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Mini big pits (57 posts / 13,343 views)
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
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Post #1 17 May 2020 14:58
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What's people thoughts on the best mini big pits. Mainly for fishing anything from the margins to 100 yards. Currently thinking about the emcast 25a or ultegra 5500 but open to suggestions.
Thanks
Goose Goose
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Post #2 17 May 2020 15:29
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Emcast 25a's are an absolute bargain imo moving up ultegra ci4 5500 are vgood and up more twin power sw are great.
Jamesvg Jamesvg
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Post #3 17 May 2020 16:47
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I have a pair of emcast 25a's and think they are a great reel for the money. As an overall package I probably would choose them over my cast'izms due to the slower clutch and greater bang for buck. The Cast'izm's are lighter and more refined but not by enough to justify the gulf in price.
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
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Post #4 17 May 2020 16:52
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👍🏻 How much line Do you get on them? Usually use 0.37 15lb myself
littleian littleian
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Post #5 17 May 2020 19:08
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Just got a set of the emcast 25A myself to put on my pace compacts for stalking etc but to be honest they feel like they will be a perfect match for my 12ft soft actioned rods too. Lovely size!
DAZCOOP DAZCOOP
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Post #6 17 May 2020 21:22
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I used the 5500 xtb baby pits for many years for my carp fishing and found these to be spot on for me.
karmh karmh
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Post #7 17 May 2020 21:45
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I have 5500 xtd and do not rate them at all. Selling them actually to get something else but still undecided.
Robmfc Robmfc
Posts: 57
Post #8 17 May 2020 22:18
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I got some of the Daiwa Crosscast QD's last year, they are very nice and improved my casting dramatically!
Adamroybooth Adamroybooth
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Post #9 17 May 2020 22:39
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Castizm's take some beating.
Jamesvg Jamesvg
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Post #10 17 May 2020 23:09
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Couldn't tell tou off the top of my head, have 12lb technium on them - all I know I've never needed more on them.

The box only gives capacity for 0.3/0.32/0.35mm, if it helps it states 270m/300yds of 0.35mm.
Smufter Smufter
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Post #11 18 May 2020 03:07
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I have the Emblem 25A's Joe and they are superb reels mate.
Prefer them to my previous Medium Longcasts.
ms1970
Posts: 153
Post #12 18 May 2020 06:03
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Do you think these would these be too big for 9ft rods?
wetnet wetnet
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Post #13 18 May 2020 09:35
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You'll get well over 300 of .37 on the 25 spools. I back my castizms and get to fill 3 with .35 1000m spool.

What you will find is at 100 yards with .37 your spool will look empty, brilliant reels but the spool sure empty's quick. I also have 3 castizm feeder reels and to give you a gauge of spool depth I can get 176 yards of .35 on those.
dannyuk32 dannyuk32
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Post #14 18 May 2020 16:34
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Others to consider, Sonik Xtractor 5000 (advertised 415grams) and Okuma Inception (advertised 460 grams) .
I recommend to stay clear of the Castizm unless you love a very fast drag.
kizzi
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Post #15 18 May 2020 22:15
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Best, I've used are Cast'izms. But silly money compared to Ultegras that did everything I needed.
littleian littleian
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Post #16 18 May 2020 22:55
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I know its only superficial but i love the look of the emblem 25c qd which i think is fairly similar in spec to the castizm minus the mag seal i think.
Smufter Smufter
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Post #17 19 May 2020 03:38
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No they are not big reels at all.
Have them on my 11' rods and they are a perfect match.
CityKoi CityKoi
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Post #18 19 May 2020 07:05
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if you can afford them i would say castizms for a smaller set up
ms1970
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Post #19 19 May 2020 20:22
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Thanks
What sort of size roughly are they ? with all shops closed no chance of viewing. Are they similar in size to a shimano 6000 Baitrunner ?
littleian littleian
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Post #20 19 May 2020 21:53
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They're a little bigger than a 6000 baitrunner. In shimano terms they're about ultegra 5500 possibly a smidgeon smaller and in daiwa terms they're in between a 2600 and emblem 5000.
Pizza Pizza
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Post #21 19 May 2020 21:56
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In reply to Post #12
Emcast 25A whilst amazing for the money were too big for me on a 9 foot rod and I swapped for SS2600.
DenzelLN
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Post #22 19 May 2020 22:29
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Sold my Castizms and bought some Emcast 25 A's.

Absolute bargain, and feel every bit as good as the Castizms.
karmh karmh
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Post #23 21 May 2020 11:19
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How big are affinity ii 8000 compared to 5500 xtds or 25as? Are they much, much bigger?
weaver83 weaver83
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Post #24 21 May 2020 12:03
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Much much bigger lol
karmh karmh
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Post #25 21 May 2020 12:07
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Thanks for the reply but I think I posted this on wrong thread, still though, xtds were perfect size for me for all round use don't really want to go smaller or much larger but I've now sold my xtds as they were crap so need something quick. Anybody used windcast zs?
ip100 ip100
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Post #26 21 May 2020 12:13
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The penn 7000 are a standard big pit size, the 8000 are huge
karmh karmh
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Post #27 21 May 2020 12:15
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Yes it appears they're much too big for me. Cheers.
ThrobsBlackHat
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Post #28 22 May 2020 16:42
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If cadence are still doing their buy one get one free then their mini pit is brilliant for the money.

https://www.cadencefishing.co.uk/product/cadence-cs10-long-cast-fishing-reel/
Apps316 Apps316
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Post #29 23 May 2020 09:27
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89cm retrieve on those. That is piss poor.
carpe_diem carpe_diem
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Post #30 23 May 2020 10:01
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Yes , I've had a set of windcasts , absolute garbage , plastic fantastic !
Go for a set of Ci4 5500 Ultegras , or as said the Castizm
carpe_diem carpe_diem
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Post #31 23 May 2020 10:03
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You'd be surprised at some of the retrieval rates of big name reels that are mentioned on here , some are really poor
g4fne g4fne
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Post #32 23 May 2020 13:13
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yes, the low retrieve rate (89cm) would be my only criticism of the FX9 reels .... I still prefer them over Shimano XTB & XTC's i had in the past though.
Apps316 Apps316
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Post #33 23 May 2020 22:26
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Yeah I was close to getting some Fx9's a few years back but that did put me off... I'm currently using Okuma INC-6000's on my 10ft rods and they were quoted as having 104cm and are super light.
esoxlucious esoxlucious
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Post #34 24 May 2020 01:40
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Carp Diem Spot on I have actualy read on here people claiming windcasts are good reels you couldn't make it up .Sometimes I think it's a wind up people want you to spend money on junk .I have come to the conclusion it's just that they can't be full shillings .
g4fne g4fne
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Post #35 24 May 2020 17:47
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I bought some Okuma Inc 6000 during lockdown so not used yet. They are on my 2.25lb rods which suit perfectly .... I would say i prefer the FX9's on my heavier rods though, they just feel a bit better to me
Goose Goose
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Post #36 24 May 2020 21:19
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That's similar to the cult much loved tournament 5000. Personally I don't need a high speed retrieve unless spod/spombing.
Spodfather Spodfather
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Post #37 25 May 2020 09:52
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Ultegra 5500 are decent for the money but they do feel a bit cheap compared to reels that are slightly higher in price!
noj
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The faster the retrieve, the higher stress the gearing is under too.
carpyclarkey carpyclarkey
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Post #39 26 May 2020 07:59
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How is everyone finding the okuma inc 6000s? Do they come with a Spare spool? Tempted to chop by 5500 xtbs in for some
smudge_carp smudge_carp
Posts: 174
Post #40 26 May 2020 08:29
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Very good reels mate. Dont come with a spare spool but u can buy one and still be cheaper than other reels. Clutch is so smooth. Adam Penning couldnt rate them high enough when spoke to him about them. For £60 max these are a bargain.
Apps316 Apps316
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Post #41 27 May 2020 00:03
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They are a hell of a lot of reel for the money... shop around and you can get them for around £46 each. Think I got all three for £125 posted.

From the very limited use I've had with them they seem very good. I've still got a spare Okuma Custom Black reel I use on the spomb / marker rod and I prefer these for short to medium range.

Longevity wise who knows (I still have an old Okuma baitrunner I've owned since 1998 and that is still running fine).
carpyclarkey carpyclarkey
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Post #42 27 May 2020 08:13
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Do you mind sharing where you got them from mate? How do you find the custom black in comparison?
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #43 27 May 2020 16:13
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A mate of mine has the shimano 5500 xtd on his 10ft rods.He just can't seem to get on with them and is thinking of some of the Okuma Inc 6000,would he be making a mistake changing.
karmh karmh
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Post #44 27 May 2020 16:15
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Can't speak for okuma as not seen or used them but anything is an upgrade from xtd imo I hated them
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #45 27 May 2020 16:18
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Yeah he is the same
ms1970
Posts: 153
Post #46 27 May 2020 17:32
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In reply to Post #42
Hi I just ordered 3 Okuma 6000 Inc, £130 delivered Parkfield Angling centre
Rabs
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Post #47 27 May 2020 18:01
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How did you get that deal bud?
ms1970
Posts: 153
Post #48 27 May 2020 19:39
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It was on their website Sunday, I see they've sold out now give them a ring or FB messenger them they were very responsive on FB as i had a couple of questions about them they may be getting more stock.
g4fne g4fne
Posts: 15,110
Post #49 27 May 2020 19:42
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Good deal, i paid £130 for set of Inc 6000 ..... Agree with previous comments aswell .... The XTB's, XTC's and XTD's are some of the most over rated reels on the market.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #50 27 May 2020 19:51
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Would you choose the okuma over the shimano reels.My mate really can't decide what to do
g4fne g4fne
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Post #51 27 May 2020 20:06
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On 10ft rods, definately (i have) .... The Okuma's are light, simple, functional and a steal .... I cant comment on longevity as got mine during lockdown
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #52 27 May 2020 20:16
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Cheers for that,I will let him know
aaaandy aaaandy
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Post #53 20 Jun 2020 11:27
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Off the back of this thread I checked parkfield angling and went for the okuma reels + Sonik rod deals

Turns out after I ordered the rods were out of stock but they replaced with more expensive ones and honoured the order..great customer service!

Not used the reels yet but look good
warchild warchild
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Post #54 22 Jun 2020 20:41
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ive used okuma for years and theres old threads on here where i got slated for selling my shimano baby pits and going back to okuma, but there is one bug bear i always had with them all and thats if your carefull the line goes behind the spool, and it fiss me off when that happens, so i went over to the penn afinity with the wiper blade and i love that ,
i would love these little okuma for my 9ft rods, and to the people wondering how they will last im sure they will last very well, i just hope they dont suffer the line going behind the spool like all the old ones, and looking on amazon the very first comment , said it does
Pancake
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Post #55 23 Jun 2020 10:23
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I've got a set of fx9s and a set of 6000 baitrunners.
All of them suffer with line getting behind the spool.
I've come to the conclusion that it's just something you've got to accept on the cheaper reels. Not like it happens on every cast
karmh karmh
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Post #56 23 Jun 2020 10:24
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But it happens on £130 xtds as well lol
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #57 23 Jun 2020 11:46
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It happens on £500+ reels too
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