So I am hearing that John is phoning bait companies up and giving them 3 days notice to stop saying their baits have JB Plum in them or whatever. Really?
Very shortsighted. I can't imagine how many bottles of Plum he has sold over recent years just off the back of UB's Plum and Squid baits, well advertised as having the real JB flavour in.
Thoughts?
Very shortsighted. I can't imagine how many bottles of Plum he has sold over recent years just off the back of UB's Plum and Squid baits, well advertised as having the real JB flavour in.
Thoughts?
In reply to Post #1
My thoughts.
Respect to the man, a bait flavour expert that sells unique products that have stood the test of time. Can only be a good thing, bait makers are either using his unique products and his brand as a selling point and making that known (cant see a problem at all there) or pedalling some kind of other plum **** by the sounds of it and calming to be JB?
My thoughts.
Respect to the man, a bait flavour expert that sells unique products that have stood the test of time. Can only be a good thing, bait makers are either using his unique products and his brand as a selling point and making that known (cant see a problem at all there) or pedalling some kind of other plum **** by the sounds of it and calming to be JB?
In reply to Post #1
Even if they do have JB Plum in them?!
Even if they do have JB Plum in them?!
In reply to Post #3
Yeah bit strange if they do use his plum
Yeah bit strange if they do use his plum
I'd ignore it personally legally nothing he can do if its legitimately purchased ? unless hes trademarked the term, however if others have been using the term prior to him applying for it it wont stand up. loads of companies making cell wafters, manilla cork balls and the like.
Either way he seems odd of late, recommending no more than 5 or 10ml hydros per kilo of bait, despite it being well known to be optimal above those levels.
Maybe if he stopped ripping people off with his prices he'd sell more gear. He actually came up to my father at a show and said " ah so its a company with my name sake is it? " - regarding spectrum, thinking I'd named it after him LOL.
Either way he seems odd of late, recommending no more than 5 or 10ml hydros per kilo of bait, despite it being well known to be optimal above those levels.
Maybe if he stopped ripping people off with his prices he'd sell more gear. He actually came up to my father at a show and said " ah so its a company with my name sake is it? " - regarding spectrum, thinking I'd named it after him LOL.
Surely he's only complaining if companies are claiming to be using his product and he knows full well that they've never bought it from him.
I use a few of his flavours in my baits and I've got no problem in advertising the fact as I think they are head and shoulders above a lot of the others out there and people want them.
I spoke to him for some time at the big one as he's recently joined a water I'm a member of, I can't say that at any point in the conversation that it struck me he's gone bat s@@t crazy.
My guess is that he probably feels people shouldn't be lied to and believe they are paying for something but actually getting something else.
I use a few of his flavours in my baits and I've got no problem in advertising the fact as I think they are head and shoulders above a lot of the others out there and people want them.
I spoke to him for some time at the big one as he's recently joined a water I'm a member of, I can't say that at any point in the conversation that it struck me he's gone bat s@@t crazy.
My guess is that he probably feels people shouldn't be lied to and believe they are paying for something but actually getting something else.
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It's not that he feels people are lied to, he tried to claim his shrimp was exclusively sourced by him when in fact he bought it from bacarel like everyone else. That's not exactly honest.
It would be very easy for him to simply list ( with their agreement ) the companies he's supplied meaningful amounts of flavour to?
It's not that he feels people are lied to, he tried to claim his shrimp was exclusively sourced by him when in fact he bought it from bacarel like everyone else. That's not exactly honest.
It would be very easy for him to simply list ( with their agreement ) the companies he's supplied meaningful amounts of flavour to?
In reply to Post #7
No, he worked with Bacarel to bring it into the country because he didn't have the right license if I remember right. That's well known and he says as much on his youtube channel. He charges more than Bacarel but he probably doesn't buy in the same quantity.
No, he worked with Bacarel to bring it into the country because he didn't have the right license if I remember right. That's well known and he says as much on his youtube channel. He charges more than Bacarel but he probably doesn't buy in the same quantity.
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In reply to Post #9
Unless they are stilling it not much he can do I would say...
Unless they are stilling it not much he can do I would say...
In reply to Post #6
Only one dude really knows what is in all other baits and that is not JB
so he can never know who is using and who not... You can buy jb pruduct in shops, second hand etc... And even buying from him directly doesnt mean it really goes in bait later... Man really has some weird hobbies lately...
Only one dude really knows what is in all other baits and that is not JB
so he can never know who is using and who not... You can buy jb pruduct in shops, second hand etc... And even buying from him directly doesnt mean it really goes in bait later... Man really has some weird hobbies lately...
In reply to Post #6
Surely he's only complaining if companies are claiming to be using his product and he knows full well that they've never bought it from him
Similar thoughts to me
You need 101% trust in a baitmaker, sounds like some are telling lies and not really using his stuff!
And as mentioned, Bacarel
Surely he's only complaining if companies are claiming to be using his product and he knows full well that they've never bought it from him
Similar thoughts to me
You need 101% trust in a baitmaker, sounds like some are telling lies and not really using his stuff!
And as mentioned, Bacarel
In reply to Post #9
Mate, my point isn't that Bacarel weren't/aren't involved, it's that John says he worked with another company to get it.
Mate, my point isn't that Bacarel weren't/aren't involved, it's that John says he worked with another company to get it.
In reply to Post #13
Wasn't it something to do with his DEFRA license expiring and so he couldn't import it into the country in bulk as there was a minimum order requirement, could have got that mixed up as I listened to it on a podcast a while ago might well of been something else.
Wasn't it something to do with his DEFRA license expiring and so he couldn't import it into the country in bulk as there was a minimum order requirement, could have got that mixed up as I listened to it on a podcast a while ago might well of been something else.
In reply to Post #7
Mozzi - he has been honest and said the reasons why he used them as an agent. He has mentioned this publicly where he was not a obliged to.
Mozzi - he has been honest and said the reasons why he used them as an agent. He has mentioned this publicly where he was not a obliged to.