In reply to Post #103
He uses SS3000s. That's why he doesn't use ESP reels!
He uses SS3000s. That's why he doesn't use ESP reels!
In reply to Post #105
Quote... I hope he's as nice a guy as he comes across.
He is a lovely bloke in real life Andy. Some of his full timer pals, not so much.
Pretty normal with the full timer crowd. Some are diamonds (like Terry), some are absolute wastes of space. Terry has always been able to stand on his own two feet because of who he is.
Quote... I hope he's as nice a guy as he comes across.
He is a lovely bloke in real life Andy. Some of his full timer pals, not so much.
Pretty normal with the full timer crowd. Some are diamonds (like Terry), some are absolute wastes of space. Terry has always been able to stand on his own two feet because of who he is.
In reply to Post #107
Quote.... He uses SS3000s. That's why he doesn't use ESP reels!
I will share a funny story regarding those SS300 reels. It made me chuckle at the time anyway. When I was with Shimano, Terry was there at the exact same time pretty much in 2013, moving from ESP for bigger money. It was for a big pay rise. The bloke who was running the Shimano UK show at the time rang me one day in an absolute blind panic to see if I could talk to him. He was at a video shoot with Terry. Shimano had paid for a team of cameramen, the whole nine yards. Terry was refusing to put Shimano reels on for the big time promo video. He wanted to use his SS3000's.
Terry was telling this bloke that it would not look right, as his fans knew him for those Daiwa reels. This poor bloke was so stressed. In a panic. He was telling me that his Japanese bosses were never going to listen to this, or allow Daiwa reels in their video. This bloke was convinced that he was getting the sack. At the time, I'd only met Terry very briefly on the Thames, nothing I could do or say & I told this bloke exactly that.
Don't know how it all got resolved that day... But I do know Terry was back at ESP just weeks later.
Don't ever change Terry
Quote.... He uses SS3000s. That's why he doesn't use ESP reels!
I will share a funny story regarding those SS300 reels. It made me chuckle at the time anyway. When I was with Shimano, Terry was there at the exact same time pretty much in 2013, moving from ESP for bigger money. It was for a big pay rise. The bloke who was running the Shimano UK show at the time rang me one day in an absolute blind panic to see if I could talk to him. He was at a video shoot with Terry. Shimano had paid for a team of cameramen, the whole nine yards. Terry was refusing to put Shimano reels on for the big time promo video. He wanted to use his SS3000's.
Terry was telling this bloke that it would not look right, as his fans knew him for those Daiwa reels. This poor bloke was so stressed. In a panic. He was telling me that his Japanese bosses were never going to listen to this, or allow Daiwa reels in their video. This bloke was convinced that he was getting the sack. At the time, I'd only met Terry very briefly on the Thames, nothing I could do or say & I told this bloke exactly that.
Don't know how it all got resolved that day... But I do know Terry was back at ESP just weeks later.
Don't ever change Terry
In reply to Post #108
Did a double take at the title of a recent film from one of the "full timer crowd" : read it as "The Grifter" initially, but no, not quite...
Did a double take at the title of a recent film from one of the "full timer crowd" : read it as "The Grifter" initially, but no, not quite...
In reply to Post #109
that's a good story and says a lot about his character
there's obviously a reason for it
I use them as well. 100% there are absolutely loads of better reels out there, but they are bloody brilliant in their own flakey, grindy way
that's a good story and says a lot about his character there's obviously a reason for it
I use them as well. 100% there are absolutely loads of better reels out there, but they are bloody brilliant in their own flakey, grindy way
In reply to Post #109
Obviously refused to tow the corporate line. And was probably gladly welcomed back into the ESP fold.. Fair play to him..
Can see Shimanos point of view. He readily took there coin. So was obviously expected to promote there gear. I suppose it's a bit like working for Apple and using Android devices. I was surprised when he left ESP. Because he started using ACE terminal tackle which were bought out by Shimano I believe.
Obviously refused to tow the corporate line. And was probably gladly welcomed back into the ESP fold.. Fair play to him..
Can see Shimanos point of view. He readily took there coin. So was obviously expected to promote there gear. I suppose it's a bit like working for Apple and using Android devices. I was surprised when he left ESP. Because he started using ACE terminal tackle which were bought out by Shimano I believe.
If I remember correctly Terry's move away from ESP was caused by Dynamite Baits being bought by Rapala who was partly owned by Shimano back then. They also wanted to promote the Ace brand. To my understanding Terry had to choose between his deals with Dynamite and ESP.
Great that he came back to ESP.
Great that he came back to ESP.
I do love the way you guys can romanticise anything whatsoever in carp fishing when it's people that you admire. He was offered a lot more money to go to Shimano. ACE were owned by Shimano. He was already Dynamite. It sort of brought it all together. If you do the maths, it then adds up as to why he then later left Dynamite, I guess when his contract ran out with them.
It may well have just been malicious chat because it was people from Shimano who said it at the time, but he went back to ESP for less than he was on before at first, so they said anyway. Mr Drennan is a business man & clearly nobody's fool. Anyone would likely do exactly the same if your star player left you for someone else, then wanted to come back. But don't let any of that spoil any romantic views you can imagine on the situation.
When you guys work somewhere, if someone comes along and offers you, let's say 2.5 times your yearly wage, you are moving to a new job. End of. There's nothing romantic about that, it's the facts of life. I get the impression that Terry loves the arm around his shoulder that ESP provide for him. They are a great match. He realised that the moment that he left would be my guess. He provides you lot with great content via them since he went back too. Not really the case before that so much.
He did the right thing imo in the long run. It was just an anecdotal story from the past regarding the SS3000's. That's all. I hope Sticky are now having to pay him a lot of wonga. Good luck to him. He deserves it.
It may well have just been malicious chat because it was people from Shimano who said it at the time, but he went back to ESP for less than he was on before at first, so they said anyway. Mr Drennan is a business man & clearly nobody's fool. Anyone would likely do exactly the same if your star player left you for someone else, then wanted to come back. But don't let any of that spoil any romantic views you can imagine on the situation.
When you guys work somewhere, if someone comes along and offers you, let's say 2.5 times your yearly wage, you are moving to a new job. End of. There's nothing romantic about that, it's the facts of life. I get the impression that Terry loves the arm around his shoulder that ESP provide for him. They are a great match. He realised that the moment that he left would be my guess. He provides you lot with great content via them since he went back too. Not really the case before that so much.
He did the right thing imo in the long run. It was just an anecdotal story from the past regarding the SS3000's. That's all. I hope Sticky are now having to pay him a lot of wonga. Good luck to him. He deserves it.
In reply to Post #110
I don't see any of it, so I have no clue what video you mean... But I can have a great guess
I don't see any of it, so I have no clue what video you mean... But I can have a great guess
In reply to Post #111
Horrible grinders Busted
But I will admit they do look the part. That's what it's all about and we know it
Horrible grinders Busted
But I will admit they do look the part. That's what it's all about and we know it
In reply to Post #116
Nothing else really matters
Nothing else really matters
In reply to Post #108
That's lovely to hear Mark.
That's lovely to hear Mark.