I have never bought a bit of tackle on how it looks 
I buy on how it performs I bought a set of Gardner ATT alarms used them for a 14 day French trip sold them as soon as I got back
and bought another set of the best alarms made Delkim vastly superior in every way the most versatile alarms provided your not thick that can be adjusted for every situation even the brightness of the leds super bright for sunshine and dimmer for nightime use
not always true but in this instance it is you get what you pay for
I buy on how it performs I bought a set of Gardner ATT alarms used them for a 14 day French trip sold them as soon as I got back
and bought another set of the best alarms made Delkim vastly superior in every way the most versatile alarms provided your not thick that can be adjusted for every situation even the brightness of the leds super bright for sunshine and dimmer for nightime use
not always true but in this instance it is you get what you pay for
In reply to Post #29
If you've set up your indicators correctly, that won't happen. Which indicators did you use and how did you set them up when your atts let you down with kiting fish?
If you've set up your indicators correctly, that won't happen. Which indicators did you use and how did you set them up when your atts let you down with kiting fish?
In reply to Post #32
Mine wasn't with atts, but I've been there and seen it when it's happened to their users. It's a fault with roller buzzers in general, not just atts. I had it happen with both swingers and hangers, always set with drop of a good few inches
Mine wasn't with atts, but I've been there and seen it when it's happened to their users. It's a fault with roller buzzers in general, not just atts. I had it happen with both swingers and hangers, always set with drop of a good few inches
In reply to Post #33
so all your sagging off of att's is based on not owning them.
so all your sagging off of att's is based on not owning them.
In reply to Post #24
Interesting , I've only ever had the problem of fish kiting with no registration on Delkim alarms , never had it happen on Fox Ntxr which is obviously a roller wheel alarm .
I've had it happen on delks where I've had to turn the sensitivity down a little because of wind/undertow and never had a bleep despite the bobbin falling a good few inches while kiting , this wouldn't have happened on a roller buzzer , and yes it was a fairly tight line and yes I had them turned down slightly to prevent false indication , this was just one of a few reasons I got rid of them .
The Ntxr in my opinion has a much more advanced sensitivity system , it's not just a progressive dial like on the older delks , we all have our favourite alarms though and stick with what we choose best I suppose
Interesting , I've only ever had the problem of fish kiting with no registration on Delkim alarms , never had it happen on Fox Ntxr which is obviously a roller wheel alarm .
I've had it happen on delks where I've had to turn the sensitivity down a little because of wind/undertow and never had a bleep despite the bobbin falling a good few inches while kiting , this wouldn't have happened on a roller buzzer , and yes it was a fairly tight line and yes I had them turned down slightly to prevent false indication , this was just one of a few reasons I got rid of them .
The Ntxr in my opinion has a much more advanced sensitivity system , it's not just a progressive dial like on the older delks , we all have our favourite alarms though and stick with what we choose best I suppose
In reply to Post #34
No, I've owned them too. Just that particular issue never happened when I had them, but seen it on others. I bought a set of 4 off here and got shot of them again because they were crap
No, I've owned them too. Just that particular issue never happened when I had them, but seen it on others. I bought a set of 4 off here and got shot of them again because they were crap
In reply to Post #25
It can happen with a tight line.
As the fish runs it moves in an arc, a curve. The indicator does not move up or down, and the roller buzzer does not sound. The only indication is the line cutting through the water.
I have seen it happen more than once.
I do like the look of the Att's but the fact that they don't have vibration sensing is what leads me keeping on with my 20year old Delkims and the dongles to Att receiver.
I don't often have problems with false bleeps, I have learnt to adjust them properly, although occasionally a nearby thunderstorm can set them off.
It can happen with a tight line.
As the fish runs it moves in an arc, a curve. The indicator does not move up or down, and the roller buzzer does not sound. The only indication is the line cutting through the water.
I have seen it happen more than once.
I do like the look of the Att's but the fact that they don't have vibration sensing is what leads me keeping on with my 20year old Delkims and the dongles to Att receiver.
I don't often have problems with false bleeps, I have learnt to adjust them properly, although occasionally a nearby thunderstorm can set them off.
Onto my second set now, gone with the iw versions. Love them.
Find them a lot better with 4 mag roller wheels though.
Find them a lot better with 4 mag roller wheels though.
Ive been using atts alarms for years now. Main two issues I've had is the roller wheel getting stuck, this almost cost me a fish once but luckily woke up to the clutch going into meltdown and landed the fish. There also can be a delay between the receiver and alarm, this makes twitchy bites and drop backs a pain in the middle of the night when you have only received one bleep.
In reply to Post #39
The delay is caused by out of date firmware on the receiver. Gardner can sort this out, but you'll need to send it off to them. I think they do it at the shows where they have a stand too.
The delay is caused by out of date firmware on the receiver. Gardner can sort this out, but you'll need to send it off to them. I think they do it at the shows where they have a stand too.
In reply to Post #39
That's an easy fix
a drop of glycerin on it sorts that out
I think a lot of the problems With the kiting are the line slipping down the side of the roller and that is why people say they are not getting indications that is the only time I have ever not had an indication. I Will regularly fish at almost 90 degrees to my alarms however I fish with tightish lines So the tip bends round if I get a pull.
God forbid anyone actually makes a mistake like that or will admit it Or even notice that they have done it, because I know I have done it I make sure it doesn't happen on any roller wheel alarm Whether it be a fox a Neville or an att Or even my mates sonics
That's an easy fix
a drop of glycerin on it sorts that out
I think a lot of the problems With the kiting are the line slipping down the side of the roller and that is why people say they are not getting indications that is the only time I have ever not had an indication. I Will regularly fish at almost 90 degrees to my alarms however I fish with tightish lines So the tip bends round if I get a pull.
God forbid anyone actually makes a mistake like that or will admit it Or even notice that they have done it, because I know I have done it I make sure it doesn't happen on any roller wheel alarm Whether it be a fox a Neville or an att Or even my mates sonics
In reply to Post #40
That's useful to know thanks mate
Mine have a delay...I am sending them off to Daltronics soon to have them serviced ... so will ask if the firmware can be upgraded at the same time.
I used to use the ATTs for my river fishing. You don't tend to get single beeps, just one toners.
Yes, I have missed the roller with the line before...very annoying but I notice when it happens as I tend to adjust the bobbin and ensure I get a beep before retiring to my bivvy / van!
The water proofing / robustness was my main reason for using the ATTs on the (tidal) river. One night the tide was higher than I anticipated and when I went to check the rods they (and the reels/alarms) were all 6 inches underwater. I had to go get my waders on quickly so I could get close enough to the front bank sticks (storm poles) in order to get my gear back. One of many 'hairy' river incidents...
That's useful to know thanks mate
Mine have a delay...I am sending them off to Daltronics soon to have them serviced ... so will ask if the firmware can be upgraded at the same time.
I used to use the ATTs for my river fishing. You don't tend to get single beeps, just one toners.
Yes, I have missed the roller with the line before...very annoying but I notice when it happens as I tend to adjust the bobbin and ensure I get a beep before retiring to my bivvy / van!
The water proofing / robustness was my main reason for using the ATTs on the (tidal) river. One night the tide was higher than I anticipated and when I went to check the rods they (and the reels/alarms) were all 6 inches underwater. I had to go get my waders on quickly so I could get close enough to the front bank sticks (storm poles) in order to get my gear back. One of many 'hairy' river incidents...
In reply to Post #19
Yes, they do I have both Nevilles with ATT back as and ATTS and both work on same receiver.
Yes, they do I have both Nevilles with ATT back as and ATTS and both work on same receiver.
In reply to Post #40
Is this delay different on the deluxe receiver?
Is this delay different on the deluxe receiver?