Can anyone recommend somewhere i can get hold of someone proper beef liver powder. Seen a few places advertising beef liver powder but it's a sandy colour not dark brown which tells me its chicken liver not beef
In reply to Post #1
Is this the real stuff?
https://www.thedogchef.co.uk/supplements/liver-powder-for-dogs/
Is this the real stuff?
https://www.thedogchef.co.uk/supplements/liver-powder-for-dogs/
In reply to Post #1
Mirage Baits do their own beef liver powder. The owner, Marcus sources beef liver from the local butchers and dessicates it in house before powdering. You won't do any better than that !
Also, have a listen to the latest Carp Chronicles Podcast as he talks about it on there.
Or get yourself a dessicator and do your own.
Mirage Baits do their own beef liver powder. The owner, Marcus sources beef liver from the local butchers and dessicates it in house before powdering. You won't do any better than that !
Also, have a listen to the latest Carp Chronicles Podcast as he talks about it on there.
Or get yourself a dessicator and do your own.
In reply to Post #2
Looks like the real deal but do the maths. £4.95 for 40 g, so £123.75 per KG Lol
Looks like the real deal but do the maths. £4.95 for 40 g, so £123.75 per KG Lol
In reply to Post #4
Haha yes I didn't see the 40g bit. The mirage stuff is perfect thank you. Whilst on mirage, what bare his actual boilies like ?
Haha yes I didn't see the 40g bit. The mirage stuff is perfect thank you. Whilst on mirage, what bare his actual boilies like ?
In reply to Post #5
Never used em mate as I make all my own No doubt someone on here will be along soon to give you some info. Meanwhile, like I said, have a listen to the Carp Chronicles Podcast. The man knows his onions. There's a clue there if you put liver in your baits 😉
Never used em mate as I make all my own No doubt someone on here will be along soon to give you some info. Meanwhile, like I said, have a listen to the Carp Chronicles Podcast. The man knows his onions. There's a clue there if you put liver in your baits 😉
I'm sure AA baits have a beef liver powder on their website
I bought some beef liver from AA Baits recently.
In reply to Post #1
What is it that makes beef liver powder seemingly so much more desirable than chicken? Not trying to be controversial I'm genuinely interested. To me the chicken liver hydro and powder from DNA/BAF have always been really good for me.
What is it that makes beef liver powder seemingly so much more desirable than chicken? Not trying to be controversial I'm genuinely interested. To me the chicken liver hydro and powder from DNA/BAF have always been really good for me.
In reply to Post #9
https://www.saebaitdevelopments.com/blogs/prototype-bait-developments/stage-1-amino-liver
https://www.saebaitdevelopments.com/blogs/prototype-bait-developments/stage-1-amino-liver
In reply to Post #9
I have also been wondering this. Some of the products mentioned are dried and powdered liver and some are hydrolysed before being turned into a powder. I have used dried/powdered chicken and beef and in my, admittedly limited, tests found no difference to attraction.
I currently used a hydrolysed chicken liver in a fishmeal based bait and it works better in my fishing (and on my pond fish) than a dried beef liver powder in the same mix. This comparison was done in the spring last year so could be different in the other seasons, not something I have time to try out. Being hydrolysed it is much more soluble than just dried/powdered liver. You will need to take this solubility into account when working out your mix and the function you want the liver powder to have
edit to add that although dried/powdered chicken and beef liver seemed to make no difference to attraction in my basic tests the nutritional profile of beef is better on paper so could be better for longer term bait use. Now if I could just find some hydrolysed beef powder I would be willing to bet that would be better but so far not seen it as sensible prices.
I have also been wondering this. Some of the products mentioned are dried and powdered liver and some are hydrolysed before being turned into a powder. I have used dried/powdered chicken and beef and in my, admittedly limited, tests found no difference to attraction.
I currently used a hydrolysed chicken liver in a fishmeal based bait and it works better in my fishing (and on my pond fish) than a dried beef liver powder in the same mix. This comparison was done in the spring last year so could be different in the other seasons, not something I have time to try out. Being hydrolysed it is much more soluble than just dried/powdered liver. You will need to take this solubility into account when working out your mix and the function you want the liver powder to have
edit to add that although dried/powdered chicken and beef liver seemed to make no difference to attraction in my basic tests the nutritional profile of beef is better on paper so could be better for longer term bait use. Now if I could just find some hydrolysed beef powder I would be willing to bet that would be better but so far not seen it as sensible prices.
In reply to Post #11
Have a listen to the carp chronicles lastedt podcast. There is a section discussing just this and the perceived differences between chicken pork lamb beef livers.
Have a listen to the carp chronicles lastedt podcast. There is a section discussing just this and the perceived differences between chicken pork lamb beef livers.
In reply to Post #12
I have listened to that one but don't recall talk of hydro liver just dried liver so two very different things in my experience.
Anyone else compared dried liver powder with hydro liver powder in the same, or very similar, mix?
I have listened to that one but don't recall talk of hydro liver just dried liver so two very different things in my experience.
Anyone else compared dried liver powder with hydro liver powder in the same, or very similar, mix?
In reply to Post #13
Not quite a direct comparison but years back I could buy dessicated liver but not the hydro.
I really liked the dessicated version but found you had to use at least 5% inclusion rate, preferably 10% for it to make a perceivable difference.
I use both chicken and beef hydros and while I am sure the beef is best the chicken is not that far behind. For me 5% is still the minimum to include.
Not quite a direct comparison but years back I could buy dessicated liver but not the hydro.
I really liked the dessicated version but found you had to use at least 5% inclusion rate, preferably 10% for it to make a perceivable difference.
I use both chicken and beef hydros and while I am sure the beef is best the chicken is not that far behind. For me 5% is still the minimum to include.
In reply to Post #12
That's the point I think. It's been mentioned a couple of times on podcasts by various people and now all of a sudden everyone is jumping on it. At least one of the people I've heard banging its drum happens to be one of the few people selling it also. Funny that.
Chicken liver products have been used for years and have caught untold carp. I'm yet to be convinced beef is a big upgrade especially when you take into account the different in price and availability.
But ultimately what do I know, my only experience of beef liver products was a few years ago when the guy that did the enzyme reactive bait (can't remember his name) was selling it. I much preferred the hydrolysed chicken product from BAF
That's the point I think. It's been mentioned a couple of times on podcasts by various people and now all of a sudden everyone is jumping on it. At least one of the people I've heard banging its drum happens to be one of the few people selling it also. Funny that.
Chicken liver products have been used for years and have caught untold carp. I'm yet to be convinced beef is a big upgrade especially when you take into account the different in price and availability.
But ultimately what do I know, my only experience of beef liver products was a few years ago when the guy that did the enzyme reactive bait (can't remember his name) was selling it. I much preferred the hydrolysed chicken product from BAF