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Don't know if Pete still comes on here. If he does I hope he does not mind me posting this for the previous poster:
OK after so many requests here are a couple of simple base mixes to base your own baits around. There is nothing clever here just simple balanced nutrition and if you take any of these as a base and then add your chosen attractors you won’t be going far wrong.
BM1 (basic HNV mix)
30% LT94 fishmeal
15% Maize Protein Meal 60% (supergold 60)
13% Egg based bird food like CeDe
10% Semolina
10% Soya flour (heat treated)
8.5% pre-digested fishmeal
8.5% Calf or lambs milk powder such as Vitamelo
5% Equivite
Depending on the exact brand of milk powder and bird food you use this will give you a bait with over 50% crude protein and about 10% oil content. Although they sound a little high it will come down if you add a few attractors to it yourself. If you really want to know the FLAA is Phenylaline, the 2nd is Methionine and the 3rd is Threonine……but all are plenty high enough to allow the carp maximum utilisation of the protein in the bait.
I have deliberately left the solubles a little on the low side so that you can add your own soluble attractors such as Betaine, MSG, liver powder etc without the bait falling to pieces in the water after 10 minutes!
Now another mix I have played with and had some promising result on before I stopped bait development was slightly different. Lower fish meal due to increased costs and slightly higher energy was the initial goal.
BM2
22% Poultry protein meal
20% LT94
10% Maize Protien Meal 60% (supergold 60)
10% pre-digested fishmeal
10% Calf or lambs milk powder such as Vitamelo
7% Micronized Soya meal
6% Semolina
2.5% Micronised crushed hemp
2.5% Equivite
Again the crude protein level is above 50% but the lipids levels are higher. The 1st, 2nd and 3rd LAA are the same as the above mix although the balance is not quite as good. As with BM1 you can add your attractors to this. If you find it too soft (I like it that way and the attractors can just pour out) then try adding 2 or 3% egg albumin.
For a simple bait take any of these and add 20ml per Kg of good quality oil such as Cod liver or Salmon, a few ml of flavour if you want some and 8-10 eggs per Kg of base mix.
Two of the best recipes you will ever encounter...Nothing more needs saying 
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In reply to Post #606
Thanks for the quick response!
Definitely going to try this one but first I will try the original BM1
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In reply to Post #605
Looks good to me, try a test mix and see.
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I’ve been reading through the full thread about this mix and used that as a base to make my own version. I’ve added a few extra ingredients for attraction, but I’m wondering if it’s all getting a bit too much or if it still makes sense nutritionally and practically.
Here’s the version I currently have:
• LT94 fishmeal – 25.5% (255 g)
• Maize Protein Meal (60%) – 15% (150 g)
• Egg based bird food – 13% (130 g)
• Semolina – 10% (100 g)
• Heat-treated soya flour – 10% (100 g)
• Pre-digested fishmeal – 8% (80 g)
• Calf/Lamb’s milk powder – 8% (80 g)
• Selenevite – 1% (10 g)
• Brocacel – 3% (30 g)
• Kelp meal – 3% (30 g)
• MSG (Monosodium Glutamate) – 0.5% (5 g)
• GLM full fat (Green Lipped Mussel) – 2% (20 g)
• Betaine – 1% (10 g)
Do you think this is a good balance overall, or am I overdoing it with some of these attractors or supplements?
Any feedback or suggestions for fine-tuning would be really appreciated.
Kind regards,
Ben
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In reply to Post #603
Many thanks mate, most appreciated.
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In reply to Post #600
Liver powder start with 5%, betaine go with what the suppliers recommend.
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In reply to Post #601
I’m not using anything, hence the query.
I’ve only been rolling bait for the last couple of seasons, I was fortunate to have an amazing bait for over two decades, until the lad retired.
I’ve been using the Tropamino from BAF, but with their trade only, I’m looking to try the BM1.
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Ken states this “ I have deliberately left the solubles a little on the low side so that you can add your own soluble attractors such as Betaine, MSG, liver powder etc without the bait falling to pieces in the water after 10 minutes!”
How much liver powder and Betaine would be recommended? Also do you need to reduce any other ingredients to include these, or just add them to the prescribed mix?
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In reply to Post #597
Thanks 👍
Just found the Selenavite E at the local equine shop in 500g tubs so will stick with that 👍
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In reply to Post #596
You could try the kelp meal instead of the Selenavite but they are not quite the same. I do like kelp meal and find it draws in the naturals....if it was me I would use both and 3-4% kelp with 1% selenavite 
Maybe start off with just the kelp meal and see how you get on.
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In reply to Post #595
Amazing, thank you very much!
I'll make those adjustments now 👍
Would Crunchy Kelp Meal make a suitable alternative to the Selenavite E to help reduce the overall cost?
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In reply to Post #594
Looks about right apart from I would drop the Selenavite E to 10g/kg of dry mix...this will save a little and has very similar content as 5% of the old Equivite. One 500g tub will make 50kg of dry base mix 
Just up the others a little to make up the reduced amount of vitamin powder to give you 100% total still 
Edit to add remember that 1kg of basemix plus the eggs will make about 1.4kg of finished bait so divide your cost per kg at the end by 1.4 to get you the price per rolled kg.
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In reply to Post #592
I've put the below together based on buying everything (apart from Selenavite E) from AA Baits in both 1kg amounts or 5kg amounts.
With Selenavite E being the most expensive, if anyone knows a better place to get this cheaper?
If I've done my calculations correctly, then this is what I came out with:
1KG ingredients:
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5KG ingredients:
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Let me know your thoughts or if I've made any mistakes 👍👍
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In reply to Post #592
Ah yes, well reminded 👍 thank you
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