When factoring in calculations for depths of lakes, distance, braid vs mono (that stretches), is there a formula you work to? For example, if you were fishing a pit with depths of say 10/20/30ft and at 25/50/75/100 yards. Interested to know if anyone calculates these factors after finishing marker work on a swim before banging out their traps and being 100% confident you're on your spot(s).
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The easiest way I've found to be spot on every time is to use another marker float on a separate rod and adjust the wraps to suit the depth of water and swing back. Too many variables to come up with a formulae as such, distance, depth, line stretch or lack of bow in line due to breeze et al.
The easiest way I've found to be spot on every time is to use another marker float on a separate rod and adjust the wraps to suit the depth of water and swing back. Too many variables to come up with a formulae as such, distance, depth, line stretch or lack of bow in line due to breeze et al.
I don't bait that tight or use rigs that need a super clean bottom, so as long as I'm in the area and get a drop I'm happy that I'm close enough. Wrap sticks are handy, but a lot of over thinking goes on.
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Intuition, common sense and a feel for the situation - job done.
Intuition, common sense and a feel for the situation - job done.
somewhere on here there is a massive thread on it, someone did some maths and physics and worked it all out, in theory anyway, without variables. Or watch the Rob Hughes underwater video on it.
Me, I tend to not fish anywhere over 12ft deep so I make no adjustments, my hookbait ends up towards the front of the spot with the bulk of the bait behind it keeping feeding mostly clear of the line.
Me, I tend to not fish anywhere over 12ft deep so I make no adjustments, my hookbait ends up towards the front of the spot with the bulk of the bait behind it keeping feeding mostly clear of the line.
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You're lucky. Where I fish 12 ft is one and a half rod lengths out!
You're lucky. Where I fish 12 ft is one and a half rod lengths out!
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The fish dont know its 12 ft.
The fish dont know its 12 ft.
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Still relying on pub chucks then mate?
Still relying on pub chucks then mate?
I'm surprised not to hear more that would advocate this approach of precision given there is a lot of effort that goes into feature finding, therefore, I would have thought being precise would be important.
Just read an article by Rob Hughes on this. Imo it's very interesting. Might have to ditch my waders and get a scuba diving set up.
I can see why bait boats are used when you want to be as precise as possible, but for me, unless it's getting your trap in a place that you can't cast to makes it unappealing hence the idea of casting with precision.
Just read an article by Rob Hughes on this. Imo it's very interesting. Might have to ditch my waders and get a scuba diving set up.
I can see why bait boats are used when you want to be as precise as possible, but for me, unless it's getting your trap in a place that you can't cast to makes it unappealing hence the idea of casting with precision.
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Me, I tend to not fish anywhere over 12ft deep so I make no adjustments, my hookbait ends up towards the front of the spot with the bulk of the bait behind it keeping feeding mostly clear of the line.
Very much the way I do things myself.
Me, I tend to not fish anywhere over 12ft deep so I make no adjustments, my hookbait ends up towards the front of the spot with the bulk of the bait behind it keeping feeding mostly clear of the line.
Very much the way I do things myself.
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Google Pythagoras therom, trig.
100m out in 3m of water, hypotanuse is 100.04m, not with worrying about for me
Google Pythagoras therom, trig.
100m out in 3m of water, hypotanuse is 100.04m, not with worrying about for me
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Of course they are loads of variables and they vary on each individual cast so I thought **** it I'll just used pythagoras and came up with what Scozza has said
Then Rob Hughes done his Fox underwater videos and proved that more or less that to be true, that's good enough for me, gives me more time to worry about other things
Of course they are loads of variables and they vary on each individual cast so I thought **** it I'll just used pythagoras and came up with what Scozza has said
Then Rob Hughes done his Fox underwater videos and proved that more or less that to be true, that's good enough for me, gives me more time to worry about other things
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Same here, I'll also add that the pivot point is only partially at the rod tip. Even on a tightish line, there will be an additional pivot point where the line enters the water. I also use pva foam and can see where this rises to the surface and on a calm day with no undertow that let's the foam rise straight up and seeing where it is in relation to the marker...I'm now confident I'm accurate enough
Same here, I'll also add that the pivot point is only partially at the rod tip. Even on a tightish line, there will be an additional pivot point where the line enters the water. I also use pva foam and can see where this rises to the surface and on a calm day with no undertow that let's the foam rise straight up and seeing where it is in relation to the marker...I'm now confident I'm accurate enough
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Tried and tested mate! You know the score!
Tried and tested mate! You know the score!
**** me you have to be a genius these days to fish for carp !!!!!!
1ft for every 3ft of depth is what I use. Important to me as the average depth of the lake I fish is 35ft. All I do is take a rod length off the spod rod.
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