In reply to Post #197
Perfect scenario for the four rod option, use the lighter ones with a heavier one ready or on a spot further out just incase.
Perfect scenario for the four rod option, use the lighter ones with a heavier one ready or on a spot further out just incase.
In reply to Post #197
With identical line on the 3 reels and no spare spools, cause they've done all the money on the matching outfits. Rocky spot to the left, clear for 140 yards down the middle and a massive weed bed to the right
With identical line on the 3 reels and no spare spools, cause they've done all the money on the matching outfits. Rocky spot to the left, clear for 140 yards down the middle and a massive weed bed to the right
In reply to Post #200
Man up and fish two rods😂
Man up and fish two rods😂
In reply to Post #201
I prefer 3 with a snide
I prefer 3 with a snide
In reply to Post #194
I hear you. There is alot of pressure nowadays to think you need multiple types of rods and of course, perfect state, these maybe useful. When I first started carp fishing in the late 80's my first set of ‘matched rods' that I still use to this day, were 12' 2lb tc Armalites. I actually caught some fairly large fish (for the time!) from both UK and French waters on these and fished from under the rod top to 80/90yds. The rods people were using for bigger waters were 2.75-3lb t.c with occasional 3.25, whereas this seems to be the starting point today! Whilst undoubtedly carp are bigger now and longer range fishing seems to be a prequisite, you can probably do the majority of your fishing with a decent set of 3lb t.c rods. Yes on bigger waters or challenging winds you are sometimes going to get caught out but from in the margins to 100 yds plus these should be fine. Personally I now use Free Sprit Hi-S but they have plenty of cheaper models that would be suitable, if you found yourself in a position to upgrade. And obviously, if everyones fishing in the middle, chuck at least one in the edge!!
I hear you. There is alot of pressure nowadays to think you need multiple types of rods and of course, perfect state, these maybe useful. When I first started carp fishing in the late 80's my first set of ‘matched rods' that I still use to this day, were 12' 2lb tc Armalites. I actually caught some fairly large fish (for the time!) from both UK and French waters on these and fished from under the rod top to 80/90yds. The rods people were using for bigger waters were 2.75-3lb t.c with occasional 3.25, whereas this seems to be the starting point today! Whilst undoubtedly carp are bigger now and longer range fishing seems to be a prequisite, you can probably do the majority of your fishing with a decent set of 3lb t.c rods. Yes on bigger waters or challenging winds you are sometimes going to get caught out but from in the margins to 100 yds plus these should be fine. Personally I now use Free Sprit Hi-S but they have plenty of cheaper models that would be suitable, if you found yourself in a position to upgrade. And obviously, if everyones fishing in the middle, chuck at least one in the edge!!
In reply to Post #189
Nick, I've also come to this thread very late but I find your comments interesting. I've got two pairs of these rods - 8' 2.5lb TCs and 10' 3.25lb TCs - and I've found them really good. They've coped very well with everything from canal margin traps to snag fishing to chucking solid bags at far bank treelines, and they've been great for playing and landing fish to 30+. My only tackle-tarty regret is that I didn't get the cork handled versions. I've found them to be excellent rods.
Nick, I've also come to this thread very late but I find your comments interesting. I've got two pairs of these rods - 8' 2.5lb TCs and 10' 3.25lb TCs - and I've found them really good. They've coped very well with everything from canal margin traps to snag fishing to chucking solid bags at far bank treelines, and they've been great for playing and landing fish to 30+. My only tackle-tarty regret is that I didn't get the cork handled versions. I've found them to be excellent rods.
In reply to Post #204
I guess it's what you're used to? They are / were the first short rods I've used for carp fishing purposes (or ever will now!) and as someone who has used Harrison blanks (mainly ballista or Chimeras) for over 30 years maybe I've become accustomed to them and just found it impossible to adjust. Either way, they are definitely not for me but recognise that I don't have wider experience of fishing with such rods. Glad you got on with them. Maybe the 2.5 tc would have been more enjoyable for me to use?
I guess it's what you're used to? They are / were the first short rods I've used for carp fishing purposes (or ever will now!) and as someone who has used Harrison blanks (mainly ballista or Chimeras) for over 30 years maybe I've become accustomed to them and just found it impossible to adjust. Either way, they are definitely not for me but recognise that I don't have wider experience of fishing with such rods. Glad you got on with them. Maybe the 2.5 tc would have been more enjoyable for me to use?
I've come close to getting a set of of 10fters.
But I gave myself a Q and A ,talking to ,did I really need them,would I enjoy my fishing more ,various questions I asked..
I decided to carry on using my CTX 2.5 tc 12ft rods as they have a lovely playing curve and that's what I like ..
I fish tiny farm ponds right up to big ressi, I've enjoyed those rods,I could have multiple set ups,no problem,but nope ,I like minimal,less gear frees me up mentally and sometimes physically ..I used light tc rods for the whole time I've carp fished..
I can see why people like the shorter rods, I'm not against them at all,but it's what I'm used to..
But I gave myself a Q and A ,talking to ,did I really need them,would I enjoy my fishing more ,various questions I asked..
I decided to carry on using my CTX 2.5 tc 12ft rods as they have a lovely playing curve and that's what I like ..
I fish tiny farm ponds right up to big ressi, I've enjoyed those rods,I could have multiple set ups,no problem,but nope ,I like minimal,less gear frees me up mentally and sometimes physically ..I used light tc rods for the whole time I've carp fished..
I can see why people like the shorter rods, I'm not against them at all,but it's what I'm used to..
I've got a set of 9fts, love them. Pack down to 44inches so I can always leave a scaled down setup in the car
I actually talked myself into getting a set of 9ft rods last year only for one water I fish it's a small intimate water no bigger than 50/60 yards casts because of the amount of islands and bays it has, the fish are really spooky so didn't want the tips over the water and the swims are tiny so 12ft where a no go I actually really enjoy using them and playing fish on them.
Really takes me back to my child hood with a smaller rod I really like it, don't get me wrong I only use them on that one lane the rest I use my 12fts but they do have there place
Really takes me back to my child hood with a smaller rod I really like it, don't get me wrong I only use them on that one lane the rest I use my 12fts but they do have there place
Why is it the "Latest craze with short Rods?", when I started in the 60's, it was all you fished with as a 10' rod was the standard size and. And until the mid 80's, I still fished with my "10 footers" and then took the plunge and made myself 3 "11 footers" and eventually moved onto 12'.
When you saw someone using a 12' rod in the late 60's and 70's you looked at them as if they was using something from another planet and it went against the ethics of true carp fishing.
Basically, there is nothing wrong whatever size rod you use and one good thing with a short rod, it can be a damm sight easier netting a fish with a 12 footer at times. It seems the standard landing net handle did not increase with the increase in rod lengths and stuck at 6' unless you buy one with an extension.
Lure fishing for pike was the same, all my lure rods in the 60's early 70's were 10', but they went the opposite way and now all I use are 5' to 6' rods for lure fishing.
I even still have my 10' rods and often think of bringing them back into "action".
And just now whilst looking for Vintage ABU rods on Ebay. It has brought back some menories, I must have been a "Trailblazer" and starting "Crazes" off in the 60's . I had 3 x Abu Atlantic 403's lure rods for carp and pike fishing, all 9' long and I have just been out into my shed to measure the butt eye off my sole remaining "403" and it has a 40mm butt eye!!!!! I can recall at the time, they looked so out of place being so short and with big butt eyes up against my North Western SS4's, 10's with 20mm butt eyes and my "Tag Barnes Super Carp" 10's. And what are on the shelves today, 9 Footers with 40 and 50mm Butt eyes.
.
The wheel just goes "round and round".
And whatever you fish with......it does not matter. (Unless it is totally unsuitable for what you are doing etc)
When you saw someone using a 12' rod in the late 60's and 70's you looked at them as if they was using something from another planet and it went against the ethics of true carp fishing.
Basically, there is nothing wrong whatever size rod you use and one good thing with a short rod, it can be a damm sight easier netting a fish with a 12 footer at times. It seems the standard landing net handle did not increase with the increase in rod lengths and stuck at 6' unless you buy one with an extension.
Lure fishing for pike was the same, all my lure rods in the 60's early 70's were 10', but they went the opposite way and now all I use are 5' to 6' rods for lure fishing.
I even still have my 10' rods and often think of bringing them back into "action".
And just now whilst looking for Vintage ABU rods on Ebay. It has brought back some menories, I must have been a "Trailblazer" and starting "Crazes" off in the 60's . I had 3 x Abu Atlantic 403's lure rods for carp and pike fishing, all 9' long and I have just been out into my shed to measure the butt eye off my sole remaining "403" and it has a 40mm butt eye!!!!! I can recall at the time, they looked so out of place being so short and with big butt eyes up against my North Western SS4's, 10's with 20mm butt eyes and my "Tag Barnes Super Carp" 10's. And what are on the shelves today, 9 Footers with 40 and 50mm Butt eyes.
.
The wheel just goes "round and round".
And whatever you fish with......it does not matter. (Unless it is totally unsuitable for what you are doing etc)
I used the original Scopes in 9ft but did not get on with them and went back to using Hi S in 12 foot. I got offered some mk2 10ft Scopes for cheap so bought them and never looked back. The Free Spirits got sold and I have religiously used the Scopes since. Must be 5 years and probably 200 nights fishing later! They look tired now and need to be either revarnished or replaced but I feel like I have had value for money from them!
In reply to Post #210
Think its this new fishing thingy me bobby ive seen called 'urban' it seems to have spawned a load of little 4ft tall diddy men with hoddies and short rods! Lol
Think its this new fishing thingy me bobby ive seen called 'urban' it seems to have spawned a load of little 4ft tall diddy men with hoddies and short rods! Lol
In reply to Post #212
A whole new world
A whole new world
In reply to Post #213
Short rods aren't a new thing - how long were the Richard walkers rods? 😉.
Short rods aren't a new thing - how long were the Richard walkers rods? 😉.