Does anyone believe that one bait nowadays is far better than another without bringing confidence in to it ?
I'm just thinking if it's from a reputable firm does it really matter what bait your using if used in the correct way ?
I'm just thinking if it's from a reputable firm does it really matter what bait your using if used in the correct way ?
In reply to Post #1
Just look at some sponsored anglers. Either bait (within reason) makes no difference, or they're lying about what they are using
Just look at some sponsored anglers. Either bait (within reason) makes no difference, or they're lying about what they are using
I'd rather put a bad bait in a good location than expect any magical event to occur with a good bait in a bad location.
In that good location if they're curious it'll get sucked in and hopefully get hooked, if they're not it won't. But I am certain they won't swim across the lake to where the most amazing bait is located because we think it's an amazing bait - why would they?
In that good location if they're curious it'll get sucked in and hopefully get hooked, if they're not it won't. But I am certain they won't swim across the lake to where the most amazing bait is located because we think it's an amazing bait - why would they?
In reply to Post #1
Location over bait everytime
That being said I fished mainline exclusive for many years. Had a dry spell switched to DNA baits and have never looked back. Not only was it considerably cheaper but the bait imo was of better quality. My catch results has also sky rocket since the change.
I use the bug for reference. Had some good sessions on S7 but if I had to choose one bait would be the bug every time now
Location over bait everytime
That being said I fished mainline exclusive for many years. Had a dry spell switched to DNA baits and have never looked back. Not only was it considerably cheaper but the bait imo was of better quality. My catch results has also sky rocket since the change.
I use the bug for reference. Had some good sessions on S7 but if I had to choose one bait would be the bug every time now
In reply to Post #4
I use DNA and I like the fact they don't have a massive massive range for people to get confused over and the size of fish to what I normally catch per season for me personally has improved,plus I like tinkering with their liquids and powders,plus they have really excellent bundles
I use DNA and I like the fact they don't have a massive massive range for people to get confused over and the size of fish to what I normally catch per season for me personally has improved,plus I like tinkering with their liquids and powders,plus they have really excellent bundles
In reply to Post #1
Does anyone believe that one bait nowadays is far better than another without bringing confidence in to it ?
From reputable firms, better maybe not, but selective definately.
I'm just thinking if it's from a reputable firm does it really matter what bait your using if used in the correct way ?
Yes, I think it does, and sometimes it depends on the fish themselves. I ran DNA S7 & NuttaS along side each other on a particular water and over the year the NS was outfished every time, even when baits were swapped over in positions. The boilies were fed equally even when not fishing, it just wasn't meant to be on that water. Maybe given longer it would have got better but I don't have that sort of patience, I think that was giving NS a fair go
Was it a water ph whatever issue, I've no idea.
Does anyone believe that one bait nowadays is far better than another without bringing confidence in to it ?
From reputable firms, better maybe not, but selective definately.
I'm just thinking if it's from a reputable firm does it really matter what bait your using if used in the correct way ?
Yes, I think it does, and sometimes it depends on the fish themselves. I ran DNA S7 & NuttaS along side each other on a particular water and over the year the NS was outfished every time, even when baits were swapped over in positions. The boilies were fed equally even when not fishing, it just wasn't meant to be on that water. Maybe given longer it would have got better but I don't have that sort of patience, I think that was giving NS a fair go
Was it a water ph whatever issue, I've no idea.
In reply to Post #2
there was a youtube video released a few months ago with 2 named anglers using bait from different big firms where they were using staggered rods.
one of them got lots of runs, the other had static indicators. no mention of bait but it looked pretty obvious to me that on this day, one firm was much better the other.
there was a youtube video released a few months ago with 2 named anglers using bait from different big firms where they were using staggered rods.
one of them got lots of runs, the other had static indicators. no mention of bait but it looked pretty obvious to me that on this day, one firm was much better the other.
In reply to Post #6
In my experience nut baits just don't work as well as fishmeals on some waters. Why? No idea. However it's a fact. Nut based baits do work on some waters, again, why? No idea.
In my experience nut baits just don't work as well as fishmeals on some waters. Why? No idea. However it's a fact. Nut based baits do work on some waters, again, why? No idea.
I have 30 years of carp fishing experience in not only making my own baits (from raw ingredients) but also in using shelf life and frozen ready made boilies. In that time there have definitely been consistently successful baits such as nutrabaits big fish mix, trigga, Nash whiskey, Scorex squid, mainline grange (original), mainline activ8 etc etc. These are baits that have been and still are consistent catchers for many many years. Is one better than another it is very difficult to tell as there are so many factors at play such as how many anglers are using it on a lake, skill level of the anglers, consistency of publishing results etc. You hear more about fish being caught on cell, scopex squid etc because there are probably more anglers using it and the marketing is far better with these bigger companies. Having said that, from a purely personal perspective the one bait that has been a consistent catcher and one I would use if my life depended on it would be sticky krill. I have found some baits have not worked as well on some lakes as others but I have never experienced this with the krill.
In reply to Post #9
I was given some of the first scopex squid produced, it caught without prebaiting from 4 lakes I used it on. One of the best baits I've ever used. No idea if the current iteration is the same as the original.
I was given some of the first scopex squid produced, it caught without prebaiting from 4 lakes I used it on. One of the best baits I've ever used. No idea if the current iteration is the same as the original.
In reply to Post #1
Yes but as alluded to the way in which it's used, skill level of angler etc will have a big difference.
Yes but as alluded to the way in which it's used, skill level of angler etc will have a big difference.
Over the years I've fished alongside people who have used Mainline, DT, Sticky, Baitcraft, DNA and The A Bait and at no point have I considered their bait to be an advantage over my Scopex Squid. If I had I would have switched bait without question.
I have a few small fish in my pond carp and goldfish, and my god they are super fussy. There are certain baits they will take on the drop and other they will leave even though there is no alternative available.
I've pretty much used the same bait for years and am so bored I tried to change. I tried it at the wrong time, so my confidence took a dip and as such I went back which was super frustrating. I honestly believe a bad bait in a good spot, is just as bad as the good bait in a bad spot.
I'm still struggling with the shelf life thing as well even though the new breed of stabilised baits are so much better - I have not found anything close to a frozen /fresh bait. I no longer ‘campaign' fish so simply have to use the best available rather that go for a long term strategy. I've gone from using 50kg - 100kg a year to under 30kg so would certainly now go quality over quantity. On a club water last year a bloke told me he'd got 10kg for £20 on line and asked me if he thought it would be good, I nodded politely but thought you'd be better off with one kilo of decent bait and a few tins of corn.
I've pretty much used the same bait for years and am so bored I tried to change. I tried it at the wrong time, so my confidence took a dip and as such I went back which was super frustrating. I honestly believe a bad bait in a good spot, is just as bad as the good bait in a bad spot.
I'm still struggling with the shelf life thing as well even though the new breed of stabilised baits are so much better - I have not found anything close to a frozen /fresh bait. I no longer ‘campaign' fish so simply have to use the best available rather that go for a long term strategy. I've gone from using 50kg - 100kg a year to under 30kg so would certainly now go quality over quantity. On a club water last year a bloke told me he'd got 10kg for £20 on line and asked me if he thought it would be good, I nodded politely but thought you'd be better off with one kilo of decent bait and a few tins of corn.