Decided this year to lose any form of leader and just fish with a lead clip, 20lb Fluor straight through, however would like 2/3 blobs of putty a couple of foot behind the lead just to help it stay down. Always used Kryston but didn't seem that good last time I tried it. Any recommendations for the heaviest putty tht stays on well?
In reply to Post #1
Dare i say it, nash putty is decent
In fact, its the only good thing that they do imo
Dare i say it, nash putty is decent
In fact, its the only good thing that they do imo
In reply to Post #2
Have to agree and say Nash aswell. Best by a long shot for me.
Have to agree and say Nash aswell. Best by a long shot for me.
Anyone used the Bank tackle stuff ?
In reply to Post #4
Esp for me
Esp for me
In reply to Post #2
Nash for me aswell,bit pricey for what it is though..what I do when fishing naked
is tie a sliding stop knot up the line a bit with a swan shot pinched onto one of the tag ends. or a mate of mine puts 2 or 3 lengths of 2 inch tungsten tubing on the line that slide up the line at different intervals when casting out..
Nash for me aswell,bit pricey for what it is though..what I do when fishing naked
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Why dont you put some small korda line sinkers on the line and that will give you something to mould the putty on. I find the dark matter putty pretty good
Why dont you put some small korda line sinkers on the line and that will give you something to mould the putty on. I find the dark matter putty pretty good
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Only purchase I had from them Gerry were I wasn't impressed. Was rock hard and couldn't get a decent piece off to use.
Luckily I still had some original Heavy Metal in the box so have been using that when needed.
Have got some of the ESP stuff and that seems perfectly fine.
Only purchase I had from them Gerry were I wasn't impressed. Was rock hard and couldn't get a decent piece off to use.
Luckily I still had some original Heavy Metal in the box so have been using that when needed.
Have got some of the ESP stuff and that seems perfectly fine.
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I used to love heavy metal, but heard it went downhill. Got some Korda dark matter and was not impressed. I use a fluro leader with pieces up the length. Each time I reeled in and not even dragging through weed ect, most if not all had slipped to the bottom or come off. I got some from I think ‘affordable angling' was about £3-4, yesh it's a bugger to break off and initially start, but it sticks and stays on, is heavy and cheap so can't grumble (prob very similar to other cheaper brands)
I used to love heavy metal, but heard it went downhill. Got some Korda dark matter and was not impressed. I use a fluro leader with pieces up the length. Each time I reeled in and not even dragging through weed ect, most if not all had slipped to the bottom or come off. I got some from I think ‘affordable angling' was about £3-4, yesh it's a bugger to break off and initially start, but it sticks and stays on, is heavy and cheap so can't grumble (prob very similar to other cheaper brands)
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But wasn't the original Heavy Metal hard and you softened it up by sitting it on the kettle or similar? Yes the Dark Matter is terrible stuff. The HM used to be the best because of the amount of tungsten they used to put in it, even had their own machine to make it, I remember recently reading an article in an old Carpworld all about it so don't know what happened to that?
But wasn't the original Heavy Metal hard and you softened it up by sitting it on the kettle or similar? Yes the Dark Matter is terrible stuff. The HM used to be the best because of the amount of tungsten they used to put in it, even had their own machine to make it, I remember recently reading an article in an old Carpworld all about it so don't know what happened to that?
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But wasn't the original Heavy Metal hard and you softened it up by sitting it on the kettle or similar?
Yes it is/was but the Bank Tackle stuff IMO was on another level.
But wasn't the original Heavy Metal hard and you softened it up by sitting it on the kettle or similar?
Yes it is/was but the Bank Tackle stuff IMO was on another level.
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Some of the really cheap stuff goes molten if it gets hot, can't remember the brands off hand, but the ones plastered all over the Facebook groups with their one field tester claiming it to be the dogs while holding up an 8lb carp.
Some of the really cheap stuff goes molten if it gets hot, can't remember the brands off hand, but the ones plastered all over the Facebook groups with their one field tester claiming it to be the dogs while holding up an 8lb carp.
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Bought the nash putty last year. During the hot summer, it has molten. My rigbox was a complete sticky mess due to the molten putty
Bought the nash putty last year. During the hot summer, it has molten. My rigbox was a complete sticky mess due to the molten putty
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ah right, luckily I still have some of the Kryston putty from when they first went over to the new packaging a few years ago and it seems ok to me
EDIT: I've found the article I'll scan it and put it up
ah right, luckily I still have some of the Kryston putty from when they first went over to the new packaging a few years ago and it seems ok to me
EDIT: I've found the article I'll scan it and put it up
I find the deception angling stuff is good.
In reply to Post #15
This is the stuff I still have. God knows how old it is and still going strong

This is the stuff I still have. God knows how old it is and still going strong

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The Deception stuff I got was awful. It was like Plasticine. Super sticky but has absolutely no weight to it whatsoever.
That said, the first lot I got which was some years ago now was decent so who knows.
The Deception stuff I got was awful. It was like Plasticine. Super sticky but has absolutely no weight to it whatsoever.
That said, the first lot I got which was some years ago now was decent so who knows.
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yeah that's the stuff I have
EDIT: actually no it isn't
, that's the stuff I used to have, now have this one and have found it just as good, maybe just the packaging is slightly different but still says 'Made In The UK' on it and is probably the original stuff, remember buying it quick when there was news about 'all change' at Kryston
yeah that's the stuff I have
EDIT: actually no it isn't
In reply to Post #17
I've still got some of that , must have had it fifteen years
I've still got some of that , must have had it fifteen years
Mosquito angling stuff for me, as with all my end tackle bits these days
Daz
Daz
Not sure about the best but am down to my last 5 mm blob of Kryston old version heavy metal but did invest in their Drop Em putty for when it's gone, it's darker and stiffer than the old heavy metal and does leave a bit of residue on the fingers, I only use putty for a tiny bit on the hook link and some mouse dropping size bits above the lead at around 2 foot intervals.
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When I herd that Kryston were going under a few years back I bought 5 packs of the stuff.
I then ordered some of more and got the new version in a tin but it was identical to what the old stuff was.
Still have a load in the shed, best stuff I ever used and the video that did the rounds on youtube about how to use it properly was great
When I herd that Kryston were going under a few years back I bought 5 packs of the stuff.
I then ordered some of more and got the new version in a tin but it was identical to what the old stuff was.
Still have a load in the shed, best stuff I ever used and the video that did the rounds on youtube about how to use it properly was great
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Drop em isnt meant for bobbing on, your supposed to just rub your hooklink through it to sink that, not weigh down popups, hence it's so sticky
Drop em isnt meant for bobbing on, your supposed to just rub your hooklink through it to sink that, not weigh down popups, hence it's so sticky
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That's if your using braid, with mono you use little mouse droppings of it, on their website, I don't use it for weighting pop-ups.
That's if your using braid, with mono you use little mouse droppings of it, on their website, I don't use it for weighting pop-ups.
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Have a look at the carplife putty, it's the best I have found so far, after running out of the original kryston stuff.
Have a look at the carplife putty, it's the best I have found so far, after running out of the original kryston stuff.
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The Rigworx carp tackle stuff is the best ive ever had, £4 for 20g as well
The Rigworx carp tackle stuff is the best ive ever had, £4 for 20g as well
I am assuming that not all these small companies have their own machinery to make putty like Kryston do/did, so a lot of these have to be the same product in different packaging, be interesting to know which ones, probably most of them
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Do you know for a fact krysten produced it themselves?
Do you know for a fact krysten produced it themselves?
In reply to Post #29
See post 15. Would have been an elaborate ruse if not.
See post 15. Would have been an elaborate ruse if not.
In reply to Post #28
Do you know for a fact krysten produced it themselves?
Do you know for a fact krysten produced it themselves?
In reply to Post #31
Yes, as Tom mentioned, see post #15
Yes, as Tom mentioned, see post #15
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Harsh
Harsh
In reply to Post #1
Olivier who runs the Passion Lake in France has his own tackle range under the name of LCA Tackle. Some of you may have seen him at the Brentwood show. His putty is absolutely superb on mono and braid.
www.lcatackle.com
Check out his "Gom" item too for hooks. Very good.
Olivier who runs the Passion Lake in France has his own tackle range under the name of LCA Tackle. Some of you may have seen him at the Brentwood show. His putty is absolutely superb on mono and braid.
www.lcatackle.com
Check out his "Gom" item too for hooks. Very good.
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I take my last post back...after recieving some more deception putty in the post I set to making some rigs and 'tank testing' some rogs to see how long wafters/pop ups would work for. After taking the rigs out I found the putty had gone to mush and had litrally fallen off the rig.
I am now reading this thread to decide on my new putty choice.
I take my last post back...after recieving some more deception putty in the post I set to making some rigs and 'tank testing' some rogs to see how long wafters/pop ups would work for. After taking the rigs out I found the putty had gone to mush and had litrally fallen off the rig.
I am now reading this thread to decide on my new putty choice.
In reply to Post #35
Get the nash stuff, its good.
Get the nash stuff, its good.
In reply to Post #36
I've tried a few since my last bit of Kryston was running low.
I recently bought the Nash and Kryston and they turned up this week and it's gotta be Kryston I don't think it's changed.
The Nash is no better than the Gardner one which is just a sticky mess at the bottom of a tin, I mixed the Gardner one with a cheap harder one of the bay and that's reasonable.
Mixed the Nash with the Kryston that's ok
Ordered two more Kryston.
I've tried a few since my last bit of Kryston was running low.
I recently bought the Nash and Kryston and they turned up this week and it's gotta be Kryston I don't think it's changed.
The Nash is no better than the Gardner one which is just a sticky mess at the bottom of a tin, I mixed the Gardner one with a cheap harder one of the bay and that's reasonable.
Mixed the Nash with the Kryston that's ok
Ordered two more Kryston.
In reply to Post #31
Hi. Yes they did make their own putty and im pretty sure hoooklength materials in house. Remember an article in CW years ago doing a 'behind the scenes at Kryston'.Dave and co invested a lot of money in developing bespoke tooling and equipment for the manufacture of Putty and things like Snakeskin/Mantis etc/. I believe their putty had the highest density of Tungsten of all the rig puttys on the market WHEN INTRODUCED... guessing thats probably changed now?
Hi. Yes they did make their own putty and im pretty sure hoooklength materials in house. Remember an article in CW years ago doing a 'behind the scenes at Kryston'.Dave and co invested a lot of money in developing bespoke tooling and equipment for the manufacture of Putty and things like Snakeskin/Mantis etc/. I believe their putty had the highest density of Tungsten of all the rig puttys on the market WHEN INTRODUCED... guessing thats probably changed now?
I'm using the nash putty and it's ok but nothing special. Nash did a liquid tungsten, that I really liked but the bottle went off very quick so not really cost effective
In reply to Post #38
Again, can I refer you to post #15
Again, can I refer you to post #15
A video was around prior to The Taska take over where Kryston went through the history of the business quiet interesting.
Supposedly the carrier in the Heavier Metal has to be changed due to EU regulations.
Supposedly the carrier in the Heavier Metal has to be changed due to EU regulations.
In reply to Post #40
Thanks! I posted just in case the OP missed the pictures..
Thanks! I posted just in case the OP missed the pictures..
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Nash cling-on for me
Nash cling-on for me
In reply to Post #38
Thinking Anglers putty I find pretty decent.
Thinking Anglers putty I find pretty decent.
In reply to Post #37
How much putty do you need? Thats 5 tubs lol
How much putty do you need? Thats 5 tubs lol
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