfish,non native have reduced the native population of this countries indigenous crayfish..so hats off to anyone who likes a mini lobster on the bank ,tasty...
In reply to Post #12
Fair dinkim mate. Had me worried there Yeah and that is a crying shame - signal crays seem to be everywhere these days.
Fair dinkim mate. Had me worried there
Yeah and that is a crying shame - signal crays seem to be everywhere these days.
In reply to Post #13
I live in a rural place,so my life and experience is a lot different to others ,I do know one thing...I'd live much ,much longer than most others,as I can hunt,fish to eat,forage and make shelters,...
Where as,in a city,...in a shtf scenario....that would be challenging,..as you can imagine....hence my long term interest in Bush craft and survivalist..
Remember,ina town or city your rely on others,myself,I would rely on myself,big difference...👍
I live in a rural place,so my life and experience is a lot different to others ,I do know one thing...I'd live much ,much longer than most others,as I can hunt,fish to eat,forage and make shelters,...
Where as,in a city,...in a shtf scenario....that would be challenging,..as you can imagine....hence my long term interest in Bush craft and survivalist..
Remember,ina town or city your rely on others,myself,I would rely on myself,big difference...👍
In reply to Post #12
Again, not on post but my Mrs used to travel the 'over Alderley' road on her way to work in Macclesfield and a stretch was/is known as death Valley. I used to ask her to pick up 'road kill' when she worked Saturdays and it was quiet. Our Dachs used to love it, I didn't much like it when perfectly good looking Rabbit was all but crushed inside but looking mint outside.
Got to say the Dachs didnt see a fair few Pheasant
Again, not on post but my Mrs used to travel the 'over Alderley' road on her way to work in Macclesfield and a stretch was/is known as death Valley. I used to ask her to pick up 'road kill' when she worked Saturdays and it was quiet. Our Dachs used to love it, I didn't much like it when perfectly good looking Rabbit was all but crushed inside but looking mint outside.
Got to say the Dachs didnt see a fair few Pheasant
In reply to Post #11
Great, how was yours
Great, how was yours
Nowt wrong with a bit of roadkill as in Deer, Pheasant or Rabbit if it bounces of the vehicle in front or your own so at least you know it's fresh, cut away the hemorrhaged meat bit tough when its gone into shock.
In reply to Post #3
saw one om the M4 last week
saw one om the M4 last week
In reply to Post #18
Probably not the best place to stop and retrieve it.
Probably not the best place to stop and retrieve it.
In reply to Post #7
Thank you for the information about the licence, will apply beforehand.
Thank you for the information about the licence, will apply beforehand.
In reply to Post #7
I was under the impression it was illegal to return a non-native species back into the water?
I was under the impression it was illegal to return a non-native species back into the water?
In reply to Post #20
All the info you need can be found here
https://lfcc.org.uk/downloads/category/18-environmental?download=62:crayfish-trapping-guide
All the info you need can be found here
https://lfcc.org.uk/downloads/category/18-environmental?download=62:crayfish-trapping-guide
In reply to Post #22
And thank you also. Nice to be guided towards being able to make an informed decision 👍
And thank you also. Nice to be guided towards being able to make an informed decision 👍
In reply to Post #1
When we 1st went to Ruidera in Castilla La Mancha Spain to fish for the Comizo barbel we were using halibut pellets and boillies and getting slaughtered by the crayfish but if your bait stayed intact long enough you could get a bite
but the locals seemed to be oufishing us big style
eventually one showed us there local method .....get a size 2 hook and superglue a peice of foam to the back it and then superglue this onto the back of a live 2" or 3" live crayfish so the hook was stuck up like a fin if that makes sense
then row this out and drop over your baited area ....seemed cruel to us at the time so we never used it ....the locals just shrugged there shoulders laughed at us and carried on outfishing us ...it did account for alot of massive Comizo upto 35LB whilst we were there ..... might be a good method for catfish / pike / barbel but not sure if it would be legal in the UK ...
When we 1st went to Ruidera in Castilla La Mancha Spain to fish for the Comizo barbel we were using halibut pellets and boillies and getting slaughtered by the crayfish but if your bait stayed intact long enough you could get a bite
but the locals seemed to be oufishing us big style
eventually one showed us there local method .....get a size 2 hook and superglue a peice of foam to the back it and then superglue this onto the back of a live 2" or 3" live crayfish so the hook was stuck up like a fin if that makes sense
then row this out and drop over your baited area ....seemed cruel to us at the time so we never used it ....the locals just shrugged there shoulders laughed at us and carried on outfishing us ...it did account for alot of massive Comizo upto 35LB whilst we were there ..... might be a good method for catfish / pike / barbel but not sure if it would be legal in the UK ...
In reply to Post #24
One to run by your Baliff/fishery owner trying to keep a straight face I think.
One to run by your Baliff/fishery owner trying to keep a straight face I think.
In reply to Post #9
After the otter being trapped and dying in a crayfish trap on The Wensum recently, make sure you have the correct license if trapping cray's. There's bound to be more checks and you don't want to be accused of something you're not up to.
After the otter being trapped and dying in a crayfish trap on The Wensum recently, make sure you have the correct license if trapping cray's. There's bound to be more checks and you don't want to be accused of something you're not up to.
In reply to Post #24
If the fishery allows livebaiting for pike, I don't see why it wouldn't be allowed. As long as the bait was caught from that water and not brought in from elsewhere.
If the fishery allows livebaiting for pike, I don't see why it wouldn't be allowed. As long as the bait was caught from that water and not brought in from elsewhere.
In reply to Post #24
To quote the gov.uk website (under fishing bylaws 'The use of crayfish, dead or alive, as bait or in bait is prohibited'. I wonder if anyone ever told Nashbaits about this? I also wonder why this law exists?
To quote the gov.uk website (under fishing bylaws 'The use of crayfish, dead or alive, as bait or in bait is prohibited'. I wonder if anyone ever told Nashbaits about this? I also wonder why this law exists?
In reply to Post #27
As Bugner says, it is illegal to return non-native crays to the water course.
It is also illegal to use them as bait in the UK.
As Bugner says, it is illegal to return non-native crays to the water course.
It is also illegal to use them as bait in the UK.
In reply to Post #29
So in conclusion BBQ fine, spod mix not.
So in conclusion BBQ fine, spod mix not.
In reply to Post #29
I wasn't aware of that. I've learnt something today. So does everyone who accidentally catches a Cray on their bait kill them and dispose of them?
I wasn't aware of that. I've learnt something today. So does everyone who accidentally catches a Cray on their bait kill them and dispose of them?
In reply to Post #30
I'll carry on eating them then
I'll carry on eating them then
In reply to Post #31
It is the same with a Grey Squirrell. If you catch one (obvioulsy on a nut based rig
) , illegal to release it as a non-native species.
It is the same with a Grey Squirrell. If you catch one (obvioulsy on a nut based rig
) , illegal to release it as a non-native species.
So would it be okay to sit there throwing crayfish on a BBQ if you've got a licence then, which I'm assuming is dependent on the fishery?
Would be the nuts 😁
Would be the nuts 😁
In reply to Post #31
When fishing the matches on Loch Ken most competitors squash crayfish on their seatbox footplate with their boot.
Crayfish infestation are variable ,some years are very much worse than others ....this year it has been extremely noticeable on the River Trent.
When fishing the matches on Loch Ken most competitors squash crayfish on their seatbox footplate with their boot.
Crayfish infestation are variable ,some years are very much worse than others ....this year it has been extremely noticeable on the River Trent.
I got permission to trap them on a reservoir i had a ticket on. Bought a trap looked into the licence then lockdown came. My Mrs loves em so would have been a win win for me.
In reply to Post #30
Its probably a very old law meant for the native crayfish, not these mutant beasts that seem to pop up in every puddle these days.
Its probably a very old law meant for the native crayfish, not these mutant beasts that seem to pop up in every puddle these days.
In reply to Post #37
Yes its hard to see why it shouldn't be open season on the invaders.
Yes its hard to see why it shouldn't be open season on the invaders.
In reply to Post #38
I caught 4200 in one day. Tipping out the bins into a boat on the bank, they filled up the 245.
I caught 4200 in one day. Tipping out the bins into a boat on the bank, they filled up the 245.
In reply to Post #39
Ye God's Lobstergeddon.
Ye God's Lobstergeddon.
In reply to Post #39
You'd need a big bbq for that lot
You'd need a big bbq for that lot
In reply to Post #40
The most frustrating thing was there was no local market for them. I never really got tapped into the Scandinavian market due to the EU stopping transport of Signals, as INNS, across member states.
The most frustrating thing was there was no local market for them. I never really got tapped into the Scandinavian market due to the EU stopping transport of Signals, as INNS, across member states.
In reply to Post #31
They should do but I'm sure plenty don't... it can seem a bit brutal to stamp on them!
Signals carry a fungal disease called “crayfish plague”, the spores of which can survive for weeks after the host is dead. The ban on using it as bait is aimed towards preventing the spread of this plague to other waters.
A guy used to trap them on my syndicate until earlier this year. I didn't think one chap, half heartedly trapping on his own would be making much impact, but the difference has been surprisingly noticeable... they're A LOT worse already and it's only been a few months.
They should do but I'm sure plenty don't... it can seem a bit brutal to stamp on them!
Signals carry a fungal disease called “crayfish plague”, the spores of which can survive for weeks after the host is dead. The ban on using it as bait is aimed towards preventing the spread of this plague to other waters.
A guy used to trap them on my syndicate until earlier this year. I didn't think one chap, half heartedly trapping on his own would be making much impact, but the difference has been surprisingly noticeable... they're A LOT worse already and it's only been a few months.
The problem with crayfish trapping unless it is constantly maintained for years is that it is mainly the larger specimens that get captured.
These larger one's diet consist mainly of juvenile crayfish thus a glut of smaller crays survive to do more damage.
This happens exactly the same when large pike and reptilians are removed.
These larger one's diet consist mainly of juvenile crayfish thus a glut of smaller crays survive to do more damage.
This happens exactly the same when large pike and reptilians are removed.
In reply to Post #44
That's just not true. It's possible to absolutely decimate numbers in one season from lakes and rivers. I was able to prove the colour in the water and the downturn in ecological conditions was directly attributable to crayfish. Following an extensive trapping campaign the conditions improve.
That's just not true. It's possible to absolutely decimate numbers in one season from lakes and rivers. I was able to prove the colour in the water and the downturn in ecological conditions was directly attributable to crayfish. Following an extensive trapping campaign the conditions improve.
In reply to Post #45
Surely this depends on the size of the water and the number of incumbent crays ?
Surely this depends on the size of the water and the number of incumbent crays ?
In reply to Post #46
As we used to say at school....'der'
As we used to say at school....'der'
In reply to Post #45
Whatever !
Whatever !
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