Would nutritional yeast which you can buy in Holland and Barrett and supermarkets etc, be a viable alternative to brewers yeast?
In reply to Post #41
A carp fishing friend (Phil) was site manager at fairly large company who amongst other thing processed yeast which was imported from all over the world for use in human foods ,yeast has always figured as an essential ingredient in my bait production which is how we first met.
Phil had over the years tested all of the yeasts available to him ,and had a firm favourite , which he referred to as Alcohol yeast.
We used this yeast in baits as well as buying many tonnes of other yeasts from the company as well, several years ago said company was sold ,and the new owners hived off the yeast business to France ,so my supply ceased to be available then I came across Brocacel and guess what it WAS the same Alcohol yeast so I thought that's perfect even if more expensive its worth the money.
I with another company buy a tonne at a time, direct from the producers which was great until last year when we had a delivery , a soon as I opened the first sack I knew instantly this was not the same yeast ,it was bog standard Brewers Yeast, we complained to no avail.
So maybe not a new Holy Grail ,but it was maybe the best yeast to use in bait depending on what yeast you receive.
My question is what are they selling now?
Equally I also wonder how many of you will know the difference ?
Brewers yeast is still a very good ingredient for use in baits.
A carp fishing friend (Phil) was site manager at fairly large company who amongst other thing processed yeast which was imported from all over the world for use in human foods ,yeast has always figured as an essential ingredient in my bait production which is how we first met.
Phil had over the years tested all of the yeasts available to him ,and had a firm favourite , which he referred to as Alcohol yeast.
We used this yeast in baits as well as buying many tonnes of other yeasts from the company as well, several years ago said company was sold ,and the new owners hived off the yeast business to France ,so my supply ceased to be available then I came across Brocacel and guess what it WAS the same Alcohol yeast so I thought that's perfect even if more expensive its worth the money.
I with another company buy a tonne at a time, direct from the producers which was great until last year when we had a delivery , a soon as I opened the first sack I knew instantly this was not the same yeast ,it was bog standard Brewers Yeast, we complained to no avail.
So maybe not a new Holy Grail ,but it was maybe the best yeast to use in bait depending on what yeast you receive.
My question is what are they selling now?
Equally I also wonder how many of you will know the difference ?
Brewers yeast is still a very good ingredient for use in baits.
In reply to Post #32
You say
However, Brocacel yeast is a deactivated culture of the yeast called saccharomyces cerevisiae (the same species of yeast used in baking, brewing, etc., etc.)
I would agree that the last tonne we had was " saccharomyces cerevisiae " but this is not the yeast Brocacel's reputation was gained from as previously it was a different variety of yeast.
I have literally had tonnes of each of them.
You say
However, Brocacel yeast is a deactivated culture of the yeast called saccharomyces cerevisiae (the same species of yeast used in baking, brewing, etc., etc.)
I would agree that the last tonne we had was " saccharomyces cerevisiae " but this is not the yeast Brocacel's reputation was gained from as previously it was a different variety of yeast.
I have literally had tonnes of each of them.
In reply to Post #50
There are two companies I can think of that produce very high quality yeast products. I have some very good samples ranging in price from 45 quid a sack up to 300 quid a sack. Tasting and smelling them has become a very good method of spotting the best ones. I rate yeast hugely and use them in every bait I make due to the vitamins they offer and the taste.
The best one in this country is impossible to prize out of the owners hands. I have tried every angle I can think of to get hold of it but to no avail. Does a yeast need to be active to be good? 100 percent no it doesn't!
Also, this year I have struggled to get hold of brewers yeast for the first time in all the years I have used it. Bait ingredients are becoming a pain
There are two companies I can think of that produce very high quality yeast products. I have some very good samples ranging in price from 45 quid a sack up to 300 quid a sack. Tasting and smelling them has become a very good method of spotting the best ones. I rate yeast hugely and use them in every bait I make due to the vitamins they offer and the taste.
The best one in this country is impossible to prize out of the owners hands. I have tried every angle I can think of to get hold of it but to no avail. Does a yeast need to be active to be good? 100 percent no it doesn't!
Also, this year I have struggled to get hold of brewers yeast for the first time in all the years I have used it. Bait ingredients are becoming a pain
In reply to Post #49
Very interesting and informative post. Thanks. I recently (amongst other bits... Inspired by the Sense Appeal discussion from a while ago) purchased some 'Brocacel' from Quality Baits (who I suspect you have some link with?).... What I got was certainly not Brocacel... Though it is certainly a very very nice yeast indeed.
Oh, and the Shellfish Sense Appeal is outstanding... Easily the closest I've seen the Hutchie original, if not identical, so thanks again for that!
Very interesting and informative post. Thanks. I recently (amongst other bits... Inspired by the Sense Appeal discussion from a while ago) purchased some 'Brocacel' from Quality Baits (who I suspect you have some link with?).... What I got was certainly not Brocacel... Though it is certainly a very very nice yeast indeed.
Oh, and the Shellfish Sense Appeal is outstanding... Easily the closest I've seen the Hutchie original, if not identical, so thanks again for that!
In reply to Post #51
Really interesting read - i think i know what the alcohol yeast is that is referred to compared to standard brewers yeast.
And interesting to read about the variability of the product that people get as brewers yeast.
Most of the inactive stuff you get in powder form is whats referred to as surplus yeast - as its its been used several times over for fermenting until its viability is too low to be efficient and then it is acid washed to kill off and dried from a liquid to a powder for animal feed.
I have been using fresh live liquid brewers yeast in last few weeks and even on a small sample as a glug on the same boilie it appears to out catch the boilie without. Also quite easy to control as well if treated and used in certain ways
Really interesting read - i think i know what the alcohol yeast is that is referred to compared to standard brewers yeast.
And interesting to read about the variability of the product that people get as brewers yeast.
Most of the inactive stuff you get in powder form is whats referred to as surplus yeast - as its its been used several times over for fermenting until its viability is too low to be efficient and then it is acid washed to kill off and dried from a liquid to a powder for animal feed.
I have been using fresh live liquid brewers yeast in last few weeks and even on a small sample as a glug on the same boilie it appears to out catch the boilie without. Also quite easy to control as well if treated and used in certain ways
In reply to Post #53
ive stayed away from anything active since my CSL car incident......
ive stayed away from anything active since my CSL car incident......
In reply to Post #53
re**I have been using fresh live liquid brewers yeast in last few weeks and even on a small sample as a glug on the same boilie it appears to out catch the boilie without. Also quite easy to control as well if treated and used in certain ways **
just come across this old thread must say very interesting as ive always used yeast in my baits, just a quick question if i may...
"Also quite easy to control as well if treated and used in certain ways"
pls can you expand on the above, pm if you prefer. TIA!
BTW,
In reply to Post #38
Great story bro.
Post #38 MISSING? is it secret lol
re**I have been using fresh live liquid brewers yeast in last few weeks and even on a small sample as a glug on the same boilie it appears to out catch the boilie without. Also quite easy to control as well if treated and used in certain ways **
just come across this old thread must say very interesting as ive always used yeast in my baits, just a quick question if i may...
"Also quite easy to control as well if treated and used in certain ways"
pls can you expand on the above, pm if you prefer. TIA!
BTW,
In reply to Post #38
Great story bro.
Post #38 MISSING? is it secret lol
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Spread the love. What's all this private messaging 😂😂😂
Spread the love. What's all this private messaging 😂😂😂