This stuff has a very good reputation from what I have read.
In your opinion is it drastically different in quality to the cheaper base mixes out there at 6 quid a kilo ?
Thanks.
In your opinion is it drastically different in quality to the cheaper base mixes out there at 6 quid a kilo ?
Thanks.
In reply to Post #1
yes
yes
In reply to Post #1
Yes
Yes
Thanks folks.
That's what I wanted to hear. Need an edge on the hard estate lake I am fishing.
That's what I wanted to hear. Need an edge on the hard estate lake I am fishing.
I'm using his stuff at the minute. I'm new to bait rolling but his stuff rolled a dream first time. I spoke to JB at length about a bait and he couldn't help enough. He told me About the core ingredients and why they where included etc. Being new to rolling bait I honestly couldn't tell you if it's great or 2 quids worth
But what I do have is confidence in JB having spoke to him about various things he really knows his stuff and that's good enough for me. I would use his stuff with confidence
In reply to Post #1
Your confidently buying a high quality product.
You could buy the ingredients in and get a bait rolling company to roll it for you, the price per kg is getting towards shop prices (not the cheap stuff!) but you'll have ultra high quality bait you can rely on.
Your confidently buying a high quality product.
You could buy the ingredients in and get a bait rolling company to roll it for you, the price per kg is getting towards shop prices (not the cheap stuff!) but you'll have ultra high quality bait you can rely on.
In reply to Post #6
Very good stuff that mr baker produces. Proper basemix with good ingredients, wish more companies would take note.
Very good stuff that mr baker produces. Proper basemix with good ingredients, wish more companies would take note.
In reply to Post #7
Had some good advice from Mr Baker, in the past
Funny thing though ,,, going off topic abit, but JB strongly advocates the use of minute levels of flavour, as his flavours are very strong, both for feed & hookbaits. Max 1.5 - 2ml was recommended, but i decided to do 2 batches of popups, one at the recommended flavour level, and the other with 5X times
the recommended dosage
Fished side by side, since the start of the season, results so far :-
1X flavour level = 5% catch rate
5X flavour level = 95% catch rate
Carp in this lake are known to respond better to over - flavoured
Had some good advice from Mr Baker, in the past
Funny thing though ,,, going off topic abit, but JB strongly advocates the use of minute levels of flavour, as his flavours are very strong, both for feed & hookbaits. Max 1.5 - 2ml was recommended, but i decided to do 2 batches of popups, one at the recommended flavour level, and the other with 5X times
Fished side by side, since the start of the season, results so far :-
1X flavour level = 5% catch rate
5X flavour level = 95% catch rate
Carp in this lake are known to respond better to over - flavoured
I would not hesitate to recommend John Baker bait.
I emailed him and described the lake I fish, the stock, and what most people do, and he emailed me back with advice re base mix and flavour combinations which worked really well. His gear isn't cheap, but he doesn't advocate the use of large quantities, so it's a cost effective choice at the end of the day.
I emailed him and described the lake I fish, the stock, and what most people do, and he emailed me back with advice re base mix and flavour combinations which worked really well. His gear isn't cheap, but he doesn't advocate the use of large quantities, so it's a cost effective choice at the end of the day.
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Fished side by side, since the start of the season, results so far :-
1X flavour level = 5% catch rate
5X flavour level = 95% catch rate
Wow ... that is a bit of a interesting preference!
But his flavour/attractors are top notch
Fished side by side, since the start of the season, results so far :-
1X flavour level = 5% catch rate
5X flavour level = 95% catch rate
Wow ... that is a bit of a interesting preference!
But his flavour/attractors are top notch
I think I will give his bio shellfish mix ago.
Luckily for me he is based 30 minutes away which has got to be better than buying from a shop that could have low turnover of stock.
Luckily for me he is based 30 minutes away which has got to be better than buying from a shop that could have low turnover of stock.
In reply to Post #10
Been mixing his flavours for a while now. I love using his Dairy Cream as a base when making a creamy flavour mix.
I have also mixed a flavour called Craba Salar, guess what is in that lol.
Been mixing his flavours for a while now. I love using his Dairy Cream as a base when making a creamy flavour mix.
I have also mixed a flavour called Craba Salar, guess what is in that lol.
Nice gear but well over-priced IMO
In reply to Post #12
Milky1 is the one for me! That stuff is pure dynamite and his plum is the best around imho.
Milky1 is the one for me! That stuff is pure dynamite and his plum is the best around imho.
In reply to Post #14
I am yet to have a play with Milky 1. What is the difference between that and Dairy Cream?
I am yet to have a play with Milky 1. What is the difference between that and Dairy Cream?
In reply to Post #15
Milky1 to my mind is the closest thing I have ever found to the original scopex (and probably with good reason as it was John who supplied Hutchy with the recipe one drunken night!).
Milky1 to my mind is the closest thing I have ever found to the original scopex (and probably with good reason as it was John who supplied Hutchy with the recipe one drunken night!).
In reply to Post #16
Funny enough I remember seeing some fella mentioning this in RH group on FB a short time ago.
Funny enough I remember seeing some fella mentioning this in RH group on FB a short time ago.
In reply to Post #14
That JB Plum has been doing the business for a very long time
I've caught some good Barbel on his Frost & Flood mix in the past.
Interesting re: Milky 1
That JB Plum has been doing the business for a very long time
I've caught some good Barbel on his Frost & Flood mix in the past.
Interesting re: Milky 1
In reply to Post #18
Ala salar and plum are brilliant. Ala salar is actually used in one of kennys asylum baits everyone rates so highly. Plum in a fishmeal is just fantastic. If it was easier to come by ready rolled I'd never use anything else
Ala salar and plum are brilliant. Ala salar is actually used in one of kennys asylum baits everyone rates so highly. Plum in a fishmeal is just fantastic. If it was easier to come by ready rolled I'd never use anything else
In reply to Post #16
I bought a couple of bottles after reading on here how similar it is to the original scopex and, to my mind, it really isn't that similar. Mind you it's got to be 20 odd years since the proper scopex was available.
That being said, the Milky is a winner. A really good flavour, very strong, and it's the only synthetic flavour I now use. They like it!
Btw I didn't thing that John introduced scopex to Rod, I thought that was the Pukka Salmon or possibly Monster Crab I may be wrong on that mind as it's a long, long time ago!
I bought a couple of bottles after reading on here how similar it is to the original scopex and, to my mind, it really isn't that similar. Mind you it's got to be 20 odd years since the proper scopex was available.
That being said, the Milky is a winner. A really good flavour, very strong, and it's the only synthetic flavour I now use. They like it!
Btw I didn't thing that John introduced scopex to Rod, I thought that was the Pukka Salmon or possibly Monster Crab I may be wrong on that mind as it's a long, long time ago!
In reply to Post #19
I am all out of Plumb at the moment. But I do have a base mix I'd love to test it in. Maybe in autumn now.
I am all out of Plumb at the moment. But I do have a base mix I'd love to test it in. Maybe in autumn now.
In reply to Post #13
Interesting. He is only charging what every other bait company is mainline-sticky etc. Fair enough you have to add a few eggs and roll it yourself. I think if you took JB base mix and mainline or sticky to someone who really knew there bait and asked what bait contains the best ingredients etc. I certainly don't think JB would be at the bottom of that list. Meanwhile mainline charging 15 quid a kilo in the shops. I think I'll stick with JB
Interesting. He is only charging what every other bait company is mainline-sticky etc. Fair enough you have to add a few eggs and roll it yourself. I think if you took JB base mix and mainline or sticky to someone who really knew there bait and asked what bait contains the best ingredients etc. I certainly don't think JB would be at the bottom of that list. Meanwhile mainline charging 15 quid a kilo in the shops. I think I'll stick with JB
Yes absolutely, I can't buy a bite of some super duper pop ups out they JB base mix and cork balls tempt them though.
In reply to Post #12
Crab and Salmon
Crab and Salmon
I costed it at £9.50 for a kilo of mix plus labour
I've used JB for 25 years now and along with ABS they are the best in the business imho.
I've used JB for 25 years now and along with ABS they are the best in the business imho.
In reply to Post #24
His Crab and Ala Salar @ a ratio of 65/35. Bloody reeks. I also mix it with a squid based liquid.
His Crab and Ala Salar @ a ratio of 65/35. Bloody reeks. I also mix it with a squid based liquid.
In reply to Post #26
you single then ?
you single then ?
In reply to Post #13
its quality bait made on a small scale and mixed by hand, i thinks its unfair to compare with mass produced bait from other manufacturers
its quality bait made on a small scale and mixed by hand, i thinks its unfair to compare with mass produced bait from other manufacturers
In reply to Post #27
lol no believe it or not. I do wear gloves when mixing it tho 🙂.
lol no believe it or not. I do wear gloves when mixing it tho 🙂.
In reply to Post #29
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