In reply to Post #90
When I was a skint teenager, we used to use a soya/semo boilie with no colour or flavour, in the extremely muddy T&M canal... Put any freebies out and the bream would be a problem, so they were fished as single hookbaits, on the deck... Caught plenty like this, as location was spot on, but they still had to find the bait... To a human there was little smell or taste to it but the carp could find it easily enough, and with visibility/clarity at about 2” or so...
Subsequently, in later years we went on to fish Redesmere, where the high attract single “on the chuck” was a very popular and effective method, with all sorts of experimentation around flavours, levels and colours... I believe this is where Frank first started mucking around with the idea, and Trev's sold the little blister packs of fizz/harvest shortly afterwards... A million miles from those canal baits but it just shows that they'll find ‘em at either end of the spectrum - a really, really effective one is what we're after, however...
When I was a skint teenager, we used to use a soya/semo boilie with no colour or flavour, in the extremely muddy T&M canal... Put any freebies out and the bream would be a problem, so they were fished as single hookbaits, on the deck... Caught plenty like this, as location was spot on, but they still had to find the bait... To a human there was little smell or taste to it but the carp could find it easily enough, and with visibility/clarity at about 2” or so...
Subsequently, in later years we went on to fish Redesmere, where the high attract single “on the chuck” was a very popular and effective method, with all sorts of experimentation around flavours, levels and colours... I believe this is where Frank first started mucking around with the idea, and Trev's sold the little blister packs of fizz/harvest shortly afterwards... A million miles from those canal baits but it just shows that they'll find ‘em at either end of the spectrum - a really, really effective one is what we're after, however...
I've always had the thought that the base mix is the attractor and the flavour/attractant etc was just a label prob harking back to Fred Wiltons thinking . I go back to the days when we used ground up cat biscuits and trout pellets and no flavour and caught thousands of carp, i'm guessing John Baker has the same thinking process "less is more" perhaps we underestimate just how sensitive a fishes sensory organs are?
In reply to Post #92
There's plenty of flavour in ground up cat biscuits and trout pellets. Just not “strawberry” or any other flavour that carp anglers like 👍 I too am of the school of a flavour is just a label to differentiate from other anglers baits as back in day we all mostly used the same base mixes. Certain flavours though definitely attract on their own imho
There's plenty of flavour in ground up cat biscuits and trout pellets. Just not “strawberry” or any other flavour that carp anglers like 👍 I too am of the school of a flavour is just a label to differentiate from other anglers baits as back in day we all mostly used the same base mixes. Certain flavours though definitely attract on their own imho
In reply to Post #93
Completely agree. Combine good flavour combos with the right colour and you have something that will get bites when fishing over bait fails
Completely agree. Combine good flavour combos with the right colour and you have something that will get bites when fishing over bait fails
In reply to Post #94
Definitely 👍 and the fun part is the experimentation and application. Although not always needed I never leave home without a pot or three!
Definitely 👍 and the fun part is the experimentation and application. Although not always needed I never leave home without a pot or three!
So, I was having a nosy on Johns site, looking at the flavours and other stuff as you do 
I came across this. Thought I would share it Flavours
Some people may find it interesting,,especially the ones paying a fortune for the old oxidised flavours £
I came across this. Thought I would share it Flavours
Some people may find it interesting,,especially the ones paying a fortune for the old oxidised flavours £
In reply to Post #96
New to this but looking at his site wanting to make a paste for cork balls can anyone give me the list of what I need to Order I know which flavour etc but base mix etc would be a help ?
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New to this but looking at his site wanting to make a paste for cork balls can anyone give me the list of what I need to Order I know which flavour etc but base mix etc would be a help ?
😁😁😁
In reply to Post #97
If you look mate he now does small bags of base mix with added egg albumen what he is selling as hookbait mixes. They may be sieved,? You would have to call him and find out, plus he will give you all the advise you need, including flavour selection and levels etc
Start with flavour combinations and it really is down to the angler, and if the fish like it
So in summary, a hook bait mix and flavours, he may recommended an hydroslate too etc
If you look mate he now does small bags of base mix with added egg albumen what he is selling as hookbait mixes. They may be sieved,? You would have to call him and find out, plus he will give you all the advise you need, including flavour selection and levels etc
Start with flavour combinations and it really is down to the angler, and if the fish like it
So in summary, a hook bait mix and flavours, he may recommended an hydroslate too etc
In reply to Post #97
As said he does hook bait mixes now, sieved with added hardeners.
As said he does hook bait mixes now, sieved with added hardeners.
In reply to Post #97
Check out his videos on Youtube. Will give you all the info you need.
Check out his videos on Youtube. Will give you all the info you need.
In reply to Post #100
Buttermilk hook bait mix
Plum
Milky 1
Is in my basket just not sure weather I need anything else additive etc
Buttermilk hook bait mix
Plum
Milky 1
Is in my basket just not sure weather I need anything else additive etc
In reply to Post #101
Read the suggested recipes on his website - that will tell you what to add. Or contact him about them.
Read the suggested recipes on his website - that will tell you what to add. Or contact him about them.
In reply to Post #102
The mini bottles of flavour are back up on website now
The mini bottles of flavour are back up on website now
In reply to Post #102
Ended up ordering specialised hookbaits S2 cork balls...saved money and a lot of hassle lol plus I feel these are gonna be of better standard and quality than anything I can roll
Ended up ordering specialised hookbaits S2 cork balls...saved money and a lot of hassle lol plus I feel these are gonna be of better standard and quality than anything I can roll
In reply to Post #104
Catching a fish on a homemade bait/hookbait will give you a far greater sense of achievement than any shop or web sold bait, from a cost perspective you've paid for a pot the base mix + additives would have provided multiple pots different shapes and buoyancy.
Each to their own
Michael
Catching a fish on a homemade bait/hookbait will give you a far greater sense of achievement than any shop or web sold bait, from a cost perspective you've paid for a pot the base mix + additives would have provided multiple pots different shapes and buoyancy.
Each to their own
Michael