After a 10 year break im finally getting back on the bank.
Now clearly in this time mobile phones have come a long way especially the camera and it appears the latest "carpy" trends on all the videos is to have the latest SLR with big lens (Korda Boys).
I don't own a SLR and ideally I don't want to spend £500 + on one but in reality can a smart phone do an adequate job at self takes day and night?
I know there are cheap tripods and Bluetooth devices on amazon to make self takes easy so I was going to start there first
any feedback would be welcomed before I go out and spend any money.
Now clearly in this time mobile phones have come a long way especially the camera and it appears the latest "carpy" trends on all the videos is to have the latest SLR with big lens (Korda Boys).
I don't own a SLR and ideally I don't want to spend £500 + on one but in reality can a smart phone do an adequate job at self takes day and night?
I know there are cheap tripods and Bluetooth devices on amazon to make self takes easy so I was going to start there first
any feedback would be welcomed before I go out and spend any money.
In reply to Post #1
iPhone and a banksick with a bracket taped to it.
that's all I use, download an app called ''whistle camera'' Set your frame up holding an imaginary fish, take a test snap to see if its framed correctly.
then hold the fish and repeat.
EZ PZ
iPhone and a banksick with a bracket taped to it.
that's all I use, download an app called ''whistle camera'' Set your frame up holding an imaginary fish, take a test snap to see if its framed correctly.
then hold the fish and repeat.
EZ PZ
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I use my phone for the club lake I'm on as it's only days. The lighter my kit the better. I use photo timer+ on iPhone, just an intervalometer. Then prop my phone up on a bucket, backpack and sandwich it between 2 pop up containers, does the job.
I use my phone for the club lake I'm on as it's only days. The lighter my kit the better. I use photo timer+ on iPhone, just an intervalometer. Then prop my phone up on a bucket, backpack and sandwich it between 2 pop up containers, does the job.
A dedicated camera is always going to grab more light which equates to more information, detail etc.
It all depends on what you want. Are you looking for decent pics and not intending to get anything published? If it's the former, a good quality phone camera is more than good enough. Some of them are mind blowingly good with 4k resolution too!
From what I've seen, the Google pixel has the best camera. There are other phones that you can get similar results with using Google's camera software like the OnePlus pro's. If you want to pay big money for an iphone then go for it.
It all depends on what you want. Are you looking for decent pics and not intending to get anything published? If it's the former, a good quality phone camera is more than good enough. Some of them are mind blowingly good with 4k resolution too!
From what I've seen, the Google pixel has the best camera. There are other phones that you can get similar results with using Google's camera software like the OnePlus pro's. If you want to pay big money for an iphone then go for it.
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Buy a dslr and learn how to use it. If you want good pictures you cant really compare a dslr to a camera phone imo
Buy a dslr and learn how to use it. If you want good pictures you cant really compare a dslr to a camera phone imo
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Try taking a decent shot at night with a phone and you'll see that a camera is the only way to go buddy. The sensor on a phone is simply not big enough to collect enough light at night. You'll get very poor grainy images.
Try taking a decent shot at night with a phone and you'll see that a camera is the only way to go buddy. The sensor on a phone is simply not big enough to collect enough light at night. You'll get very poor grainy images.
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That might have been the case some years back, things have moved on since. I think you'll be surprised by how much. Illuminate the subject well and you'll be all good.
I use both a DSLR and phone
That might have been the case some years back, things have moved on since. I think you'll be surprised by how much. Illuminate the subject well and you'll be all good.
I use both a DSLR and phone
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I'm not happy with a phone camera in good light, never mind bad light/harsh light/no light
The 40mp raw images out of my huawei have less info than a jpeg out of a 16mp camera, sounds good on paper tho
I'm not happy with a phone camera in good light, never mind bad light/harsh light/no light
The 40mp raw images out of my huawei have less info than a jpeg out of a 16mp camera, sounds good on paper tho
Have to agree with most here, a cheap second hand slr will give superior photos to a top of the range phone, particularly at night.
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. .check out the Panasonic Lumix G85 . . 16mp / mirrorless / weather proof / 3" flip screen / pop up flash / integrated intervalometer . . .
Currently very tempted . . !
. .check out the Panasonic Lumix G85 . . 16mp / mirrorless / weather proof / 3" flip screen / pop up flash / integrated intervalometer . . .
Currently very tempted . . !
In reply to Post #8
Maybe the phone hardware software combo is just pony on your phone?
For the life of me I can't remember the names of the package that you install, there's Google's pixel software that people rave about and what makes the pixel such a good phone for pictures. Maybe you can have a dig around and install the same package and see if that helps? Or just tin your crap phone and get a proper one
You know that pixel amounts don't always relate to better pictures at night don't you? Bigger isn't necessarily better. There's a bunch of dslr cameras that I can think of that are 12 megapixels that'll turn night into day which will blow your mind the capabilities of.
Maybe the phone hardware software combo is just pony on your phone?
For the life of me I can't remember the names of the package that you install, there's Google's pixel software that people rave about and what makes the pixel such a good phone for pictures. Maybe you can have a dig around and install the same package and see if that helps? Or just tin your crap phone and get a proper one
You know that pixel amounts don't always relate to better pictures at night don't you? Bigger isn't necessarily better. There's a bunch of dslr cameras that I can think of that are 12 megapixels that'll turn night into day which will blow your mind the capabilities of.
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It's a very good camera, I'm not sure on costs or features of other models, but for future proofing the 20mp models are a step up
@teecee, using lightroom on a computer is a waste of time with phone pics, and 40 mpix is nonsense when the lens quality and diffraction only give you about 4mp worth of detail.
A lot of the camera apps are composting multiple images to generate one picture, but that isn't going to cut it in many situations. Everyone will have their own quality threshold tho so if your happy with a phone then carry on
It's a very good camera, I'm not sure on costs or features of other models, but for future proofing the 20mp models are a step up
@teecee, using lightroom on a computer is a waste of time with phone pics, and 40 mpix is nonsense when the lens quality and diffraction only give you about 4mp worth of detail.
A lot of the camera apps are composting multiple images to generate one picture, but that isn't going to cut it in many situations. Everyone will have their own quality threshold tho so if your happy with a phone then carry on
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That's such a good point you make duggs about what people are happy with. My brother will only watch something on the telly that's 4k. Put hd in.front of him and he starts pulling a funny face. Myself on the other hand am quite happy with hd, 720 or whatever. Just as long as I can make out what's going on I'm cool
I have got a high end DSLR which I use and I've got a decent phone which takes exceptional pictures and video. Depends what I'm doing. Lugging about a DSLR and various different lenses just isn't the one stalking, going out this weekend I'll have both, and more that likely use the DSLR if I actually catch something, which is rarer than a rare thing.
That's such a good point you make duggs about what people are happy with. My brother will only watch something on the telly that's 4k. Put hd in.front of him and he starts pulling a funny face. Myself on the other hand am quite happy with hd, 720 or whatever. Just as long as I can make out what's going on I'm cool
I have got a high end DSLR which I use and I've got a decent phone which takes exceptional pictures and video. Depends what I'm doing. Lugging about a DSLR and various different lenses just isn't the one stalking, going out this weekend I'll have both, and more that likely use the DSLR if I actually catch something, which is rarer than a rare thing.
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Thankfully there are loads of great options a lot smaller than high end dslrs
Thankfully there are loads of great options a lot smaller than high end dslrs
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Indeed
Indeed
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I actively promote my Instagram page right now, so as you might imagine, I always need to have high-quality photos. And an iPhone camera is a real blessing for me. Sometimes I go far away to take a good shot, or can just be on my feet all day long. So I can't imagine myself going somewhere with a camera, because it's just not convenient. Only once, there's a bad moment when I smashed the phone, but my sister told me about changement d'ecran iphone paris, so everything turned out fine. Btw, the iPhone night mode is just incredible. Don't understand how someone may dislike it.
I actively promote my Instagram page right now, so as you might imagine, I always need to have high-quality photos. And an iPhone camera is a real blessing for me. Sometimes I go far away to take a good shot, or can just be on my feet all day long. So I can't imagine myself going somewhere with a camera, because it's just not convenient. Only once, there's a bad moment when I smashed the phone, but my sister told me about changement d'ecran iphone paris, so everything turned out fine. Btw, the iPhone night mode is just incredible. Don't understand how someone may dislike it.
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Unless you feel the need to have picture perfect photos then personally I wouldn't bother with a separate camera.
Phones nowadays can take great pictures, I use a phone popper on the back of my phone with a bank stick and rod rest.
If it's at night then just add a separate light, which we all carry anyway. My photos are for nostalgia so I dont get too worked up about having picture perfect photos, each to their own though
Unless you feel the need to have picture perfect photos then personally I wouldn't bother with a separate camera.
Phones nowadays can take great pictures, I use a phone popper on the back of my phone with a bank stick and rod rest.
If it's at night then just add a separate light, which we all carry anyway. My photos are for nostalgia so I dont get too worked up about having picture perfect photos, each to their own though
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A proper camera is always going to come out on top here. You wouldn't need a high end, big dslr to get brilliant trophy shots though. A second hand Nikon D5000 series or Canon equivalent and a 35 or 50mm prime is more than adequate for most tastes. Those combos could be picked up easily for £200-300.
I was surprised at the quality I got out of my IPhone earlier this year though. This was a very rushed self take, phone balanced on a chair propped up on a maggot box. Far from camera quality, but quite impressive nonetheless
A proper camera is always going to come out on top here. You wouldn't need a high end, big dslr to get brilliant trophy shots though. A second hand Nikon D5000 series or Canon equivalent and a 35 or 50mm prime is more than adequate for most tastes. Those combos could be picked up easily for £200-300.
I was surprised at the quality I got out of my IPhone earlier this year though. This was a very rushed self take, phone balanced on a chair propped up on a maggot box. Far from camera quality, but quite impressive nonetheless
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I did have an 11pro for a while, very good lenses and used with a bluetooth remote and smart phone clamp, took very decent pictures, much better than ANY smart phone I'd ever used in fact. No replacement for a good DLSR and a Prime Lens... but when I wanted to travel light, say if I was lure fishing or stalking, was a very neat set-up. Just screwed the clamp onto a bank stick. I recently replaced it with the latest 13pro max and that's even better. I often use my iPhone for adhoc snaps when fishing, like this bee... you can see how good things are getting.
I did have an 11pro for a while, very good lenses and used with a bluetooth remote and smart phone clamp, took very decent pictures, much better than ANY smart phone I'd ever used in fact. No replacement for a good DLSR and a Prime Lens... but when I wanted to travel light, say if I was lure fishing or stalking, was a very neat set-up. Just screwed the clamp onto a bank stick. I recently replaced it with the latest 13pro max and that's even better. I often use my iPhone for adhoc snaps when fishing, like this bee... you can see how good things are getting.
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i much prefer my Canon SLR, but understand why people use their phones due to them being small and pretty good to be fair, in saying that, there nothing better than an SLR in my book
i much prefer my Canon SLR, but understand why people use their phones due to them being small and pretty good to be fair, in saying that, there nothing better than an SLR in my book
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Mirrorless cameras are the future,the Sony a7 range are amazing.Im just debating on pre-ordering the mk4,a mate of mine uses the mk3 for all his wedding photography.They are lighter,smaller and better technology than the dslr's and have a good range in lenses now too 👍
Mirrorless cameras are the future,the Sony a7 range are amazing.Im just debating on pre-ordering the mk4,a mate of mine uses the mk3 for all his wedding photography.They are lighter,smaller and better technology than the dslr's and have a good range in lenses now too 👍
In reply to Post #21
I have a dslr and for me its all part of the experience of going fishing.
I have a dslr and for me its all part of the experience of going fishing.
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I think some of these have in-body image stabilisation, which can be very useful in low light situations.
I think some of these have in-body image stabilisation, which can be very useful in low light situations.
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The size advantage is overstated tbh, in a lot of cases the mirrorless kit can end up bigger overall
I'm not fussed having the latest bodies, I'd rather buy them 18 months-2 years later and put the grand I've saved to use on lenses. Specs get hyped massively but there isn't usually a huge difference in one generation
The size advantage is overstated tbh, in a lot of cases the mirrorless kit can end up bigger overall
I'm not fussed having the latest bodies, I'd rather buy them 18 months-2 years later and put the grand I've saved to use on lenses. Specs get hyped massively but there isn't usually a huge difference in one generation
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That's an interesting camera the a7IV, a sort of hybrid. The IV bridges between the a7sIII but with a higher pixel count more adept for daytime pictures, although the a7III is just as capable.
I don't know what you plan to use it for, if you do get one, try using the movie mode. For me personally, I just love what the A7s series does with video, the results are truly stunning, warm and inviting, nothing I've seen thus far come even close. Been a long time Canon user and have no need to go back to them as I much prefer Sony, especially so on the video side of things. Sony a7 cameras are a winner for me.
That's an interesting camera the a7IV, a sort of hybrid. The IV bridges between the a7sIII but with a higher pixel count more adept for daytime pictures, although the a7III is just as capable.
I don't know what you plan to use it for, if you do get one, try using the movie mode. For me personally, I just love what the A7s series does with video, the results are truly stunning, warm and inviting, nothing I've seen thus far come even close. Been a long time Canon user and have no need to go back to them as I much prefer Sony, especially so on the video side of things. Sony a7 cameras are a winner for me.
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They are superb aren't they
They are superb aren't they
I don't use it too much,but I got a old four thirds mirrorless Lumix g3..
If I videoed ,say myself..with a nice fish ,how would be able to make a picture ,or still ?
Cheers
If I videoed ,say myself..with a nice fish ,how would be able to make a picture ,or still ?
Cheers
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See here
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tZup--tpyzk
Alternatively, use whatever software you like 👌
See here
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tZup--tpyzk
Alternatively, use whatever software you like 👌
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Thanks very much TC,shall look into this..
Thanks very much TC,shall look into this..
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As said you take it where you want to if you want to experiment with photography and get quality pics get a DSLR still believe a good lens beats what the newest phone can offer and I've got a D7100 nikon (old DSLR) and the new Samsung Galaxy Ultra 22 which is the best mobile phone camera on the current market still prefer the camera....
Photography is gripping but if you have no interest then stick to your phone.
Photography is gripping but if you have no interest then stick to your phone.
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Could you share more please?
Could you share more please?
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Are you an echo or a bot
Are you an echo or a bot
In reply to Post #25
Agreed, Long time a Sony user and currently using the Sony A1 which I can vouch, is a beast of a camera for both stills and 8k video. Yes, phones are gaining ground, but only because there's a lot of ground for them to gain. The gap was a cavern. They will never compete with the versatility of an outright pro camera, especially with night shooting. But you wouldn't expect them to TBF.
Agreed, Long time a Sony user and currently using the Sony A1 which I can vouch, is a beast of a camera for both stills and 8k video. Yes, phones are gaining ground, but only because there's a lot of ground for them to gain. The gap was a cavern. They will never compete with the versatility of an outright pro camera, especially with night shooting. But you wouldn't expect them to TBF.
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