In reply to Post #27
A hypodermic goes straight in, it doesn't have a bend to pull or tear against. It is not using a curve to pull you.
A hypodermic goes straight in, it doesn't have a bend to pull or tear against. It is not using a curve to pull you.
In reply to Post #29
I was sharpening partridge hooks with a carborundum pegley Davis hook sharpener in 1975. Those hooks needed sharpening. Many modern hooks are sharp enough to catch most fish. See Adam Pennings video for how to deal with the rest.
I was sharpening partridge hooks with a carborundum pegley Davis hook sharpener in 1975. Those hooks needed sharpening. Many modern hooks are sharp enough to catch most fish. See Adam Pennings video for how to deal with the rest.
In reply to Post #29
Nice one Nick, you couldn't have reinforced my point (no pun intended) any better
Nice one Nick, you couldn't have reinforced my point (no pun intended) any better
In reply to Post #33
And you made my point perfectly, that you are boring, and you don't have real life experience to back up your opinion, which is why it is worthless.
My original point (sic) was that if your hooks aren't sharp enough out of the packet, then find a brand that is, don't follow fashion, and that includes having to sharpen hooks.
I gave examples of hooks that are sharp enough out of the packet,
Gamakatsu, Solar 101's, Gardner Muggas, Drennan Super Specialist, even Kamasan B175's.
Now for more personal experience, so proving my point:
On Brackens I pinched a rig from my mate when I set up, He was using Korda Kurves.
After a few bleeps I had no further indication, so I gave it 10 minutes then reeled in to check the rig. Not liking the sharpness of a hook that he had freshly tied straight from the pack I retied a tig with my own Muggas. A few minutes later that recast rod went away with a 20lb mirror.
When I got home I checked the rest of the Kurves he had tied. I was able to lift a 3oz inline lead with the rig and hookpoint on the tip of my finger (photos are available), without the hook going in. I could not do that with Muggas, Gp204's or Kamasans, the instant pr ick, and pain meant I was not going to go any further.
So if your hook brand means you are sharpening hooks before you need to use them, then find a brand you don't need to.
Ask Terry Hearn, he doesn't sharpen his hooks
And you made my point perfectly, that you are boring, and you don't have real life experience to back up your opinion, which is why it is worthless.
My original point (sic) was that if your hooks aren't sharp enough out of the packet, then find a brand that is, don't follow fashion, and that includes having to sharpen hooks.
I gave examples of hooks that are sharp enough out of the packet,
Gamakatsu, Solar 101's, Gardner Muggas, Drennan Super Specialist, even Kamasan B175's.
Now for more personal experience, so proving my point:
On Brackens I pinched a rig from my mate when I set up, He was using Korda Kurves.
After a few bleeps I had no further indication, so I gave it 10 minutes then reeled in to check the rig. Not liking the sharpness of a hook that he had freshly tied straight from the pack I retied a tig with my own Muggas. A few minutes later that recast rod went away with a 20lb mirror.
When I got home I checked the rest of the Kurves he had tied. I was able to lift a 3oz inline lead with the rig and hookpoint on the tip of my finger (photos are available), without the hook going in. I could not do that with Muggas, Gp204's or Kamasans, the instant pr ick, and pain meant I was not going to go any further.
So if your hook brand means you are sharpening hooks before you need to use them, then find a brand you don't need to.
Ask Terry Hearn, he doesn't sharpen his hooks
In reply to Post #34
Any little edge is a good edge. I'll continue with the so called fashion
Any little edge is a good edge. I'll continue with the so called fashion
In reply to Post #34
I used to sharpen hooks, but now I don't bother.
I find with hooks which are PTFE coated, or chemically sharpened, you only have to take a tiny amount of metal off and you remove some of the hardened outer metal, and they rust and the points turn over much faster.
I generally just swap the whole hook or change the rig, if the hook loses sharpness. I mostly use either Muggas or Talon-tip wide-gapes.
I used to sharpen hooks, but now I don't bother.
I find with hooks which are PTFE coated, or chemically sharpened, you only have to take a tiny amount of metal off and you remove some of the hardened outer metal, and they rust and the points turn over much faster.
I generally just swap the whole hook or change the rig, if the hook loses sharpness. I mostly use either Muggas or Talon-tip wide-gapes.
In reply to Post #33
There is no point arguing with some people mate. Just give up 
There is no point arguing with some people mate. Just give up
In reply to Post #37
Has any of these posts helped the op out 
In reply to Post #39
My syndicate has got quite hard this past 6 months and it's really quite interesting to see those who are still catching. I believe 2 fish in the past 6 weeks have been caught 1 by me and now another dude who also happens to use J Precision hand sharpened hooks has caught a 30lb ghosty this morning.
I do notice when the going gets tough these little edges all help. Fish are not moving so fast, so wont be using the force of the lead to drive the hook home.
Ps: make that a new lake record
My syndicate has got quite hard this past 6 months and it's really quite interesting to see those who are still catching. I believe 2 fish in the past 6 weeks have been caught 1 by me and now another dude who also happens to use J Precision hand sharpened hooks has caught a 30lb ghosty this morning.
I do notice when the going gets tough these little edges all help. Fish are not moving so fast, so wont be using the force of the lead to drive the hook home.
Ps: make that a new lake record
In reply to Post #39
Thats what happens every time on here, some expert ruins a thread ramming there opinion up everyones ass.
Embarrassing that grown men act like it really...
Thats what happens every time on here, some expert ruins a thread ramming there opinion up everyones ass.
Embarrassing that grown men act like it really...
In reply to Post #37
Wise words from Yonny , these people aren't worth it
Wise words from Yonny , these people aren't worth it
In reply to Post #41
It seems pretty obvious the op is thinking of selling hand sharpened hooks and just wanted people's opinion on a few things.I think the j precision hooks are reasonable priced but would pay extra to have them in a box like ridgemonkey and korda kaptors used to be,helps protect the points
It seems pretty obvious the op is thinking of selling hand sharpened hooks and just wanted people's opinion on a few things.I think the j precision hooks are reasonable priced but would pay extra to have them in a box like ridgemonkey and korda kaptors used to be,helps protect the points
In reply to Post #43
What JP does is give you a 'free' hook box if you buy 8 packets or more as well as offering numerous box deals throughout the year. For me those boxes are great as I only need the one box with multiple sizes and patterns. I find myself much more organised now than when I was carrying multiple packets, or boxes of hooks around with me. I do agree with you that I am also not a fan of the packets hooks traditionally come in
What JP does is give you a 'free' hook box if you buy 8 packets or more as well as offering numerous box deals throughout the year. For me those boxes are great as I only need the one box with multiple sizes and patterns. I find myself much more organised now than when I was carrying multiple packets, or boxes of hooks around with me. I do agree with you that I am also not a fan of the packets hooks traditionally come in
In reply to Post #44
I got a box deal one when I first ordered
I got a box deal one when I first ordered