In reply to Post #45
Politics makes my **** itch but the war in Ukraine concerns me
I said last time when Trump was in, he got it so right and so wrong and off he goes again!
The press conference was nothing more than an utter embarrassment, staged and truly dreadful and in front of the world, horrendous
On reflection I can understand them wanting some returns in minerals, why not, they are pumping billions in at the moment, or were.
I can also understand them wanting Europe to stand on its own two feet if I am honest. We need to be united, I believe Putin is a real threat
And, here he goes again, initial stock market crash, 25% import tax for Canada and Mexico and 20% for China.if I was an American citizen I would probably be happy. Opted out of a war and saved a fortune, put a stranglehold on imports which can only be good for US business
But, if anybody could start WW3, it would be this tit
I wish someone would come along and make the UK great again!
Politics makes my **** itch but the war in Ukraine concerns me
I said last time when Trump was in, he got it so right and so wrong and off he goes again!
The press conference was nothing more than an utter embarrassment, staged and truly dreadful and in front of the world, horrendous
On reflection I can understand them wanting some returns in minerals, why not, they are pumping billions in at the moment, or were.
I can also understand them wanting Europe to stand on its own two feet if I am honest. We need to be united, I believe Putin is a real threat
And, here he goes again, initial stock market crash, 25% import tax for Canada and Mexico and 20% for China.if I was an American citizen I would probably be happy. Opted out of a war and saved a fortune, put a stranglehold on imports which can only be good for US business
But, if anybody could start WW3, it would be this tit
I wish someone would come along and make the UK great again!
In reply to Post #46
Disagree with Putin being the real threat, the land Russia has taken was predominantly occupied by russian speaking civilians who want to be russian and have been persecuted by Ukraine and many were murdered while the world did nothing so Putin did. Zelensky was offered peice talks only two weeks into the war but refused and has done so ever since. Why are we funding the second most corrupt country in the world ? Starmer talking about troops on the ground but let's not forget thousands fled Ukraine and as they have all served under subscription they should be returned to fight for thier country before any of our own are sent out there.
Disagree with Putin being the real threat, the land Russia has taken was predominantly occupied by russian speaking civilians who want to be russian and have been persecuted by Ukraine and many were murdered while the world did nothing so Putin did. Zelensky was offered peice talks only two weeks into the war but refused and has done so ever since. Why are we funding the second most corrupt country in the world ? Starmer talking about troops on the ground but let's not forget thousands fled Ukraine and as they have all served under subscription they should be returned to fight for thier country before any of our own are sent out there.
In reply to Post #47
"Modern Ukraine was entirely created by Russia or, to be more precise, by Bolshevik, Communist Russia," he said.
The process started right after the 1917 revolution, when Soviet leader Vladimir Lenin and his associates "separated, severed what historically Russian land is" to form the Soviet Republic of Ukraine, he added.
Then, another Soviet leader, Joseph Stalin, transferred to Ukraine some lands that previously belonged to Poland, Romania, and Hungary, giving to Poland as compensation "part of what was traditionally German land," Putin also noted.
Finally, in 1954, one more Soviet leader, Nikita Khrushchev, took Crimea away from Russia "for some reason" and also gave it to Ukraine.
"In effect, this is how the territory of modern Ukraine was formed," Putin said.
An now he wants it back. They are an independent state and don't want to be part of Russia, similar to the breakaway states, Chechen War? what happened there!
"Modern Ukraine was entirely created by Russia or, to be more precise, by Bolshevik, Communist Russia," he said.
The process started right after the 1917 revolution, when Soviet leader Vladimir Lenin and his associates "separated, severed what historically Russian land is" to form the Soviet Republic of Ukraine, he added.
Then, another Soviet leader, Joseph Stalin, transferred to Ukraine some lands that previously belonged to Poland, Romania, and Hungary, giving to Poland as compensation "part of what was traditionally German land," Putin also noted.
Finally, in 1954, one more Soviet leader, Nikita Khrushchev, took Crimea away from Russia "for some reason" and also gave it to Ukraine.
"In effect, this is how the territory of modern Ukraine was formed," Putin said.
An now he wants it back. They are an independent state and don't want to be part of Russia, similar to the breakaway states, Chechen War? what happened there!
In 1994 under the tri-lateral agreement with the US and Russia to dis-arm its nukes, Ukraine was given assurances/guarantees of security in order to do so; look at how that's played out. Had Ukraine kept its nuclear capability I very much doubt Russia would have even attempted to annex Crimea in 2014, let alone the full illegal invasion and war in 2022. Ironically given that Zelenskyy is seeking 'security assurances' from the US now for the future, I'd be pointing out that the US has already let him down significantly in allowing his country to be invaded and any promises for future security probably have no substance to them.
In reply to Post #48
People of Crimea and Donbass wanted to be part of Russia and were russian speaking and have been murdered and tortured by Ukrainian people for years as said while the world ignored it. As said second most corrupt country in the world and offered peice on several occasions since it started . Offered a deal by trump that would have ensured peice but again not interested.
People of Crimea and Donbass wanted to be part of Russia and were russian speaking and have been murdered and tortured by Ukrainian people for years as said while the world ignored it. As said second most corrupt country in the world and offered peice on several occasions since it started . Offered a deal by trump that would have ensured peice but again not interested.
In reply to Post #50
You have this information from the Russian speaking Ukrainians in these regions? Or do you just spend a lot of time on Facebook?
You have this information from the Russian speaking Ukrainians in these regions? Or do you just spend a lot of time on Facebook?
In reply to Post #51
Nothing to do with FB, fact is Ukraine had subscription and all were trained in the military and all those of age to fight should do so before we commit any of our troops . If you think we and the un stand any chance against Russia uuuuummm. Possibly but tens of thousands will die on both sides which is pointless when one man has repeatedly refused a piece deal.
Nothing to do with FB, fact is Ukraine had subscription and all were trained in the military and all those of age to fight should do so before we commit any of our troops . If you think we and the un stand any chance against Russia uuuuummm. Possibly but tens of thousands will die on both sides which is pointless when one man has repeatedly refused a piece deal.
In reply to Post #49
Agreed RKB.
Ukraine have f**k all to be thankful to the US for. The US gave their word to protect Ukraine in exchange for the nukes in 94. Ukraine was/is owed that protection.
"Thank us.... go on.... THANK US"!
F***ing rats.
Agreed RKB.
Ukraine have f**k all to be thankful to the US for. The US gave their word to protect Ukraine in exchange for the nukes in 94. Ukraine was/is owed that protection.
"Thank us.... go on.... THANK US"!
F***ing rats.
The long destructive shadow of Obama's Russia doctrine.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/07/11/obama-russia-ukraine-war-putin-2014-crimea-georgia-biden/
Interesting article.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/07/11/obama-russia-ukraine-war-putin-2014-crimea-georgia-biden/
Interesting article.
In reply to Post #52
I assume you mean conscription? Is your information first hand from the Russian speaking Ukrainians you speak of, or did you read it on a screen?
I assume you mean conscription? Is your information first hand from the Russian speaking Ukrainians you speak of, or did you read it on a screen?
In reply to Post #55
Spoken to both Russian and Ukrainian along with Polish, we live in a very different world now compared to an era when that agreement was made three decades ago and that trump was no part of. The American economy is broke same as ours but trump is trying to fix it and is not a war monger unlike the idiot he replaced. Good luck to o the UK and UN which was funded to a massive extent by the USA.
Spoken to both Russian and Ukrainian along with Polish, we live in a very different world now compared to an era when that agreement was made three decades ago and that trump was no part of. The American economy is broke same as ours but trump is trying to fix it and is not a war monger unlike the idiot he replaced. Good luck to o the UK and UN which was funded to a massive extent by the USA.
I think trump will be the first president to be KILLED in office since Kennedy.
Now the question is will it again be an inside job or a foreign entity...
Now the question is will it again be an inside job or a foreign entity...
In reply to Post #54
Interesting, and similar to what I have read. If Ukraine folds it's a case of who will be next, the European leaders know it, and now Tump has basically took that one step further, deal with it yourself!
Interesting, and similar to what I have read. If Ukraine folds it's a case of who will be next, the European leaders know it, and now Tump has basically took that one step further, deal with it yourself!
In reply to Post #58
More than one step further - he is aligning the US with Russia.
More than one step further - he is aligning the US with Russia.
In reply to Post #59
Agree, let's just hope it's those two who end up trading missiles!
Agree, let's just hope it's those two who end up trading missiles!