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Virginia Water, Windsor (164 posts / 37,999 views)
malarkey
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Post #1 29 May 2016 18:23
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Has anyone fished Virginia Water? I didnt realise the lake was that big, any idea on membership cost, is it really £1000 per annum. Any idea on stock?
troutybrown
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Post #3 29 May 2016 19:41
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In reply to Post #1
Yep a grand.

http://www.windsorgreatpark.co.uk/media/235780/windsor-great-park-fishing-syndicate-application-form-2016.pdf
CarpyRees CarpyRees
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Post #4 29 May 2016 19:52
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Maybe Queenie needs the extra income
Enut Enut
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Post #6 29 May 2016 22:44
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In reply to Post #1
If money is no object then you will be fishing one of the most beautiful lakes in the country. However don't expect it to be easy.

I have fished Virginia Water on and off for the last 10 years, unfortunately only for probably a maximum of 20 -30 days over that whole period but I had a ticket last year (one of very few that did). I have a very good friend who lives locally and I have joined it and fished with him purely on a social basis over that period. I live nearly 100 miles away and VW has always been day only fishing. By the way it is very rare to see anyone fishing it now.

By the looks of it the syndicate is getting access to the parts of the lake that have previously not been fishable, but interestingly a lot of the areas now marked 'out of bounds' have been fishable for many years. If they are keeping a season ticket for those areas then I would suggest getting both but I suspect they will do away with the standard 'day only' season ticket.

Don't expect large numbers of big fish either, most of the stock are commons from 10-20lb. However I have no doubt that the lake probably contains a few large carp that have never (to my knowledge) been caught. My friend, who lives locally, has probably caught 200 fish from Virginia water over the years, he hasn't even had a 20. He has also caught next to nothing over the last 5 years. We have no idea why the fishing has become so difficult, but possible the water has been targeted by individuals that take fish for the table.

IF I lived locally and had a lot of spare time I might consider joining, unfortunately I can't justify £1,000. I had actually decided not to join for £80 next season. I will still visit my mate but we will do a few days on the Thames instead.

In summary it is a huge, beautiful lake with I hope some unknown, uncaught monsters. A 30lb fish from there would be a fish of a lifetime, a 40 or 50? Yes possible. Is it worth £1,000? Not for me, no.
Enut Enut
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Post #8 29 May 2016 23:04
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In reply to Post #7
Might have done Josh, I thought the stock was well known in there and went to low 30's but I am probably 5 years out of date on that!

My answer was just about VW, I haven't fished Obelisk.
Enut Enut
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Post #10 30 May 2016 10:58
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In reply to Post #9
I don't doubt you at all Josh.

If I lived nearer and had the available time I would also consider joining. I absolutely love the place, to me it was very much fishing the unknown and that was the appeal. Interesting to see that there is no new parking for the syndicate so it's still a hell of a walk to most of the swims at least you know once you get there that you can be on for 3 days rather than the day sessions I have fished on there.


malarkey
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Post #11 30 May 2016 11:19
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In reply to Post #10
Hmmmm, does seem a bit steep if the stocking isnt much. I did wonder if it held a few lumps, but to fish for perhaps a handful in 130 acres isnt so appealing.

Its a beautiful place, those reed line banks are amazing. The place is huge.
kells kells
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Post #12 30 May 2016 22:08
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Is this the same water as recently fished by Simon crow in the windsor area that's opening up as a syndicate??
kells kells
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Post #14 30 May 2016 22:18
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In reply to Post #13
No sorry Josh I don't. But it's defiantly in the Windsor area might even be in the grounds of the Castle? Apparently it was being filmed for Nash tackle..
Riggy Riggy
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Post #16 31 May 2016 18:31
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In reply to Post #15
It is VW in the article (last weeks carp talk) that Simon crow is fishing and has the good fortune to have a couple including a 30

Michael
Enut Enut
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Post #18 31 May 2016 21:11
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In reply to Post #16
I'd be really interested to see that too. I know they had opened up the north bank last season to a select few in order to try and assess the stock.
Enut Enut
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Post #19 31 May 2016 21:17
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In reply to Post #18
Given that they're opening it up as a syndicate I'm very surprised they didn't name the venue. Was it VW or Obelisk?
MiniWelsh MiniWelsh
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Post #20 1 Jun 2016 07:25
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In reply to Post #19
Definitely VW as Obelisk gets a separate mention. Fished it many years ago on a feeder and caught well, bream and wildies at c.4lb. If I still lived in the area I would definitely consider joining
yonny yonny
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Post #21 1 Jun 2016 13:57
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Does anyone know if it's true this place was stocked with fish from Donald Leney in the 50's?
Enut Enut
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Post #22 1 Jun 2016 15:16
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In reply to Post #21
I don't know about that but it is mentioned in one of Chris Ball's books. A 26lb carp was found dead there in 1926 so it certainly has history!
yonny yonny
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Post #23 1 Jun 2016 16:49
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In reply to Post #22
Christ, that would have been a record at the time I think?
yonny yonny
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Post #25 2 Jun 2016 07:49
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In reply to Post #24
No mate. It sounds awesome.
I thought it had been well fished in the past and the bigger carp were known? I suppose with a water like that anything is possible though.....
Enut Enut
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Post #26 2 Jun 2016 17:57
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In reply to Post #25
Obelisk has been well fished and is pretty much a known quantity wrt the stock etc.

VW is a completely different thing. Not least because it is about 300 acres (I think) and you have previously only been able to fish about 1/3 of it.
The_Saint The_Saint
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Post #28 1 Jul 2016 09:27
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In reply to Post #27
were they successful?
Enut Enut
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Post #30 2 Jul 2016 11:32
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In reply to Post #29
The ability to night fish, fish a long session, fish previously unfishable areas etc etc and they had one 30?

I think you can assume that £1,000 is a lot of money for a water that does not give up her (crown) jewels easily.
kutzzy kutzzy
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Post #31 2 Jul 2016 12:01
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In reply to Post #30
Looks awesome but too far for me ...... Plus my pockets arent deep enough
Anyway if someone could put the link up for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOt872iC0tE
scaley&dark
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Post #32 2 Jul 2016 15:22
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In reply to Post #31
Nice video
Stunning venue if you like the unknown, and have the money, and plenty of time to graft at it.

Enut Enut
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Post #33 2 Jul 2016 16:21
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In reply to Post #32
For the sake of the lake I hope that they closely vet all of the syndicate applicants. It is a beautiful unspoilt water BUT as you put would certainly need a lot of time and effort to succeed. If anyone is thinking that for £1000 you will get umpteen 20's 30's and 40's in a season then I suggest that they think again.

I love the lake, love the thought of the unknown and can afford the cost, sadly the fact that it is 90 odd miles away and I hardly get time to fish nowadays means I won't be fishing it now. Good luck to all that do though, in a way I would love to see what it produces but then again maybe I wouldn't, to me its main attraction was always the appeal of the unknown.
Enut Enut
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Post #35 2 Jul 2016 17:26
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In reply to Post #34
Agree with all that Josh however I don't think the syndicate is going to help policing the water, after all they can only fish the north bank can't they. I can't see member's walking round the whole lake before setting up, after all that takes about 3 hours! 120 acres btw, I thought it was more like 300.
Fozzy Fozzy
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aka Elephant Man
aka Elephant Man Post #37 2 Jul 2016 20:13
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In reply to Post #36
You've only got tiny legs though half pint.....
ralph69 ralph69
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Post #38 2 Jul 2016 20:33
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In reply to Post #37
Like E.T
The_Saint The_Saint
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Post #40 3 Jul 2016 07:46
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In reply to Post #39
Not too sure about the pike population as the easterns made huge inroads into them

Lovely looking place, and a £1000 for an eel ticket is quite alot for me!
Fozzy Fozzy
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aka Elephant Man
aka Elephant Man Post #41 3 Jul 2016 08:01
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In reply to Post #38
His stories are about as believable mate
CarpingOnVW CarpingOnVW
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Post #43 15 Aug 2016 14:15
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Has anybody else got a permit for it yet?

I've just started, I've caught every session so far. Who else is about?

CarpingOnVW CarpingOnVW
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Post #45 16 Aug 2016 08:28
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In reply to Post #44
Believe there's only 5 of us on there so far..

But eagerly want to meet the others.

You put an application in?
CarpingOnVW CarpingOnVW
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Post #46 2 Sep 2016 10:07
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anyone else joined yet?
ralph69 ralph69
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Post #48 3 Sep 2016 14:27
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In reply to Post #47
Had a walk round Tuesday afternoon , at least twenty fish down by the burger van .
Only saw one dangler on the whole lake
Enut Enut
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Post #49 3 Sep 2016 20:38
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In reply to Post #48
One more than we used to see when we fished it!
Enut Enut
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Post #51 4 Sep 2016 09:20
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In reply to Post #50
Fished the A30 end 3/4 years ago on the first day of the season. Bailiff came round at about 10 am and confirmed we were the only two on the lake. A short while later 2 bream anglers turned up. After a brief chat they set up right next to us and one of them proceeded to cast over my line! He then came out with the classic 'you've got caught up with my line mate!'

Sadly you even get idiots on VW, not now obviously, not at £1,000!
Enut Enut
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Post #54 11 Sep 2016 21:49
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In reply to Post #53
In my experience the fish on the main lake would rarely show (as in head and shoulder).

We always thought that this was one of the reasons it wasn't heavily fished, lots of people walk around it and I'm pretty sure of the fish showed a lot the many more would have tried to catch them!
ralph69 ralph69
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Post #55 11 Sep 2016 23:07
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In reply to Post #50
Would with you're casting
CarpingOnVW CarpingOnVW
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Post #57 12 Sep 2016 11:56
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In reply to Post #52
Should have popped over and said hello!

That was me and my mate.

Down there most weekends. if you see two people fishing close with bikes and trailers come pop over.
CarpingOnVW CarpingOnVW
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Post #59 12 Sep 2016 12:36
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In reply to Post #58
Yeah we done alright that night.. the arm always looks good for a bite,

Just need to find the route they take to get down there!


dave,ellis dave,ellis
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Post #60 17 Sep 2016 15:30
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In reply to Post #59
Had a couple of 30s from there over 15 years ago !

Quality place... Although I haven't laid eyes on it for over 10 years !
theheron theheron
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Post #61 17 Sep 2016 22:23
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In reply to Post #60
Nice. Any pictures?
dave,ellis dave,ellis
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Post #62 23 Sep 2016 20:43
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In reply to Post #61
Somewhere ? Probably in my mums garage !

I also know of a 37 again some years back !
gardenman gardenman
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Post #63 7 Jun 2017 21:19
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In reply to Post #1
yep its a £1000 a year mate just going to join in the next week or so
Enut Enut
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Post #65 8 Jun 2017 23:28
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In reply to Post #63
Good Luck! It's a beautiful water with, I'm sure, some secrets.

I would love to keep up to date with what comes out (by PM if necessary) even though it's unlikely I will ever fish VW again.
twils
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Post #66 17 May 2018 13:37
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Hi Guys,

I have won a 48 hour session on Viginia Water 1st June 2018.

Anyone got any tips/ pointers to help try land a carp....

I know location is vital especially as I have never fished a lake this size...

Any areas of interest this times of year?


Cheers
Enut Enut
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Post #68 18 May 2018 22:46
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In reply to Post #66
Are you able to get down and bait up? If so then I would get down a few times, have walk round and pick a couple of swims that you fancy and try to bait them a few times before your session. One of the problems however is that a lot of the areas look 'carpy'!

Maybe try getting to speak to the members and ask their advice, they might give you some pointers, after all you're only on for one session - unless you like it so much you join!

It's a stunning lake, catch or not you'll enjoy it.

Good luck and please pm me if you get a result and don't want to post it on the forum!

gardenman gardenman
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Post #69 20 May 2018 11:04
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In reply to Post #66
Have been. A member now for 9 months ish. Love the lake. Would Join again as so nice and u get left to fish
It's not a hard water. But the walk is hard and dew to it's size it's hard to find the fish. But u find them u have them out. Wind fish go with it all the time. And there a silt gravel seam find that and the fish find the bait. It's the biggest estate lake in uk at 139 acre. Walking the banks is the hards part to find fish as north bank is all hills. Fish do not show or not very much may just brake the water blink u miss them. It's a beast of a lake with drop off filled with muscles that cut of the line like cotton. But it's lovey and some good fish to be had out. A good mix of fish commons and mirrors fish out to just under the 40lb just time till a over 40 comes out.
rivers rivers
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Post #70 20 May 2018 14:17
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In reply to Post #69
£1,000 is a lot for a ticket though , well it is to me lol
scaley&dark
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Post #71 20 May 2018 14:59
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In reply to Post #70
£1,000 is a lot for a ticket

That's to keep the 'commoner carpers' out of the grounds

MiniWelsh MiniWelsh
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Post #73 20 May 2018 21:21
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In reply to Post #72
Many happy memories fishing in the park for bream and wildies mainly. Your right Josh in that your never short of a decent view!
The_Saint The_Saint
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Post #74 21 May 2018 08:01
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In reply to Post #73
Fished the park many moons ago, would love a ticket now, but 1k is half a family holiday for the year.
Reduce the cost by half, and now we're talking
The_Saint The_Saint
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Post #76 21 May 2018 11:58
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In reply to Post #75
was always 3 lakes, Virginia water, obelisk and Johnsons
Parkies were not interested back in the day, we used to photocopy the tickets and pass them around our mates, hid in the rhodies while night fishing etc. Wish we could go back to those sort of times. Never had any bother at all, except one night where my moped lights and mirrors were smashed up, I still today think it was the parkies who did it as a warning to keep away from night fishing the lakes They didn't.....
twils
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Post #77 21 May 2018 13:25
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In reply to Post #68
I will definitely ask the question of whether i can bait up so I can hopefully hold them in an area, or at least getting them visiting....

If I can speak to any members i will definitely try to pick their brains- realistically its a bit to far and out of my price range to join the syndicate....thats one of the reasons i am so excited to spend 48 hours there!!!

If I am lucky enough I will definitely post one!
twils
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Post #78 21 May 2018 13:27
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In reply to Post #69
Gardenman---------------Have you had many out in the 9 months you have been a member?

CarpingOnVW CarpingOnVW
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Post #79 29 May 2018 11:07
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In reply to Post #77
I'm on my second season on there so far, feel free to pm.

I do believe you'll be doing a draw for the swims..

CarpingOnVW CarpingOnVW
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Post #81 11 Jun 2018 11:02
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In reply to Post #80
FIsh were also up 5 arch arm, and in wick pond bay.

Didn't see any monsters.. but they're about!
scaley&dark
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Post #82 11 Jun 2018 17:52
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In reply to Post #80
Cycled round it twice today, spent plenty of time looking and only saw ...

Dog walkers, Sun bathers, Joggers and Yummy mummys
LOL

Enut Enut
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Post #83 11 Jun 2018 21:38
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In reply to Post #82
A few years ago all we used to see was bream and small commons sunbathing on the hot days, especially up the shallower arms.

Once however my mate did see a shoal of 20-30 lb mirrors up the American arm and that was probably 15 years ago, certainly before they restocked. He said there were about 10 of them. He also once saw a very big common clear the water.

Are you guys seeing any of the bigger fish during your circuits or are you too distracted by the yummy mummies?
CarpingOnVW CarpingOnVW
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Post #85 12 Jun 2018 09:25
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In reply to Post #84
Josh:

Obby is still fishable, quite a large stock in there.. done 36 hours a few weeks back and had 20+ fish out up to 27lb.

Enut:

Which one is the american arm? - i too have been wandering round on the hot days in search of the shoal of bigger fish.. We saw smaller fish in 5 arch arm.. The biggest was probably around mid to high 20. We wondered down to the 'swamp' The smaller waterfall from wicks pond. There was an abundance of fish there.. Couldn't gauge sizes but nothing huge.
CarpingOnVW CarpingOnVW
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Post #87 12 Jun 2018 10:24
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In reply to Post #86
Parking is at saville gardens so it's a 2 min walk to get to the lake. Honesty we aren't sure. since the syndicate the biggest out i believe is just over 30.. I've seen one much bigger than that by the bridge.

There's also something in there that keeps snapping people off!
Jaspertinto
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Post #88 12 Jun 2018 10:46
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In reply to Post #87
Catfish?
CarpingOnVW CarpingOnVW
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Post #89 12 Jun 2018 11:03
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In reply to Post #88
It's a possibility.
Enut Enut
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Post #90 12 Jun 2018 13:45
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In reply to Post #85
The Amercian Arm, is the one that goes up towards Johnsons.

Interestingly I was also told that they drained and netted Johnsons once. It was and still is absolutely full of small commons. When they netted it they put two fish from there into VW. Both were mirrors over 40!
CarpingOnVW CarpingOnVW
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Post #92 13 Jun 2018 09:20
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In reply to Post #90
Ah okay, thank you for the clarification! i'll see if i can find out about the mirrors!

CarpingOnVW CarpingOnVW
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Post #93 19 Jun 2018 10:47
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In reply to Post #90
Rumours, have been told it's not true. But there is 'known' to be a couple of large mirrors!
Enut Enut
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Post #94 19 Jun 2018 19:54
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In reply to Post #93
Yea, might well be rumours. That's part of the beauty of VW though, it's so big and virtually unfished until last year that it could well hold a number of uncaught monsters. And by that I mean fish that have grown to big weight naturally, not fed by anglers' bait.
CarpingOnVW CarpingOnVW
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Post #96 20 Jun 2018 09:21
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In reply to Post #94
Yeah, a few guys are slowly mapping it out.

Its bizarre, All the 'big fish' get seen up till June, then they just disappear?! don't get seen sun bathing, in the edge or anywhere. The big common has been sighted a few times since last year they don't want to put an estimate on it but it would dwarf a 35lb..
Enut Enut
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Post #97 20 Jun 2018 09:42
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Imagine how frustrating it was when you could only day fish it........and not fish the vast majority of it anyway.
CarpingOnVW CarpingOnVW
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Post #98 20 Jun 2018 10:40
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In reply to Post #97
Yeah- i'd of strongly dislike it! but there was a bit of night poaching going on.. heard many stories now haha.

Alot of fish have been caught on that bank now. I personally had one of the 30lb mirrors from the swims just past the ruins when on a social!
Enut Enut
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Post #99 5 Jul 2018 12:05
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In reply to Post #97
This has just popped up on YouTube -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPPbm7FO4mI

Not my sort of video but does summarise the lake quite well, very beautiful but doesn't give up the carp easily.

Also looks like a lot of anglers at the start so maybe this was an invitation only weekend or something, anyone on the forum fish it? I wonder if anything got caught?

TheHappyMan
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Post #100 9 Dec 2018 19:52
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In reply to Post #23
I fished Virginia water since I was a kid , when i got serious about the carp, I went to vw livery there is a book all about the history of the lake , and the is a picture of the receipt from Surrey trout farm in 1952 for a delivery of carp for the lake..
Gaius_Bell
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Post #101 12 Dec 2018 22:42
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Sounds a fascinating place to fish. Modern carp fishing is certainly becoming a rich mans sport. £1000 syndicate fees! I wonder what it will go up to in the future!
rivers rivers
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Post #103 13 Dec 2018 21:17
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In reply to Post #102
Wasn't it £15 a year in the 80s lol
The crown estate has got very greedy ,
Enut Enut
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Post #104 14 Dec 2018 16:39
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It was £65 per annum 3 years ago, the last time I fished it. HOWEVER you were very restricted in the fishing, you could only fish one bank and could only fish during the day. I think only a handful of people joined.

Isn't it ironic that increasing the cost to £1,000 per annum was thought of as s good idea when no one joined at £65 per annum!
rivers rivers
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Post #105 14 Dec 2018 17:45
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Very ironic lol
My club had given up there stretch of the thames at datchet , because of another greedy rise £7,000 , they even hired an independent to see what the lease was worth , the figure was much less than that , but the crown won't play , shame as the club had the rights for nearly 80 years .
The_Saint The_Saint
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Post #106 14 Dec 2018 18:32
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In reply to Post #103
Yep, 15 quid per year and a mate who had work experience in an office, photocopied a permit and gave copies to our little gang.
TheHappyMan
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Post #107 27 Dec 2018 16:14
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In reply to Post #103
I paid £3.70 for my first ever permit.. does anyone every rember the angling times annual match they used to hold on there , every peg all around the lake was taken and top match fishing names from around the country fished it .
Rob_vw
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Post #108 29 Jan 2019 19:55
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Evening all if any of you guys need any info on Virginia water drop me a message.😂
KenTownley KenTownley
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Post #109 30 Jan 2019 07:21
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In reply to Post #103
It was free in the late 60s/early 70s!
meonchap
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Post #110 1 Mar 2019 23:24
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In reply to Post #109
I was over at Yateley Angling this afternoon. There was a bunch of leaflets in one of the boxes by the entrance door talking about this place - says the price is £600 a year for two lakes, available from 01 April.
Enut Enut
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Post #111 2 Mar 2019 13:23
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In reply to Post #110
Well that's down from £1,000 last year then.

I'm guessing that none of the rumoured uncaught monsters got caught then, or if they did they certainly didn't get publicised! TBF it's a huge lake, even with a fair bit of pressure, which I doubt it gets, fish could go uncaught for many years.
KenTownley KenTownley
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Post #112 2 Mar 2019 13:35
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When we fished it back in the day there were loads of big tench and roach in there. Never saw a carp but that doesn't mean they weren't there. Mind you, any we'd have seen back then would be by now!
meonchap
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Post #113 2 Mar 2019 18:02
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In reply to Post #112
just checked their website - that's saying there will be a new price from April as well. £600 for a year sounds pretty reasonable, especially if you like big venues. I'm new to this area, so think I'll be having a look.
MiniWelsh MiniWelsh
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Post #114 2 Mar 2019 18:20
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In reply to Post #113
If you can afford do it. Used to love fishing there whilst at uni down the road. Was all feeder for bream and roach but the Obelisk held quite a few wildies which used to be fun. Never carp fished, as per Ken never knew there were any in the main lake, but a nice place to angle
TheHappyMan
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Post #115 2 Mar 2019 18:44
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In reply to Post #112
It was stocked with leneys from Surrey trout farm back in the 50s.
Enut Enut
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Post #116 2 Mar 2019 19:50
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In reply to Post #115
26lb common carp found dead in 1920's (I think) according to Chris Ball's book, so the lake obviously has some history!
manic manic
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Post #117 2 Mar 2019 20:57
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In reply to Post #116
Rules,rules.rulse.rules ffs
meonchap
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Post #118 3 Mar 2019 00:24
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In reply to Post #114
It certainly looks good - there's a short video about it (with Simon Crow) which I've just watched, and even at £600 I reckon I'd get my money's worth out of it over a whole year. Rules say you can fish for 5 days on, 3 off - that's a possible 225+ days in a year, less than £3 per day if you did the lot! Can't do that myself but still looks pretty good value. Going to have to get myself fit though, judging by the size of it haha.
Enut Enut
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Post #119 3 Mar 2019 12:45
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In reply to Post #118
Have you walked round it yet? If not then do so, you'll fall in love with the place.

duggs
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Post #121 3 Mar 2019 13:42
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In reply to Post #120
Are boats allowed? Would be handy on a water that size.

Seems to hold an element of mystery for sure.
When was the last stocking and from where if anyone knows?
Enut Enut
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Post #122 3 Mar 2019 15:00
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Haha, that reminds me of a story........

A few years ago they used to allow bait boats on VW. They also hired out the grounds for filming feature films etc.

I think it was one of the early Harry Potter films, where they spent ages setting up a scene with a very atmospheric setting of the lake in the background, they spent hours setting it up, hours.

Anyway the director was finally happy, action was called and the actors started doing their acting bit when suddenly the director shouts 'CUT!.... WHAT THE F ***** HELL IS THAT?' Sure enough chugging across the background out in the lake was a bait boat! Bait boats were banned from then on.

Someone will now tell me that this is an urban myth, but it's a good one anyway!
Enut Enut
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Post #123 3 Mar 2019 15:04
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I was told that 600 small mirrors (6-8lb) were stocked into VW a few years ago, probably 8-10 years ago (at a guess), I know my friend had a few small, very pretty mirrors out of there before he stopped catching.

In my opinion these are the mirrors that are being caught now, into the 30's.
meonchap
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Post #124 3 Mar 2019 15:54
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Rules say 'no bait boats' - not a problem for me 'cos I haven't got one!

I'm going for a first look around, probably Tuesday, as the forecast looks fair, then booking a 'tour' (that's what it's offering on the leaflet). I'm hoping they've also got some photos of the fish - would be nice to see what's swimming around in there. I'll ask them about the lake stocking if I get a chance.
duggs
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Post #125 3 Mar 2019 16:51
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OK will be nice to know. Where did you find the rules? I had a quick look but couldn't find them on the site?
meonchap
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Post #126 3 Mar 2019 17:01
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not easy to find, had to trawl around the website - here's the link - just copy/paste in your browser

http://www.windsorgreatpark.co.uk/media/396070/fishing-syndicate-tc-2019-2.pdf?instance=0
duggs
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Post #127 3 Mar 2019 17:08
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Thanks
meonchap
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Post #128 5 Mar 2019 18:35
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Went for a look round late this afternoon with a chap from the syndicate called Rob. The small lake looked very good for a spot of short session fishing, especially with the car park close by. Got some decent old mirrors in there up to 30+, and some of them look really old.

The big lake - bloody hell !! - where to start? Its over 4 miles around the lake edge, only got 50 swims, and we looked at a number of spots which have produced fish recently. I saw photos of some cracking fish - a mix of mirrors, commons, linears and a few large ghosties. Rob reckons they've had 19 different 30+ fish recorded since they started fishing it seriously, up to a top weight of just shy of 40lbs, and he's working on getting some of the photos uploaded to a new syndicate FB page they're setting up.

There's no records on site of any fish stock being introduced, but Rob did know of the supposed Leney 'link', and they've already sent photos of some of the older bigger fish to a known Leney expert, who thinks the oldest stock is most likely descended from a possible 1950s stock introduction mentioned in Leney's own diary. Got some big pike and big eels in there as well.

Recce work to try and find out where the fish might be is going to be time well spent, and you can use the car park pass whenever you want, even if you're not fishing. If you can't find the time to walk round, Rob says the syndicate bailiffs will always give you the latest info if you ask them. Could be a longish push to get the barrow to the furthest swims away from the car parks, so an electric barrow will be a good investment, or just travel as light as possible.

Looks to be a real challenge, pretty much untapped, and very different to places I've fished before. A lot of fishing for the money, so I've put my name on the applicants list, but can't join before April 1st.
Simon1234 Simon1234
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Post #129 8 Mar 2019 10:49
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Hi did he say how many people are currently in the syndicate?
meonchap
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Post #130 8 Mar 2019 11:37
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Didn't say how many were on board - just said membership was available. I expect the price reduction is going to pull a few in - that's why I got in quick, just in case it fills right up.
Simon1234 Simon1234
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Post #131 8 Mar 2019 14:50
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I almost joined last year but the price this year is tempting
Simon1234 Simon1234
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Post #132 8 Mar 2019 14:50
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I almost joined last year but the price this year is tempting
meonchap
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Post #133 9 Mar 2019 08:08
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That's what I thought when I saw the leaflet. Not knowing the lakes, I'm glad I went along and had a look. Just waiting to hear now if I've got a place - fingers crossed!
Simon1234 Simon1234
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Post #134 9 Mar 2019 09:37
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I've emailed to request a tour but I'm going to pop along today to look at some of the lake I'm not too familiar with.
It's says on last years form that they want to check references? What sort of references?
meonchap
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Post #135 9 Mar 2019 09:59
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I didn't get asked to provide any references - it was just a sort of informal chat and discussion about what I've done fishing-wise, where I've fished before, PBs, did I know about the lakes etc. It was more Rob telling me about how it all worked, got to see a photo album of some of their recent catches and a good look round the two lakes. Expect that's what you'll get if you're going on the same tour as I did. Enjoy your tour - its an impressive place.
meonchap
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Post #136 18 Mar 2019 10:16
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Postman's just been - I'm a happy chappy today Can't wait to get down there and get started.
Simon1234 Simon1234
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Post #137 18 Mar 2019 10:49
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Nice one. I had a chat with Andy and just waiting to go round with rob my last visit got cancelled due to the park being closed because of high winds. I was glad to hear they are only taking 50 people on. They only had 18 last year.
meonchap
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Post #138 18 Mar 2019 11:18
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Sounds good - they told me the same, and they also said there's a good response to the new price, so prob was a good idea to get in early. There's 50 swims on VWater, so even if everyone turned up on the same day (highly unlikely!) you'd all still have a spot to fish from, which is good. Only 11 swims on the Obelisk, much smaller than VWater, but it still looks well good. Make sure you ask to see the photo album before you leave if they don't show it to you during your trip round - some nice fish in there. They also have a closed FB page of their own - only just getting started, but will be used as their photo gallery - might be worth asking to get on that as well to see whats getting caught. Was fairly busy with walkers on the day I went round, but they don't seem to interfere with the anglers - perhaps the odd dog off a lead barging in, but you can get that anywhere, I suppose. Good luck with it - hope you get a place. (and I hope you're feeling fit - its bloody huge! )
Simon1234 Simon1234
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Post #139 24 Mar 2019 18:31
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Andy said he'll be getting my acceptance letter sent out Monday so I'll be heading down there on the 1st with my money. He said he's processed about 40 inquiries so far and I think Total carp magazine we're going to be advertising on their stall at the big one show this weekend so it looks like they'll get the full 50 members.
meonchap
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Post #140 24 Mar 2019 21:18
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Not sure I'll get down there on the 1st, but hopefully later in the week. Was told they've got to get some sort of gizmo sorted first, which takes your photo and produces an ID card - that's why you can't pay before 1st April apparently. As to the syndicate filling up, I wonder if all those enquiries have actually all signed up, or even been sent letters? Maybe that's just how many have enquired (been processed) to date?

I went to the Big One show on Saturday - can't recall seeing the Total Carp stand, but I did see the syndicate leaflets out on a couple of other stands (Sonik was one of them - there was a syndicate banner on display there as well).
Simon1234 Simon1234
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Post #141 24 Mar 2019 21:53
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There was a guy that was meant to go on the tour when I was there but he didn't turn up. I think the 40 processed were just enquires that he had replied to.
meonchap
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Post #142 27 Mar 2019 00:02
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Spoke to Andy earlier today. He told me syndicate is now over 50% full and still receiving enquiries. Been dealing with them in receipt order but won't be keeping this going for much longer. They've had a few punters booking the tour then not turning up, so they've now slipped down from their original positions on the application list.

I'm going to try and make time at the weekend to walk the paths from the car parks - last thing I want on the first visit is to get lost pushing a bloody fully-loaded barrow! There is a map available, but the paths through the woodland are not entirely clear.
Simon1234 Simon1234
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Post #143 27 Mar 2019 07:44
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My mate got accepted today they said to him that they'd sent out 40 or had 40 enquires. I imagine it'll be full up soon.
Rob_vw
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Post #144 27 Mar 2019 19:56
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Evening guys just like to say hi. ive been watching the chat for the last few weeks now. some of you have meet me already. my names rob and im head bailiff on vw. I am working very closely with a chap called andy. we are trying to get as much information out as possible. so if you do have anymore questions give me a message.
Simon1234 Simon1234
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Post #145 28 Mar 2019 17:24
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Thanks rob.
meonchap
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Post #146 2 Apr 2019 11:04
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hi Rob - just to say thanks to you and Andy for the email info pack I got this morning - very useful
TheHappyMan
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Post #147 2 Apr 2019 11:36
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Hi rob, is there any pick up for anglers from the car parks to the north bank ?
Also I used to fish it years ago for carp I had a 28 mirror with a heavily damaged mouth , has that ever shown up in recent years ?
Enut Enut
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Post #148 2 Apr 2019 13:12
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That fish was certainly around when I fished it, was just over 30lb and had been out a few times, certainly up to about 4/5 years ago.
TheHappyMan
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Post #149 2 Apr 2019 18:20
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I had it in 1996 , glad to hear that .
Rob_vw
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Post #150 2 Apr 2019 19:04
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Hi all hope we are all well? Regarding some of the questions asked we are in talks with management about doing a swim drop of service. So a work in progress. The fish with the the bad mouth has not been out all the bigger fish have been in perfect condition. But I will keep my eyes open for it. Guys if you have any pictures of your old Catcher I'll be interested in seeing.
Simon1234 Simon1234
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Post #152 2 Apr 2019 20:49
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I agree. some of them swims furthest from car parks could be very rewarding to someone willing to put in some effort. Plus surely it's a better to have a look around before settling on a certain swim?
Enut Enut
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Post #153 2 Apr 2019 21:47
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Agreed, I used to drive 90 miles and then barrow about a mile to a swim, all for a day session.

Made the occassional catch more pleasing. But each to their own.
scaley&dark
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Post #154 2 Apr 2019 23:09
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encourages campers - I'll agree with that.

However with a swim drop off service, the only exception IMHO is someone that is an older person, suffering ill health or is genuinely disabled.

People with simply too much tackle and gear, don't apply

meonchap
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Post #155 3 Apr 2019 00:55
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When I did my tour, Rob did mention they were looking at a swim drop-off service as an 'extra', but the way it was explained, at the moment its looking like a very limited service if it even gets off the ground. Having had a better look around now, its a decent push to a lot of the swims so I reckon that fishing off the barrow and keeping total kit weight as light as possible has got to be the way to go.

scaley&dark
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Post #156 3 Apr 2019 07:46
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fishing off the barrow and keeping total kit weight as light as possible has got to be the way to go.

That is the only way to optimise your fishing time, regardless of venue size.
Otherwise carping will become camping ⛺️

I like the mystery & stunning grounds of this venue.

Simon1234 Simon1234
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Post #157 3 Apr 2019 10:05
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I've just bought the third wheels for my barrow I'll see how it goes but may invest in a power conversion one day.
Enut Enut
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Post #158 3 Apr 2019 13:46
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My mate who used to fish there and I know a couple of the current members fish using bikes and trailers to get around. If you can get your gear down to a manageable amount that makes huge sense.

meonchap
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Post #159 3 Apr 2019 17:17
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last walkabout, I was looking at the paths to/from the swims. If you've got a normal single-wheel barrow then access to all the swims, except maybe no. 7 and no.17, is do-able. If you have a wide barrow or a 4-wheel electric, you may also find the paths down to no.10 and no.11 to be a bit narrow - they are woodchip paths with plank edging boards. Single wheel - no problem. However I'd go and check the width before buying one of the bigger barrows, just to make sure it will fit !
Enut Enut
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Post #161 3 Apr 2019 18:28
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Even the fact that it has numbered swims now makes me a bit sad.
Simon1234 Simon1234
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Post #162 3 Apr 2019 18:58
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The swims need to be marked as there is so much of the lake out of bounds. The swims are largely untouched there's only one or two that have been levelled and boarded. Apart from a small wooden post with a swim name and number on you wouldn't know that the swims were for fishing. I think they've done a really good job picking the swims and keeping it as natural as possible.
meonchap
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Post #163 3 Apr 2019 18:59
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That point about being able/not able to deal with the distances was something that Rob was keen to point out when I went round with him. Its also one of the reasons I was glad I did the tour - at least I could see what I had to deal with. I reckon anyone who gets a ticket without seeing it first might be in for a bit of a surprise
Martin
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Post #164 6 Apr 2019 15:29
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Would be very interested in joining but not this season, will there be a waiting list once membership is full?
Rob_vw
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Post #165 6 Apr 2019 19:27
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Evening Martin.

As it stands at the moment we have had a lot of interest. So we are not sure as of yet what we are going to do we might chap it at 50 if so there will be a waiting list. But members are are joining at different times of the year so I'm sure they well always be space.
andy-vw
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Post #166 7 Apr 2019 17:22
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Hi all - I'm Andy the admin guy for the WGP Syndicate.

Following on from Rob's last post, I can confirm that we've had a good initial response to the revised pricing and limited publicity. If/when the remaining Syndicate places are taken up, a waiting list will be created.

At this stage, with two lakes and 61 swims available, it is not envisaged to increase the number of places available above the present limit of 50. Also, as Rob pointed out, its a 12-month membership from the date you join, so we will have people joining and leaving at various times throughout the year. Applications welcome at any time.
andy-vw
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Post #167 14 Apr 2019 19:57
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Despite the cold conditions, a nice linear mirror just shy of 37lbs came out yesterday, and with the forecast for higher temperatures in the week ahead, it could be a good time to get out and go fishing. Here's hoping the fish have read the script!
Simon1234 Simon1234
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Post #168 14 Apr 2019 20:37
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I somehow managed a small pike on a zig Thursday night. I'll be back this week for 48hrs from Thursday.
andy-vw
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Post #169 15 Apr 2019 00:34
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I'll be around on Friday; couple of swim closures (22, 47) due to swans nesting, also some filming going on wed/thu (12/13) - warm weather will be nice for a change. Don't ignore the margins!
andy-vw
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Post #170 18 Apr 2019 20:50
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Just in case there are any readers on here thinking of applying for a membership - we're well over half full now, so not that many places left. First-come, first-served. Thanks
meonchap
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Post #171 18 Apr 2019 21:45
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Has there been much out since start of April? I'm down for my first visit after Easter break. Thanks
andy-vw
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Post #172 18 Apr 2019 22:40
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Water is still quite cold, so the fish aren't showing much, just a few rolling out in the middle. Nothing seen in the shallows yet, but things might change after the weekend with the warm weather forecast. Last week's 36.12 is the best since 01April to date, but there was a couple of 20lb+ fish out yesterday along with some of the 10-20lb youngsters that show in numbers as the summer progresses. TBH I think it really needs to warm up before they start shifting around, but don't expect bagging lake-style action from this place; they're a bit harder to tempt than that!
andy-vw
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Post #173 19 Apr 2019 19:28
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warm weather did the trick - fish showing and 10 fish over 20lb out of VW, up to 28lb. Obelisk gave up 4 over 20 with an old mirror the best at 28.4 off the top with a mixer. Nice to see them on the feed once again.
Enut Enut
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Post #174 19 Apr 2019 21:58
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Hi Andy

Just out of interest what percentage of carp being caught from VW are 20's? And what percentage are commons?

Interested to compare what is getting caught to what we used to catch a few years ago.

Thanks in advance, pm if preferred.
andy-vw
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Post #175 19 Apr 2019 23:43
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PM sent
TheHappyMan
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Post #176 20 Apr 2019 07:04
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We used to get catch loads of 8/12lb commons .
Enut Enut
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Post #177 20 Apr 2019 10:52
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We did too. I think I posted previously that we were told that 600 mirrors were stocked in about 8 years ago (?) I am sure the bigger fish being caught now are mostly from that stocking. My friend caught a couple at about 8lb and they were pretty looking fish, we said at the time that if you were a fish VW was a lovely place to be stocked into!
Enut Enut
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Post #178 20 Apr 2019 10:52
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Thanks Andy, I've sent you a reply.
andy-vw
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Post #179 20 Apr 2019 17:19
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and another one sent back to you, too
bluebeat13
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Post #180 24 Apr 2019 06:58
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Sent you a PM Andy
andy-vw
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Post #181 24 Apr 2019 22:29
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One by return
andy-vw
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Post #182 26 Apr 2019 09:04
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Been a good few days - couple of nice fish out. Sort of things we're expecting more of as the year progresses, especially with a few more people actually trying to catch them.

andy-vw
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Post #183 4 May 2019 00:59
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Things have been moving forward nice and steady - even the fish are playing ball, including the ancient old mirrors in Obelisk. We're now down to our last potential couple of vacancies, after which we'll prepare a waitlist, so if anyone is reading and wants to apply, better be quick - its first come, first served. Thanks.
TheHappyMan
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Post #184 4 May 2019 07:28
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Hi Andy, I have to say the ancient old.mirrors you refuer to in the obelisk are a fairly recent thing . When we used to fish it there was no mirrors at all in the lake , only commons in there , quite a wild strain , of which the biggest was around 26 to 28 lbs , it was caught by Tony Jonson and there used to be a picture of it on the wall in Davies angling in Staines .
andy-vw
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Post #185 4 May 2019 23:55
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hi Paul66 - I've sent you a PM.
andy-vw
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Post #186 11 May 2019 22:41
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For anybody on here wishing to find out more about the WGP Syndicate, please can you now send your PM's to Rob_vw. I'm off for a nice break, and the laptop and phone are staying switched off and firmly in the cases!
meonchap
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Post #187 21 Jun 2019 15:33
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Rob-vw;

any updates on how the lakes are fishing at the moment? I've heard that a few 30s have been out in the last month but not seen any photos anywhere - was told there were a couple of pictures in Angling Times/Anglers Mail, yes?

Also, what's the weed situation like - clear, or likely to get heavily weeded this year?

thanks
Simon1234 Simon1234
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Post #188 21 Jun 2019 15:58
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I was down last weekend to see a couple os mates and the swims 1-8 there was quite a lot of weed
meonchap
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Post #189 24 Jun 2019 20:15
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Had a look yesterday - yes definitely more weed than last visit. Lots of fish visible though, and close in. Will need to think about how to beat the weed; maybe pva bags or just seek out a clear spot.
meonchap
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Post #190 29 Jun 2019 13:04
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Weed doesn't seem to be putting the fish off. I've spoken to Rob the bailiff and he says there's been fish caught all round the lake, including some 30s, best one just over 38.
Simon1234 Simon1234
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Post #191 29 Jun 2019 15:51
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The only action my bivvy is seeing is acting as a makeshift pushchair garage at Glastonbury.
meonchap
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Post #192 2 Jul 2019 20:46
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Saw some photos in the angling press today. There's a nice 38.5 pictured in Anglers Mail, and in the ATimes Carpfeed mag there's a very good article by Ian Lewis, inc photos. Seems like a few guys are beginning to get amongst 'em - will be interesting to see what comes out. Hopefully I'll be one of the guys catching them haha!
reggieboy reggieboy
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Post #193 19 Mar 2021 11:17
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Obviously not to much angling last year, but any up to date info ?
andy-vw
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Post #194 19 Mar 2021 17:23
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Yes, a quieter angling year, for obvious reasons, but for those who did get time out on the lake during the various lockdown periods, there were a few nice fish brought to the bank, including three 40lb+ fish (2 mirrors and a common), which are our first official syndicate-caught VW carp over that weight.

A goodly number of 30+ fish showing as well, and hopefully these too will cross the 40+ threshold before long. As is always the case on a water like this one, with many areas to aim at, combined with light angling pressure, its all about doing the homework and finding the fish.

Syndicate will be re-opening full time on 29 March. Membership is currently full, but all interested anglers are welcome to join the waiting list if they so wish.
Enut Enut
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Post #195 19 Mar 2021 21:47
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That's really good to hear. My old fishing buddy passed away in 2019 and, with the estate's permission, his ashes were scattered off the pole swim. If there's a lake in heaven I'm pretty sure it would be like Virginia Water and Chris will be happily spending his mornings fishing there.
andy-vw
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Post #196 19 Mar 2021 23:35
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That's a nice touch, Enut - and if he's still wandering the banks on 'the other side', then I hope he's still finding the early morning tench fishing to his liking!

He's not the only one, either - I see a number of annual 'memorials' spring up lakeside throughout the year, all of which we leave undisturbed, at least until the flowers go past their best. I doubt this is something that many syndicate water bailiffs encounter on their rounds!
Enut Enut
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Post #197 20 Mar 2021 10:38
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It was actually quite funny, he wanted to be scattered off the pole swim, his daughter phoned me to say she was at the lake and could I confirm she was at the right place, well she wasn't, she round the other side! As you know VW is not a small lake and she walked all the way round it carrying his ashes to get to the right swim. He would have laughed at that!
andy-vw
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Post #198 21 Mar 2021 10:29
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yes, sure is a long walk if you're in he wrong place - ask our members! Lots of them now moving towards using Power Porters and suchlike, which makes a lot of sense on a venue like this.

I am definitely looking forward to seeing the guys and gal (yes, we have one lady member! ) back on the banks after the 29th, and hopefully the renewed fishing pressure and input will be rewarded with a few decent fish, (including hopefully some of the rarely-seen ones) showing up.
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