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Predatory fish on boilies (24 posts / 2,703 views)
Riggy Riggy
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Post #16 21 Nov 2020 09:17
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Haven't fished for predators for years, personal bests are all taken on boiled baits:

Catfish 30lb+ sticky krill wafter
Pike 23lb+ sticky krill pop up
Perch 3lb+ northern special wafter

Both catfish and perch were taken using solid pva bags where perhaps small fish were attacking the pellets?

Michael
scozza
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Post #17 21 Nov 2020 10:50
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In reply to Post #16
Both catfish and perch were taken using solid pva bags where perhaps small fish were attacking the pellets

Tactic of many a decent matchmen fishing bread punch for small roach in winter, bites drop off, change to half a worm, big perch!
viking
Posts: 1,225
Post #18 21 Nov 2020 10:56
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In reply to Post #15
He seem to think carp is the most uncritical of species, and most of his mixes will attract carp.
On his campaign for Trent carp he uses nearly everything from cheese to chocolate malt.
He is very clear on different spices and different flavors work best in specific locations and under certain conditions so you will need to find what works best where and when you fish. Something that catch roach on the Trent in summer might work better for chub in another location. If you should generalize he says sweet stuff in summer and spicy stuff in winter.
What made me start this thread in the first place was Braddocks writings on perch and pike which I find interesting. It made me do some testing with flavors and spices in my sea fishing and after many many hours I found that some stuff seem to work pretty well. While I have not found a single substance to work particularly good it seems blends can make a change.
scozza
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Post #19 21 Nov 2020 11:05
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In reply to Post #18
Interesting about the blends, also the sweet and spice, done that myself over the years

Archie Braddock is a bit of a legend, a lifetime of tinkering with spices, brilliant

I wouldn't mind a hour discussing them with him

Saying that, reading some of this I would assume Perch prefer spicy stuff, but a northern special is a bit different lol
viking
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Post #20 21 Nov 2020 15:55
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In reply to Post #19
Legend indeed, and a bit under the radar it seem.

A lot of the fish caught on bright popups is probably due to the visual aspects. All my pike and perch have fallen to that. Catfish seem to learn to pick up pellets etc pretty quick, same with trout.
Braddock made or make spicy additives targeting perch but I guess there can be stuff in it that don't shine through to the human nose.
mark1009
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Post #21 21 Nov 2020 17:45
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I've caught plenty of nuisance pike and eels on fishmeal baits. Not hi vis but mainly at night so presumably on smell.. Plenty of bream and tench on same baits. I did have a spell of catching large roach on high protein milk based baits which were very sweet and pineapple flavoured but coloured red like strawberries.
scozza
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Post #22 21 Nov 2020 20:59
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In reply to Post #20
There's one thing that is pretty amazing for me, same as the crucian thing for me and I know others who used it and did the same, a spice blend targets specific species, there's some effort and thinking gone into that

Probably the first 70 years

MARKerz
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Post #23 22 Nov 2020 09:21
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Having watched what happens after baiting with my particle seed mix, the small Roach come in and then are pushed out by the bigger Roach and not long after the Pike turn up and start striking across the spots.

Pre-bait for Pike would be one of my methods!
viking
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Post #24 22 Nov 2020 11:23
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In reply to Post #22
It is pretty amazing that you to some degree can cherry pick species by selecting the correct ingredients.

MARKerz:
Groundbaiting for pike is a great trick. Always had a pike rod ready when I fished for rudd. When the swim got quiet a deadbait usually gave results.


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