Just read a story on the Carpfeed website about a chap who ended up hand lining in a 45lb+ common after it got tangled in one of his other lines. The thing is, the hook pulled close to the bank. As the fish lay confused in shallow water, he then scooped it up and claimed the capture. Whats everyone's views on this? To me, he lost the fish as he didnt net it whilst still attached to it......however Im pretty sure many others would also claim the capture...??
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Doesn't count for me
Doesn't count for me
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No doubt I'm in the minority as I don't post my captures or even take photos so mine will probably will be an unusual opinion and no doubt won't be the answer you were expecting
It sounds like it's annoyed you a bit but really it's between the guy and his conscience. If he wants to claim it then so be it. I certainly wouldn't let it bother you.
Personally I catch fish for the challenge not the publicity, no picture, no holding the fish, just return it as quickly as possible.
No doubt I'm in the minority as I don't post my captures or even take photos so mine will probably will be an unusual opinion and no doubt won't be the answer you were expecting
It sounds like it's annoyed you a bit but really it's between the guy and his conscience. If he wants to claim it then so be it. I certainly wouldn't let it bother you.
Personally I catch fish for the challenge not the publicity, no picture, no holding the fish, just return it as quickly as possible.
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He hooked it and landed it, therefore he caught the fish IMHO.
What if the hook had pinged at the net and he scooped it up quick, would that not count as well?
He hooked it and landed it, therefore he caught the fish IMHO.
What if the hook had pinged at the net and he scooped it up quick, would that not count as well?
I think it counts. It's not like he saw a fish laying up and threw his net at it. It picked up his bait, he played it and landed it. Anyway it's up to him, I think it's a bit too easy to get judgmental about what others have caught especially when it's a large fish.
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I'm pretty sure loads have claimed before
I'm pretty sure loads have claimed before
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It's up to him if it counts or not.
It's up to him if it counts or not.
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Hasn't annoyed me at all mate, just very different to how I would perceive a 'capture'
Hasn't annoyed me at all mate, just very different to how I would perceive a 'capture'
My one and only 40lber had the hook pop out as I was scooping the net up. Does it count, hell yes.
Hooked, landed, netted - can't see the problem myself.
Took advantage of a million-to-one shot.
99% of carp would have just been gone for good, if I'm in the same stupidly rare position, that fish is mine for sure.
Maybe lakes should install VAR so we can all be sure of what does and doesn't count
Took advantage of a million-to-one shot.
99% of carp would have just been gone for good, if I'm in the same stupidly rare position, that fish is mine for sure.
Maybe lakes should install VAR so we can all be sure of what does and doesn't count
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Just a difference opinions it looks like then.
To me you have to hook and land a fish in one swoop, if my rig isnt in its mouth when its drawn over the net then its an unfortunate loss. If the hook falls out in the net thats a different matter.
Just a difference opinions it looks like then.
To me you have to hook and land a fish in one swoop, if my rig isnt in its mouth when its drawn over the net then its an unfortunate loss. If the hook falls out in the net thats a different matter.
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What if it falls out while the fish is halfway over the net, are you allowed to move the net to get the fish in, or do you have to stand still and hope it doesn't sink backwards?
He fished for it, hooked it, played it, landed it (with a bit of luck). Hence he caught it imo.
What if it falls out while the fish is halfway over the net, are you allowed to move the net to get the fish in, or do you have to stand still and hope it doesn't sink backwards?
He fished for it, hooked it, played it, landed it (with a bit of luck). Hence he caught it imo.
I see no problem at all with it counting , and from what you say , it seems he did well to land it in the end.
For me it's simple. The hook must be in the fishes mouth as it goes into the net. Otherwise you could foul hook a fish, drag it in by the fin, the fin tears as you get it near you, so you bundle it into the net. Not a capture in my book.
What happens if you play a fish in, and the hook pulls as you go to net it. The fish swims off and you find it sulking in a snag down to the side of the swim. You scoop it out of the snag? Well it's only there cos you wound it in.
For me the art of carp fishing has a defined set of skills. The ability to select an area that you think will result in a bite. The ability to construct or select a rig appropriate to the conditions. The ability to select a bait that will trick the fish into being hooked. Lastly the skills to control and land a hooked fish using rod and line to guide a fish into the net.
What happens if you play a fish in, and the hook pulls as you go to net it. The fish swims off and you find it sulking in a snag down to the side of the swim. You scoop it out of the snag? Well it's only there cos you wound it in.
For me the art of carp fishing has a defined set of skills. The ability to select an area that you think will result in a bite. The ability to construct or select a rig appropriate to the conditions. The ability to select a bait that will trick the fish into being hooked. Lastly the skills to control and land a hooked fish using rod and line to guide a fish into the net.
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I would say it counts.
I cracked off on a simple easy lob 50 yards, god knows how but i did land exactly in a swim I had been pre-baiting for 6 months. The spot was just coming ripe in late autumn and I had already had a string of 20's to 29lb 10oz from there. I tried in vain to retrieve the lost rig but it was lost. Two days later a bloke on a swim up the lake had a series of one beep liners over about 30 mins whilst sat in my swim and eventually he wandered off to see what was occurring with his rods. 20 mins later he wanders back down to me saying he had a caught a fish that hadn't been out for 7 years, it was only 27lb but nice to see all the same. I took the photos and slipped it back and upon leaving his swim I noticed my rig and his rig all tangled up on top of his bivvy with around 50 yards of line all mashed up.
I asked him what that was about and he told me the fish had my rig and his rig in its mouth so he was claiming it. I knew he was chatting bo**ocks but didn't really care until I saw his face in Carp talk 3 weeks later on page 2!!!
I'm good friends with him now and it took me 12 months to get the truth about the fish out of him. As you probably guessed he just caught my trailer.. Shameful. lol
Now that doesn't count...........
I would say it counts.
I cracked off on a simple easy lob 50 yards, god knows how but i did land exactly in a swim I had been pre-baiting for 6 months. The spot was just coming ripe in late autumn and I had already had a string of 20's to 29lb 10oz from there. I tried in vain to retrieve the lost rig but it was lost. Two days later a bloke on a swim up the lake had a series of one beep liners over about 30 mins whilst sat in my swim and eventually he wandered off to see what was occurring with his rods. 20 mins later he wanders back down to me saying he had a caught a fish that hadn't been out for 7 years, it was only 27lb but nice to see all the same. I took the photos and slipped it back and upon leaving his swim I noticed my rig and his rig all tangled up on top of his bivvy with around 50 yards of line all mashed up.
I asked him what that was about and he told me the fish had my rig and his rig in its mouth so he was claiming it. I knew he was chatting bo**ocks but didn't really care until I saw his face in Carp talk 3 weeks later on page 2!!!
I'm good friends with him now and it took me 12 months to get the truth about the fish out of him. As you probably guessed he just caught my trailer.. Shameful. lol
Now that doesn't count...........