Following on from my landing net thread how much is too much for a set of measuring stick's?
I will likely purchase a set of Elite Tackle sicks in Blue circa £55 at the Big One this month, and i know 2 £5 bank sticks do exactly the same thing!!!!
I will likely purchase a set of Elite Tackle sicks in Blue circa £55 at the Big One this month, and i know 2 £5 bank sticks do exactly the same thing!!!!
Up to the individual, if you can afford it and want branded gear then buy it, if not or if you cannot justify £45 for marker sticks when £5 bank sticks will do the same job then don't.
Much the same as anything else in life, why buy a Mercedes when a Ford will get you from A to B just the same...
If it is your choice then crack-on, I cannot understand the stigma that is attached to Anglers who buy expensive gear, apart from jealousy of course....
Much the same as anything else in life, why buy a Mercedes when a Ford will get you from A to B just the same...
If it is your choice then crack-on, I cannot understand the stigma that is attached to Anglers who buy expensive gear, apart from jealousy of course....
In reply to Post #1
Spend how much you want on what you want. Enjoy your time and money however you deem fit.
Personally, I made a carbon set for about £15 all in.
Spend how much you want on what you want. Enjoy your time and money however you deem fit.
Personally, I made a carbon set for about £15 all in.
In reply to Post #2
TBH fortunately the cost is irrelevant as i can afford it but it's interesting to see others views regarding the costs of certain tackle items, bivvies being a good one.
Product lifespan doesn't get mentioned much on here but i would expect the stick's i mentioned to outlast me as i would my JAG pod , both expensive buy's but value for money over time.
TBH fortunately the cost is irrelevant as i can afford it but it's interesting to see others views regarding the costs of certain tackle items, bivvies being a good one.
Product lifespan doesn't get mentioned much on here but i would expect the stick's i mentioned to outlast me as i would my JAG pod , both expensive buy's but value for money over time.
In reply to Post #4
Just buy what you want innit mate.
All my gear is bought because it's the lightest. Sometimes that means the most expensive (e.g. Dymag nets) and sometimes it's the cheapest (Lo Pro and Tactical bedchair being good examples).
That meant carbon fibre distance sticks so I spent what I had to.
Just buy what you want innit mate.
All my gear is bought because it's the lightest. Sometimes that means the most expensive (e.g. Dymag nets) and sometimes it's the cheapest (Lo Pro and Tactical bedchair being good examples).
That meant carbon fibre distance sticks so I spent what I had to.
In reply to Post #3
One way to get higher end gear and save money is buy a year or two behind the latest models. Being on trend costs a lot of money. You have lots of feedback on the item and can save literally hundreds of pounds per item.
One way to get higher end gear and save money is buy a year or two behind the latest models. Being on trend costs a lot of money. You have lots of feedback on the item and can save literally hundreds of pounds per item.
In reply to Post #1
As already said, buy what you want, it's your hard earned and if it makes you happy then that's all that counts. As you've pointed out cost doesn't always dictate fitness for purpose.
I'm probably going to get some distance sticks, when I do they'll be Titanium for lightness and strength, I don't like general angling Aluminium (siezes/too soft), Carbon (splinters/scratches) or powder coat (scratches).
Bit weird really, up until around 25 years I didn't care what my gear looked like, with age that's completely reversed, total ocd now lol
Edit, I probably need to start non Carp fishing again, desensitise myself to things that don't matter.
As already said, buy what you want, it's your hard earned and if it makes you happy then that's all that counts. As you've pointed out cost doesn't always dictate fitness for purpose.
I'm probably going to get some distance sticks, when I do they'll be Titanium for lightness and strength, I don't like general angling Aluminium (siezes/too soft), Carbon (splinters/scratches) or powder coat (scratches).
Bit weird really, up until around 25 years I didn't care what my gear looked like, with age that's completely reversed, total ocd now lol
Edit, I probably need to start non Carp fishing again, desensitise myself to things that don't matter.
In reply to Post #1
You can get even cheaper measuring sticks lying around under trees etc
Question for you and anyone else who may have an opinion on this (not looking for an argument) Do you feel that anglers that continually buy expensive gear keep the prices inflated for everyone else? The tackle companies don't need much of an excuse to charge top dollar for anything they want and whilst there's people out there willing to pay it they'll keep charging it.
Daz
You can get even cheaper measuring sticks lying around under trees etc
Question for you and anyone else who may have an opinion on this (not looking for an argument) Do you feel that anglers that continually buy expensive gear keep the prices inflated for everyone else? The tackle companies don't need much of an excuse to charge top dollar for anything they want and whilst there's people out there willing to pay it they'll keep charging it.
Daz
In reply to Post #8
Nah. There's loads of cheap gear on the market.
I don't think a set of bespoke machined and anodised sticks can be considered a good example of overpriced gear. There are literally loads of bog standard off-the-shelf options out there starting at like 6 quid. You can pick up a cheap bank stick for next to nothing if you want.
Nah. There's loads of cheap gear on the market.
I don't think a set of bespoke machined and anodised sticks can be considered a good example of overpriced gear. There are literally loads of bog standard off-the-shelf options out there starting at like 6 quid. You can pick up a cheap bank stick for next to nothing if you want.
In reply to Post #8
There is more choice around now than there has ever been imo.Just look at shelters,you can pay top money for aqua,trakker or get a cyprinus equivalent or quest tackle.I don't smoke I don't go out on the piss all my bills are paid every month and my kids go without nothing.Its all about if you want it and can afford it then why not,we all like nice things in life
There is more choice around now than there has ever been imo.Just look at shelters,you can pay top money for aqua,trakker or get a cyprinus equivalent or quest tackle.I don't smoke I don't go out on the piss all my bills are paid every month and my kids go without nothing.Its all about if you want it and can afford it then why not,we all like nice things in life
In reply to Post #8
Keep on buying the expensive brand new gear people . Plenty of the kit I use is second hand and bought for a fraction of the brand new price, when the numpties move to golf. All bought for a reason though
Keep on buying the expensive brand new gear people . Plenty of the kit I use is second hand and bought for a fraction of the brand new price, when the numpties move to golf. All bought for a reason though
In reply to Post #8
Before anyone can answer your question you have to determine what is expensive, that was the sort of point i was trying to make in my post.
One man's expensive is another's cheap etc.
One thing i would say is that a lot of gear must already be deemed expensive going on how active the second hand market is, that said even the high end gear takes a while to move.
Everyone falls into a demographic and most industries target one or more when flogging it's goods, i would say we are hitting the ceiling purchase price wise versus the majority demographic that actively partake in the sport.
Charging top dollar also push's up the amount of thieving because this sport attracts a lot from the demographic who choose to live like that.
Before anyone can answer your question you have to determine what is expensive, that was the sort of point i was trying to make in my post.
One man's expensive is another's cheap etc.
One thing i would say is that a lot of gear must already be deemed expensive going on how active the second hand market is, that said even the high end gear takes a while to move.
Everyone falls into a demographic and most industries target one or more when flogging it's goods, i would say we are hitting the ceiling purchase price wise versus the majority demographic that actively partake in the sport.
Charging top dollar also push's up the amount of thieving because this sport attracts a lot from the demographic who choose to live like that.
In reply to Post #10
You're missing my point mate. I'm not arguing that people can spend their hard earned on whatever they want, I'm arguing that whilst some people are happy to pay top dollar for their gear then tackle companies will keep charging it, whether it's worth it or not. I personally don't believe 99% of tackle is worth whats being asked for it but that might just be me being a tight ****!
Daz
P.S. I do benefit from peoples need to have the latest bivvy, rods etc as they keep an excellent 2nd hand market going.
You're missing my point mate. I'm not arguing that people can spend their hard earned on whatever they want, I'm arguing that whilst some people are happy to pay top dollar for their gear then tackle companies will keep charging it, whether it's worth it or not. I personally don't believe 99% of tackle is worth whats being asked for it but that might just be me being a tight ****!
Daz
P.S. I do benefit from peoples need to have the latest bivvy, rods etc as they keep an excellent 2nd hand market going.
In reply to Post #11
I've been a member of a golf club for as long as I've been angling, 40 ish years and never once have i seen any of the type of Muppet's you get in this game join a golf club.
I've been a member of a golf club for as long as I've been angling, 40 ish years and never once have i seen any of the type of Muppet's you get in this game join a golf club.
In reply to Post #13
I get what you're saying.There have been threads running about some of the gear released lately and prices and how plenty of us are pissed off with having our pants pulled down.For me it comes down to cost and how long I think the item will last.My dymag net and defiant pod will last me a lifetime so for me they are good value
I get what you're saying.There have been threads running about some of the gear released lately and prices and how plenty of us are pissed off with having our pants pulled down.For me it comes down to cost and how long I think the item will last.My dymag net and defiant pod will last me a lifetime so for me they are good value
In reply to Post #12
Before anyone can answer your question you have to determine what is expensive, that was the sort of point i was trying to make in my post.
One man's expensive is another's cheap etc.
True, and as you say will differ from angler to angler.
But do you think that paying £300 for a net when you can get one for £20 or £800 for a bivvy when you can get similar for less than half the price helps the tackle companies charging top dollar to be able to keep charging it. e.g. If we all suddenly bought £300 bivvies they'd have to reduce their prices right?
Daz
Before anyone can answer your question you have to determine what is expensive, that was the sort of point i was trying to make in my post.
One man's expensive is another's cheap etc.
True, and as you say will differ from angler to angler.
But do you think that paying £300 for a net when you can get one for £20 or £800 for a bivvy when you can get similar for less than half the price helps the tackle companies charging top dollar to be able to keep charging it. e.g. If we all suddenly bought £300 bivvies they'd have to reduce their prices right?
Daz
In reply to Post #14
valid points already made by everyone about what is expensive.
My take, and aptly it is comparable to golf, is that you find:
1. those who never want to spend a lot, through choice or they cant afford it
2. those who will buy the most expensive things they can because they can, or they'll do whatever to get it
3. those who buy what they need for a purpose
i.e. I upgraded my irons, I spent hours at a fitting to find I was hitting much better with £450 irons than I was with £950 irons. I bought what suited me. Some people wouldn't buy the 450 irons because they are person no.1 above, some would have bought the £950 irons to the detriment of their game because they are person no.2 and then someone like me (no.3) buys the best suited clubs for themselves.
valid points already made by everyone about what is expensive.
My take, and aptly it is comparable to golf, is that you find:
1. those who never want to spend a lot, through choice or they cant afford it
2. those who will buy the most expensive things they can because they can, or they'll do whatever to get it
3. those who buy what they need for a purpose
i.e. I upgraded my irons, I spent hours at a fitting to find I was hitting much better with £450 irons than I was with £950 irons. I bought what suited me. Some people wouldn't buy the 450 irons because they are person no.1 above, some would have bought the £950 irons to the detriment of their game because they are person no.2 and then someone like me (no.3) buys the best suited clubs for themselves.
In reply to Post #14
You will have, they're just better at not appearing to be a muppet by practice. Doesn't Donald Trump play golf?
You will have, they're just better at not appearing to be a muppet by practice. Doesn't Donald Trump play golf?
In reply to Post #17
Very well put Vik
Very well put Vik
In reply to Post #16
do you think that paying £300 for a net when you can get one for £20 or £800 for a bivvy when you can get similar for less than half the price helps the tackle companies charging top dollar to be able to keep charging it. If we all suddenly bought £300 bivvies they'd have to reduce their prices right?
The Dyamg net is a bad example imo. Dymag gear is hand built by a very skilled man. The bivvy is defo a better example mate. No excuse for mass produced Chinese bivvies going for top dollar. It is a p*ss take.
do you think that paying £300 for a net when you can get one for £20 or £800 for a bivvy when you can get similar for less than half the price helps the tackle companies charging top dollar to be able to keep charging it. If we all suddenly bought £300 bivvies they'd have to reduce their prices right?
The Dyamg net is a bad example imo. Dymag gear is hand built by a very skilled man. The bivvy is defo a better example mate. No excuse for mass produced Chinese bivvies going for top dollar. It is a p*ss take.
In reply to Post #16
I agree with Daz if people are paying these silly prices they are helping the company's charge e.g. £1400 for bivvy more and it doesn't mean that someone can't afford these high prices they just won't be ripped off there's lots of people buy expensive gear on credit to show there better off than they are in all walks of life I know well off people who drive around in an old car and wear cheap clothes they have nothing to prove
I agree with Daz if people are paying these silly prices they are helping the company's charge e.g. £1400 for bivvy more and it doesn't mean that someone can't afford these high prices they just won't be ripped off there's lots of people buy expensive gear on credit to show there better off than they are in all walks of life I know well off people who drive around in an old car and wear cheap clothes they have nothing to prove
In reply to Post #21
For sure that is the case for mass produced products but I don't think bespoke machined/anodised distance sticks or hand built landing nets fall into this category.
For sure that is the case for mass produced products but I don't think bespoke machined/anodised distance sticks or hand built landing nets fall into this category.
In reply to Post #22
Like a JAG or Defiant pod, all made to last a lifetime so very much value for money.
Like a JAG or Defiant pod, all made to last a lifetime so very much value for money.
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In reply to Post #18
Never seen anyone lighting up a biffta on the first tee, never been called fella whilst walking the fairways and the clubhouse has never served Pot Noodles
Never seen anyone lighting up a biffta on the first tee, never been called fella whilst walking the fairways and the clubhouse has never served Pot Noodles
In reply to Post #22
Spot on
Spot on
In reply to Post #22
It a landing net and distance sticks to put a fish in and wrap line round hardly an engineering feet
It a landing net and distance sticks to put a fish in and wrap line round hardly an engineering feet
In reply to Post #27
I didn't say they were a feat of engineering. My point is that no matter what you buy, you will pay for bespoke hand made gear. Simple fact innit.
I didn't say they were a feat of engineering. My point is that no matter what you buy, you will pay for bespoke hand made gear. Simple fact innit.
In reply to Post #27
A rod and reel is, that's why i buy custom made rods and top end reels only from companies that specialise in reels, value for money again achieved in the longevity of the products life span.
Funnily enough there are a lot of posts on here commenting on the superior quality of items bought in the past versus today's equivalents.
A rod and reel is, that's why i buy custom made rods and top end reels only from companies that specialise in reels, value for money again achieved in the longevity of the products life span.
Funnily enough there are a lot of posts on here commenting on the superior quality of items bought in the past versus today's equivalents.
In reply to Post #27
We whinge when company A has Factory 27B build pattern 72C in China and add £X amount to the cost - we even call it carp tax ... When a UK company manufactures something and sells it with a margin based on their overheads, we whinge - IF you want a cheaper product, fine, buy one. If you want a high end product buy it also.
The feat of engineering or lack of, does not come into it.
We, as a consumer, have been absolutely spoilt rotten over the years with cheap tat from all over, we bemoan the lack of industry in the UK and in the next breath buy hand over fist cheaper imports. We cannot have it both ways... This is across all sectors, not just fishing ta(t)ckle. Ebay Vs the local tackle shop - Tescos, et al Vs the local shop - all based on more bang for your buck, I understand that we are all looking to save money, but as capitalists, that's what we all are, regardless of our political persuasions, we have truly bongoed up the world in the never ending search to save money at the detriment to the value that we get for the money spent. I am the same, hold my hands up - love it, whoring my credit card for a deal.
Rant not aimed at Post #27 BTW..
We whinge when company A has Factory 27B build pattern 72C in China and add £X amount to the cost - we even call it carp tax ... When a UK company manufactures something and sells it with a margin based on their overheads, we whinge - IF you want a cheaper product, fine, buy one. If you want a high end product buy it also.
The feat of engineering or lack of, does not come into it.
We, as a consumer, have been absolutely spoilt rotten over the years with cheap tat from all over, we bemoan the lack of industry in the UK and in the next breath buy hand over fist cheaper imports. We cannot have it both ways... This is across all sectors, not just fishing ta(t)ckle. Ebay Vs the local tackle shop - Tescos, et al Vs the local shop - all based on more bang for your buck, I understand that we are all looking to save money, but as capitalists, that's what we all are, regardless of our political persuasions, we have truly bongoed up the world in the never ending search to save money at the detriment to the value that we get for the money spent. I am the same, hold my hands up - love it, whoring my credit card for a deal.
Rant not aimed at Post #27 BTW..
In reply to Post #30
....drops the microphone, flicks ‘hair' and leaves the stage
....drops the microphone, flicks ‘hair' and leaves the stage
In reply to Post #31
In reply to Post #30
UK carp kit........................... quickly off the top of my head
Rods, Harrison
Luggage, Cotswold
Pod/sticks, Defiant, JAG
landing Net, Harrison, Dymag
Bivvy?
Bed?
Bait, Mainline/other
End tackle?
Barrow, Prestige.
Reels,?
Alarms, Delkim
a few gaps in the UK market there .
For a bit of fun, which are the top 3 for Carp tax/having your pants pulled down?
UK carp kit........................... quickly off the top of my head
Rods, Harrison
Luggage, Cotswold
Pod/sticks, Defiant, JAG
landing Net, Harrison, Dymag
Bivvy?
Bed?
Bait, Mainline/other
End tackle?
Barrow, Prestige.
Reels,?
Alarms, Delkim
a few gaps in the UK market there .
For a bit of fun, which are the top 3 for Carp tax/having your pants pulled down?
In reply to Post #1
Good thread
Im good with expensive kit and have plenty of it, sort of drawn to it like a magpie and enjoy using it when I do actually get out, cant beat good quality stuff, it can always we sold on at decent rates too.
Now bait, that's another issue, buy loads of it and throw it in for the chance of a kipper, its more like playing the fruit machines or gambling.
Good thread
Im good with expensive kit and have plenty of it, sort of drawn to it like a magpie and enjoy using it when I do actually get out, cant beat good quality stuff, it can always we sold on at decent rates too.
Now bait, that's another issue, buy loads of it and throw it in for the chance of a kipper, its more like playing the fruit machines or gambling.
In reply to Post #31
....drops the microphone, flicks ‘hair' and leaves the stage
SURE SM58 - all that's left after the nuclear war - Cockroaches , SM58's and Defiant Pods...
....drops the microphone, flicks ‘hair' and leaves the stage
SURE SM58 - all that's left after the nuclear war - Cockroaches , SM58's and Defiant Pods...
In reply to Post #33
Mine,
1, bivvies
2, beds
3, end tackle
none of which are made in the UK
Mine,
1, bivvies
2, beds
3, end tackle
none of which are made in the UK
In reply to Post #21
Everything has a value. It's what the market will bear.
A bespoke net will sell for a few hundred and no doubt is viable to produce with a modest profit. Every one is happy.
Put the price up to £1000 and the company annual sales and almost certainly overall profit will drop.
Sales would then be so low that it probably would not be viable to produce.
The customer drives the prices wether a cheap massed produced item or a top quality bespoke one, same principle for both.
Everything has a value. It's what the market will bear.
A bespoke net will sell for a few hundred and no doubt is viable to produce with a modest profit. Every one is happy.
Put the price up to £1000 and the company annual sales and almost certainly overall profit will drop.
Sales would then be so low that it probably would not be viable to produce.
The customer drives the prices wether a cheap massed produced item or a top quality bespoke one, same principle for both.
In reply to Post #34
bait, that's another issue, buy loads of it and throw it in for the chance of a kipper, its more like playing the fruit machines or gambling.
I'd disagree with that. Piling bait into some swim and hoping for a bite aint angling imo. If you bait in accordance with the activity in front of you it's pretty hard to waste it I reckon.
bait, that's another issue, buy loads of it and throw it in for the chance of a kipper, its more like playing the fruit machines or gambling.
I'd disagree with that. Piling bait into some swim and hoping for a bite aint angling imo. If you bait in accordance with the activity in front of you it's pretty hard to waste it I reckon.
In reply to Post #35
Still MC'ing to grime and jungle?
Mass produced tat is mass produced tat, people buy mass produced tat and live with the consequences or pay craftsmen to adapt it so that it sort of serves its purpose.
Very few people are prepared to pay the real value of a bespoke product, just the price it can be made. then obsess about how quickly they can have it.
There's fully grown men that get emotional about a bivvy or something coming out they need yesterday, but they didn't know it existed when they were happy in the last bivvy they spent a monkey on..
Or people that couldn't go fishing because their rod builds were behind schedule, I very much doubt anybody having custom rods built doesn't have at least one set of other rods to use.
Don't get me started on fishing related stickers on items that aren't made ‘cough' by angling companies and paying actual money for clothes that make you a walking advert for an importer or Far Eastern logo'd factory catalogue trash.
Pull yourselves together FFS
Still MC'ing to grime and jungle?
Mass produced tat is mass produced tat, people buy mass produced tat and live with the consequences or pay craftsmen to adapt it so that it sort of serves its purpose.
Very few people are prepared to pay the real value of a bespoke product, just the price it can be made. then obsess about how quickly they can have it.
There's fully grown men that get emotional about a bivvy or something coming out they need yesterday, but they didn't know it existed when they were happy in the last bivvy they spent a monkey on..
Or people that couldn't go fishing because their rod builds were behind schedule, I very much doubt anybody having custom rods built doesn't have at least one set of other rods to use.
Don't get me started on fishing related stickers on items that aren't made ‘cough' by angling companies and paying actual money for clothes that make you a walking advert for an importer or Far Eastern logo'd factory catalogue trash.
Pull yourselves together FFS
In reply to Post #39
Hahaha! Only innit for me Ps!
Hahaha! Only innit for me Ps!
In reply to Post #38
.....but, if you can... heavily bait an interesting area and leave it, it can pay off big style - not recommended on B1 - highly recommended on a vast featureless canal network.. horses for courses i guess.
.....but, if you can... heavily bait an interesting area and leave it, it can pay off big style - not recommended on B1 - highly recommended on a vast featureless canal network.. horses for courses i guess.
In reply to Post #40
And a peng yat
And a peng yat
In reply to Post #42
Great thread very interesting thought each individual has on this which is the whole point of this thread isn't it that there can never be a perfect set amount for how much is too much for each individual with there being so many different factors to measure thing on!
Myself certain things I couldn't justify paying the money on such as the distance sticks form over function comes to mind. But not knocking you or anyone who has wanted the spend x amount on what they wanted!
Get what you want/what you can afford rather and get on that bank lol👍👍👍
Great thread very interesting thought each individual has on this which is the whole point of this thread isn't it that there can never be a perfect set amount for how much is too much for each individual with there being so many different factors to measure thing on!
Myself certain things I couldn't justify paying the money on such as the distance sticks form over function comes to mind. But not knocking you or anyone who has wanted the spend x amount on what they wanted!
Get what you want/what you can afford rather and get on that bank lol👍👍👍
In reply to Post #41
That's the gamble😀
That's the gamble😀
In reply to Post #4
I like nice gear and am not limited with what I spend, but my sticks are £15 Cygnet ones, because essentially that's all they are - sticks. Out of all my tackle they're one of the least likely things to get broken - they're far more likely to get nicked, expensive ones like the Korda especially so.
Doesn't make any difference to me if someone else wants to pay 50, 60, £100 for a set though. Go for it.
I like nice gear and am not limited with what I spend, but my sticks are £15 Cygnet ones, because essentially that's all they are - sticks. Out of all my tackle they're one of the least likely things to get broken - they're far more likely to get nicked, expensive ones like the Korda especially so.
Doesn't make any difference to me if someone else wants to pay 50, 60, £100 for a set though. Go for it.
In reply to Post #33
And you have named 2 UK companies that I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire
And you have named 2 UK companies that I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire
I think it is entirely up to the individual what they spend on their tackle, so to that end nothing is too much if that's what you want to do.
I've got a mixture of top end and some cheaper gear as it does exactly what I want. A fair bit of my gear is modified or customised for my particular fishing. A lot of the soft gear is Aqua Union Jack kit which is as good as the day it left the factory.
So buy what you wish, when you wish, for as much wedge as you wish.
But - and here's a big but - don't look down your nose at someone who hasn't spent a kings ransom on their gear. It doesn't mean you're better in any way than them, just that you have different priorities.
Maybe the guy with the cheaper gear is piling his spare cash into his pension for example. So when you are struggling to get a weekends fishing in between work, with your flash gear and flash huge 4x4, etc etc, he's retired early and doing 2 or 3 days mid week, whenever he fancies it, with his crap gear.
I've got a mixture of top end and some cheaper gear as it does exactly what I want. A fair bit of my gear is modified or customised for my particular fishing. A lot of the soft gear is Aqua Union Jack kit which is as good as the day it left the factory.
So buy what you wish, when you wish, for as much wedge as you wish.
But - and here's a big but - don't look down your nose at someone who hasn't spent a kings ransom on their gear. It doesn't mean you're better in any way than them, just that you have different priorities.
Maybe the guy with the cheaper gear is piling his spare cash into his pension for example. So when you are struggling to get a weekends fishing in between work, with your flash gear and flash huge 4x4, etc etc, he's retired early and doing 2 or 3 days mid week, whenever he fancies it, with his crap gear.
In reply to Post #46
Which two
Which two
In reply to Post #48
The last 2
The last 2
In reply to Post #49
The last two are reels and delkim
The last two are reels and delkim
In reply to Post #50
The last 2 companies
The last 2 companies
In reply to Post #51
In reply to Post #33
Are you sure the manufactured stuff is actually made in Britain ??
Use the carp porter for example,it Doesn't say so on the website all it says is designed in the uk.
I bet it's not that many Items that are actually made in the uk Anymore
Are you sure the manufactured stuff is actually made in Britain ??
Use the carp porter for example,it Doesn't say so on the website all it says is designed in the uk.
I bet it's not that many Items that are actually made in the uk Anymore
In reply to Post #53
I would agree.
I have a good quality log splitter designed and assembled by a British company, top end German and Swedish chainsaws, but I know for a fact that these companies, recognised as the elite in their field,
use China, Brazil etc for either some parts manufacture or even complete units.
I cannot see why fishing tackle companies would be any different.
I would agree.
I have a good quality log splitter designed and assembled by a British company, top end German and Swedish chainsaws, but I know for a fact that these companies, recognised as the elite in their field,
use China, Brazil etc for either some parts manufacture or even complete units.
I cannot see why fishing tackle companies would be any different.
In reply to Post #47
Spot on 👍
Spot on 👍
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