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Catchfish Catchfish
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Post #1 4 Jan 2018 06:51
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I seen someone handling their rigs and bait with gloves on so I asked why. Apparently the **** on your hands from fags will transfer on to the bait/rigs and the carp won't go near it cos they can sense the nicotine. I didn't really have much to say to that so just carried on to my swim. Anyway it got me thinking, wouldn't you contaminate the rig when wetting the knots with saliva? Any thoughts on this?
daveman daveman
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Post #2 4 Jan 2018 07:04
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In reply to Post #1
Seems a bit OTT to me
Pizza Pizza
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Post #3 4 Jan 2018 07:36
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I think it's all about confidence. Give it a try and if it adds to your confidence then why not? If it feels like a waste of time don't bother. Thinking about it whilst I don't smoke or use gloves I handle hookbaits as little as possible, never really thought why.

That said who's to say the nicotine won't add some form of attraction?
Skear Skear
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Post #4 4 Jan 2018 07:50
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Maybe the carp like the nicotine, and are gagging for it? 4 FAC18 A2 BAE6 4 B31 91 C4 7227 FEABDE9 A

My own opinion is, it's absolute nonsense, i used to smoke, and when putting bait out with a catapult, i used to put a few baits in my mouth at a time, and just hold the pouch to my mouth for another bait, it was like automated, and was a fast way of putting bait out. I still do it now at the right range, although i don't smoke now.

Anyway, it certainly never stopped me catching back then, and i honestly wouldn't give it a second thought. The only things i try not too contaminate bait with, are soap or wipes, or petrol for the stove.
H00kpul
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Post #5 4 Jan 2018 07:57
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In reply to Post #1
One reason I stopped using petrol stoves.
Smufter Smufter
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Post #6 4 Jan 2018 08:09
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In reply to Post #1
I found I was blanking whether I smoked or not, so have gone back on to 40 a day.
Pizza Pizza
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Post #7 4 Jan 2018 08:15
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DirkDiggler DirkDiggler
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Post #8 4 Jan 2018 08:19
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In reply to Post #1
I think carp actually can taste Tobacco somehow...my mates who smoke cigarettes always seem to do really well and since I started smoking cigars when fishing a few years ago my catch rate has gone up too

Dirky health warning...smoking cigars whilst fishing will keep knob heads away from your swim however death awaits ye
SlugHunter SlugHunter
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Post #9 4 Jan 2018 08:21
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In reply to Post #5
That's ok then mine last a week on one fill...
bmthman bmthman
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Post #11 4 Jan 2018 08:57
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I found the coughing when I used to smoke spooked carp in the margins.
H00kpul
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Post #12 4 Jan 2018 10:55
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In reply to Post #8
So does a jar of vasaline and some condoms in plain view!!
tazi tazi
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Post #13 4 Jan 2018 11:07
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I used to smoke for 30 years and caught fcuk all. Packed in now for 12 years and still fcuk all. Only another 18 to go.
Closet_Carper
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Post #14 4 Jan 2018 11:48
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In reply to Post #1
Sounds like a load of ******** to me. Chain smoking while fishing didn't stop Ivan Marks from catching a few.
zebedee zebedee
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Post #15 4 Jan 2018 13:54
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Some in the match angling seem to think that it does go into the bait. But that said I dont think it makes much of a difference. Bit like the old story of a womens scent. I've stopped wearing HRHs' perfume now as it was getting too costly.
vossy1 vossy1
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Post #16 4 Jan 2018 14:03
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I'd say it's up to him but from my match fishing days back in the 80's nearly evryone was always puffing away so if they think it's tosh and their livelyhood might suffer if it's true I'd say it doesn't make much difference.

Re petrol stoves, I hate getting petrol on my hands when Carp fishing as it makes me worry for the obvious reasons...but....in the states a quick spray of WD40 equiv is a favoured method for lure/jig fishing...go figure
nayfeee nayfeee
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Post #17 4 Jan 2018 14:34
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An old boy once told me when I was a lad that he'd had carp taking his fag ends off the surface in the margins when he'd been flicking them in. Might have been bull**** but I believed him at the time.
Innocenti Innocenti
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Post #19 4 Jan 2018 15:02
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I'd say smoking the funny hemp would have 'em queueing up to get caught
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oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #20 4 Jan 2018 15:02
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In reply to Post #1
I heard semen smeared all over your baits attracts the big female carp
give it a go let us know how you get on m8
SlugHunter SlugHunter
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Post #21 4 Jan 2018 15:11
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bristol bristol
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Post #23 4 Jan 2018 17:16
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Ivan Marks, one of the UK's greatest ever match fisherman would go through 40 fags in a 5 hour match (really! )

I wouldn't say it affected his catch rates...
framey framey
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Post #24 4 Jan 2018 17:34
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Ive seen this first hand
Fag butts chips all sorts thrown in the edge carp will have them.
Not saying they swallow the butts though lol
Smufter Smufter
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Post #25 4 Jan 2018 17:52
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In reply to Post #20
You've got to be a right tosser to try that....
ken
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Post #26 4 Jan 2018 18:16
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In reply to Post #20
That sounds like a hand made bait to me,
framey framey
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Post #27 4 Jan 2018 19:00
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In reply to Post #25
I said the same lol
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
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Post #28 4 Jan 2018 22:11
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The carp have evolved now and prefer an angler that vapes I'm told if you vape berry wicked cherry dinner lady super banana you'll bag up
jimimak jimimak
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Post #29 4 Jan 2018 22:48
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In reply to Post #1
I use gloves when using particularly fishy smelly glugged baits or some marine hail oil or similar, or when making up pva sticks or ground bait with the same in. I do have an overly sensitive nose though ...must have been a dog in a previous life
Catchfish Catchfish
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Post #30 5 Jan 2018 07:15
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I'll be giving the gloves a miss then. In the same boat with a petrol stove, I always manage to get it on my hands lol. Question about soap though, what do you use to wash bait buckets and bait making equipment with? I usually try and use just hot water but I find when you start using cod liver oil in your bait etc it really does stick to the bucket. Last time I used it I washed the bucket out like 5 times and you could still smell it lol
Skear Skear
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Post #31 5 Jan 2018 08:58
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I can re fill a stove easily without getting petrol on my hands. I carry fuel in a Sigg aluminium fuel bottle, i have the tops with the little spout on. No problem.

If you do get petrol on your hands, clean off with a big wipe, then a neutral wipe, done!

I carry a small tub of Big Wipes, as they protect against Weils disease, and the neutral wipes, to get rid of any soap or chemical smell.
shed shed
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Post #32 5 Jan 2018 09:02
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In reply to Post #20
Skear Skear
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Post #34 5 Jan 2018 11:06
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In reply to Post #33
Yeah, peace of mind mate, and hygene
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #35 5 Jan 2018 11:42
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In reply to Post #33
You'll get through 10 tubes of wipes in no time
framey framey
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Post #36 5 Jan 2018 17:21
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In reply to Post #31
But think of the weight of those 2 extra items lol
Who was the angler who made sure he didnt fill his car up the day he went fishing
Hearn?
I read it in a book somewhere
bmthman bmthman
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Post #38 7 Jan 2018 10:09
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In reply to Post #36
I read that many years ago in either a book or article by Jim Gibbinson.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #39 7 Jan 2018 10:27
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I've been racking my brains but that's it.
It was Jim Gibbinson in a Carpworld article.
I personally don't worry too much about such things.
I used to put a carrier bag on my hand while refilling a Coleman stove half way through a session though.

@post #37
I don't care where you do it
Smufter Smufter
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Post #40 7 Jan 2018 10:58
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In reply to Post #36
I had to put some Diesel in my car on the way to the lake early one morning. Bloody spilled it all over my hands and didn't get a knock all day.
There must be some still on them I reckon........
Catchfish Catchfish
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Post #41 7 Jan 2018 11:26
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Gonna start using gloves to fill the Coleman I think
Catchfish Catchfish
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Post #43 7 Jan 2018 12:36
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In reply to Post #42
I use it a lot and filling it once wouldn't be enough lol
bowlsky bowlsky
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Post #45 7 Jan 2018 20:30
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In reply to Post #44
Your not drinking enough tea then mate
Iwanttogofishin
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Post #48 22 Apr 2020 11:56
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I am really funny with anything that I think could taint a bait. I won't put fuel in my car on the day I go fishing, I handle hookbaits the minimum I can, I even don't use shower gel or anything like that on the day I go.

Not that it seems to make that much difference, I blank either way!
KenTownley KenTownley
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Post #49 22 Apr 2020 15:21
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Funny how you can drag up a thread that is over two years old just to spam your stupid vaping! If you want to stop smoking then stop! I wouldn't be seen dead walking down the street with a cloud of steam surrounding my head like some kind of Puffing Billy.

Get a 'kin life!
Cam Cam
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Post #50 22 Apr 2020 15:33
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Missed that...

cya
Prynen Prynen
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Post #51 14 Dec 2020 15:44
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harveyboy
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Post #52 14 Dec 2020 16:30
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Stupid pastime,as bad as smokers imo
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #53 14 Dec 2020 16:40
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I'm glad as a teen I never gave in to my mates trying to get me try smoking.Both my parents smoked and I hated it,my clothes used to stink of it.I think its a horrible habit and seeing pregnant women smoking really does boil my piss
TeeCee
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Post #54 14 Dec 2020 16:40
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Interesting topic.

Maddocks mentioned in Carp Fever the scientific studies on various different attractants, turns out that carp like snout (nicotine).
SilureMark
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Post #55 14 Dec 2020 19:18
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In reply to Post #1
Was it Ivan Marks who smoked like a trooper and yet won nearly every match he ever entered?

I used to smoke when I was young and stupid and never really thought that was the reason I'd blanked.

As to giving up smoking - I found you need to want to give up. Once your mind set is made up, it's then pretty easy. One morning I was waiting for the train into the city and thought, that's it. Fags went in the bin and have never smoked since, just like that. I smoked until I was 32, giving that up was a wise move. I just can't fathom why I even started, peer pressure I suppose and the need to fit in. Must say, I used to enjoy a fag when I was fishing - kind gave you gave you something to do when session fishing. Don't miss it though, not one bit.

Vaping? Don't kid yourself, it is still smoking and time will tell, but I bet that's hardly doing your chances of dying early from cancer any favours either.
Doing_a_brew Doing_a_brew
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Post #56 15 Dec 2020 00:08
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In reply to Post #53
Me too, never even tried it. My Mum died 2 months ago of lung cancer, aged 61, and my Dad has been given a few weeks left at 66 - he's got throat and bladder cancer. Both have smoked since their teens.

Should be enough to put anyone off, but the addiction is so strong it doesn't make any difference.
Spod Spod
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Post #57 15 Dec 2020 09:05
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I have smoked on and off for the last 30 odd years, however, in the last 12 years or so i have only smoked when fishing....I can go for weeks between sessions without even thinking about ciggies then go through 20 or 30 in a session....only said to the missus yesterday how stupid that is but that is me all over, bit of a binger!

Not fishing now until New Year so am going to have a concerted effort to kick the fags into touch once and for all.
bumperboy bumperboy
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Post #58 15 Dec 2020 12:16
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In reply to Post #57
Had the hypnosis 5 years ago.

Best thing I ever did!
bumperboy bumperboy
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Post #59 15 Dec 2020 12:24
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In reply to Post #58
Indirectly I'd say its caught me more fish too.

I'd always pack up if I was running out of fags, I don't have that worry now...... In fact my mate was about to pack up once as he'd run out and I gave him the rest of mine as I was going. 3 hours later he had a 35.8 fully scaled mirror undoubtedly one of the best fish around.
tazi tazi
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Post #60 15 Dec 2020 12:29
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Used to smoke for 30 years then gave up and not had one for 12 years or so. I purchased an electronic cigarette few months ago and fill it with kuku juice that has no nicotine so there's nothing addictive and I've noticed no effects on my health either. It's just the movement of hand to mouth and inhaling it for something to do whilst sitting there.
Belch Belch
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Post #61 18 Dec 2020 15:10
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In reply to Post #1
. . .from experience - its total bs.

My first season on a difficult and weedy water back in 2000 almost resulted in a blank for the entire season. I used to smoke rollies back then (chain smoking whilst fishing especially) and went through the 'latex glove' stage as I became fraught with my lack of success and paranoid that I was tainting baits. I even used a Nash boilie grabber (as well as gloves) even on un-glugged hookbaits . . .

Once I'd caught it all clicked and I realised that my nicotine ridden fingers had f all to do with it . . .I'd switched baits to Essential B5 and the gloves and boilie grabber got binned . . .
runneil runneil
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Post #62 18 Dec 2020 16:12
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In reply to Post #61
Pretty sure there's more to worry about if you smoke than whether it effects your fishing or not 🤔
mark1009
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Post #63 18 Dec 2020 18:26
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I'm sorry I can't remember the man's name but back in the day a big carp was caught from billing aquadrome. The story I read of the capture included details of how the bait was prepared with nicotine tainted fingers so that the hookbait would be the same as the hookbait on the day. There's not much new in angling. The vast majority is recycled. Read Izaakk Walton.
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