In reply to Post #134
My club brought in an alcohol ban earlier this year after a couple of alcohol related/ fuelled incidents on the bank. I like a can or two whilst fishing, but many people were taking the p@@s, and drinking far too much. It's a shame the majority can no longer enjoy a beer, but it had to be done.
My club brought in an alcohol ban earlier this year after a couple of alcohol related/ fuelled incidents on the bank. I like a can or two whilst fishing, but many people were taking the p@@s, and drinking far too much. It's a shame the majority can no longer enjoy a beer, but it had to be done.
In reply to Post #136
My club has just put a message out that they will be cracking down on weed smokers anyone caught smoking weed on the lakes will be banned. They normally turn a blind eye to it but I suspect some of the members have been taking the piss.
My club has just put a message out that they will be cracking down on weed smokers anyone caught smoking weed on the lakes will be banned. They normally turn a blind eye to it but I suspect some of the members have been taking the piss.
In reply to Post #137
A mate that used to come with us was the same. On the bud all the time, used to make me laugh at first, big clouds coming out of the tent, smell it a mile off, totally trashed most of the time. I often questioned what pleasure he actually got out of fishing other than been trashed on the bank. Quite funny though when we used give his tent a good shake, Mr paranoid
Have to laugh, fishing one water, lad came down with a barrow load of gear. Stops and talks to me. 36 cans of Stella on the barrow, did 12 a day
A mate that used to come with us was the same. On the bud all the time, used to make me laugh at first, big clouds coming out of the tent, smell it a mile off, totally trashed most of the time. I often questioned what pleasure he actually got out of fishing other than been trashed on the bank. Quite funny though when we used give his tent a good shake, Mr paranoid
Have to laugh, fishing one water, lad came down with a barrow load of gear. Stops and talks to me. 36 cans of Stella on the barrow, did 12 a day
In reply to Post #135
Always been that way I'm afraid, 2 or three cans has turned into boxes for some, just one big piss up with related behaviour. For some this is a huge part of their fishing trips, just as important as the fishing, if not more so.
Always been that way I'm afraid, 2 or three cans has turned into boxes for some, just one big piss up with related behaviour. For some this is a huge part of their fishing trips, just as important as the fishing, if not more so.
In reply to Post #137
Lol. That's a good way to clear the banks of anglers. Nearly every angler I come across is blazzin hard. Ganna be some really edgy anglers on your club that like to burn hard that can't. Ha, it's ganna be like fight club.
Lol. That's a good way to clear the banks of anglers. Nearly every angler I come across is blazzin hard. Ganna be some really edgy anglers on your club that like to burn hard that can't. Ha, it's ganna be like fight club.
In reply to Post #132
This ain't a recent thing, it's a big part of the reason I gave up carp fishing in the mid-2000's. I go again now, but the lure of Barbel and the rivers is far stronger. Last weekend I had over half a mile of tidal Trent to myself, even when the stretch is ‘busy' you still have a minimum of 150-200 yards of water between you and another angler.
And it cost me £80 for the season!
This ain't a recent thing, it's a big part of the reason I gave up carp fishing in the mid-2000's. I go again now, but the lure of Barbel and the rivers is far stronger. Last weekend I had over half a mile of tidal Trent to myself, even when the stretch is ‘busy' you still have a minimum of 150-200 yards of water between you and another angler.
And it cost me £80 for the season!
In reply to Post #138
36 cans of Stella on the barrow, did 12 a day
Besides the noise and drunken aggro, You have got to question the beer swilling, pot smoking anglers ability to fish well, wake up quickly, handle big fish on the bank safely without dropping and snapping fins and tails, being p*ssed up.
Then when they leave the venue they are all probably over the legal limit so are putting themselves and their livelihood, and other people's lives at risk, driving home after a session.
36 cans of Stella on the barrow, did 12 a day
Besides the noise and drunken aggro, You have got to question the beer swilling, pot smoking anglers ability to fish well, wake up quickly, handle big fish on the bank safely without dropping and snapping fins and tails, being p*ssed up.
Then when they leave the venue they are all probably over the legal limit so are putting themselves and their livelihood, and other people's lives at risk, driving home after a session.
In reply to Post #142
Agree mate
I like a few cans on the bank, odd bottle of wine etc. but there's a limit for most folk but not for some
I mentioned one of my mates on the skunk. Thats why we got feed up with him, just a mong all the time, you have to question their capability. One of the lads told me he went with him one week and used to reel his rods in every evening, fed up with him. Not seen him for a while purposely, guess hes still at it
And the bud is proper mind thrashing stuff
Agree mate
I like a few cans on the bank, odd bottle of wine etc. but there's a limit for most folk but not for some
I mentioned one of my mates on the skunk. Thats why we got feed up with him, just a mong all the time, you have to question their capability. One of the lads told me he went with him one week and used to reel his rods in every evening, fed up with him. Not seen him for a while purposely, guess hes still at it
And the bud is proper mind thrashing stuff
In reply to Post #142
I've only skimmed through this as there's so much of it, but I'm quickly realising that I've lead a sheltered and somewhat privileged angling life. I grew up on the canals, being taught by my old man and gradually progressed through species before carp took over.
Since, I've never really done the day ticket thing and have been lucky to fish on a number of delightful syndicates, with sensible memberships only allowing people in after recommendation and interview. Even then though, it is so apparent that one or two “bad eggs” can change things markedly.
I was lucky enough to have been taught with etiquette at the forefront of everything. If you haven't had that luxury, then how do you learn? If you were to start out fishing on a day ticket or open access club, like most would, you are likely to be surrounded by poor angling practice and then deem that the norm... That's all the experience you have, why would you know any different?
The best place to learn how to carry yourself would be on a proper syndicate, but the likelihood of getting a ticket without already knowing that would be extremely slim. Much like graduates not being given jobs due to their lack of experience... they have to gain that experience somehow.
I've seen syndicates change very quickly because of inexperienced new members gaining tickets... markers flying about all over the lake at bite time. Baiting numerous swims at first light because you haven't had a bite “all night” (bearing in mind 5 bites a year is good going). Hardly criminal behaviour compared to day ticket fishing is it, but it was more than enough to seriously piss off the rest of the long standing, harmonious membership.
I saw something the other day that really made me realise that there is a different angling world going on.
I'd gone to a commercial fishery with the old man and my brother, just like the old times.
We sat with float rods, 6lb line and size 14's fishing for singles averaging about 4lb.
Then a couple of “carpers” turned up. After loudly declaring, “I'm fishing the closest peg to the car because I can't be arsed to walk”, a barrage of gear was unloaded and literally thrown into the peg.
They then spent AT LEAST half an hour setting up bivvies. Obviously brand new and they were made to look magazine worthy, all the vents rolled up perfectly, pegs in every point etc. I don't think they even had bed chairs with them and clearly weren't doing the night. It was 20odd degrees and sunny .
They then set up a chair at the front of the swim, nowhere near the bivvies and got their pods out. 10 minutes of alarms beeping at full volume and various tones later I couldn't stop laughing... they hadn't even taken a rod out of a sleeve. Eventually, they got around to fishing and literally dumped a couple of rigs off the tips. I'd actually thought they'd let go of the line by accident before casting but nope, two rigs in a pile, in 1ft of water off the tips after spending getting on for 2 hours setting stuff up. They spent the afternoon shouting to each other about who was better and who's alarm would sound the best when it went before getting pissed off that they hadn't caught and complaining about the fishery.
Is that really what fishing has become?!
I've only skimmed through this as there's so much of it, but I'm quickly realising that I've lead a sheltered and somewhat privileged angling life. I grew up on the canals, being taught by my old man and gradually progressed through species before carp took over.
Since, I've never really done the day ticket thing and have been lucky to fish on a number of delightful syndicates, with sensible memberships only allowing people in after recommendation and interview. Even then though, it is so apparent that one or two “bad eggs” can change things markedly.
I was lucky enough to have been taught with etiquette at the forefront of everything. If you haven't had that luxury, then how do you learn? If you were to start out fishing on a day ticket or open access club, like most would, you are likely to be surrounded by poor angling practice and then deem that the norm... That's all the experience you have, why would you know any different?
The best place to learn how to carry yourself would be on a proper syndicate, but the likelihood of getting a ticket without already knowing that would be extremely slim. Much like graduates not being given jobs due to their lack of experience... they have to gain that experience somehow.
I've seen syndicates change very quickly because of inexperienced new members gaining tickets... markers flying about all over the lake at bite time. Baiting numerous swims at first light because you haven't had a bite “all night” (bearing in mind 5 bites a year is good going). Hardly criminal behaviour compared to day ticket fishing is it, but it was more than enough to seriously piss off the rest of the long standing, harmonious membership.
I saw something the other day that really made me realise that there is a different angling world going on.
I'd gone to a commercial fishery with the old man and my brother, just like the old times.
We sat with float rods, 6lb line and size 14's fishing for singles averaging about 4lb.
Then a couple of “carpers” turned up. After loudly declaring, “I'm fishing the closest peg to the car because I can't be arsed to walk”, a barrage of gear was unloaded and literally thrown into the peg.
They then spent AT LEAST half an hour setting up bivvies. Obviously brand new and they were made to look magazine worthy, all the vents rolled up perfectly, pegs in every point etc. I don't think they even had bed chairs with them and clearly weren't doing the night. It was 20odd degrees and sunny
. They then set up a chair at the front of the swim, nowhere near the bivvies and got their pods out. 10 minutes of alarms beeping at full volume and various tones later I couldn't stop laughing... they hadn't even taken a rod out of a sleeve. Eventually, they got around to fishing and literally dumped a couple of rigs off the tips. I'd actually thought they'd let go of the line by accident before casting but nope, two rigs in a pile, in 1ft of water off the tips after spending getting on for 2 hours setting stuff up. They spent the afternoon shouting to each other about who was better and who's alarm would sound the best when it went before getting pissed off that they hadn't caught and complaining about the fishery.
Is that really what fishing has become?!
In reply to Post #144
Angling etiquette is no different from everyday life etiquette. Respect others and your surroundings. So I find your post quite elitist unfortunately.
Don't know why you think the life blood of angling the open access club would surround you with poor angling either. As you say anglers with fat wallets that have joined " proper syndicates" with vetting have turned out to be dick heads. You should be educating those in your example rather than s******ing at them.
Angling etiquette is no different from everyday life etiquette. Respect others and your surroundings. So I find your post quite elitist unfortunately.
Don't know why you think the life blood of angling the open access club would surround you with poor angling either. As you say anglers with fat wallets that have joined " proper syndicates" with vetting
have turned out to be dick heads. You should be educating those in your example rather than s******ing at them.
In reply to Post #145
Agreed. I grew up fishing Lincolnshire drains, local ponds, anywhere that was free, then went onto day tickets and have never been in a carp syndicate. Mainly because of the reasons stated above -plus massive waiting lists for anything decent in Yorkshire back in the day. Plus I've always kept myself to myself.
I know how to behave because I'm not a selfish bell end, it's that simple.
Agreed. I grew up fishing Lincolnshire drains, local ponds, anywhere that was free, then went onto day tickets and have never been in a carp syndicate. Mainly because of the reasons stated above -plus massive waiting lists for anything decent in Yorkshire back in the day. Plus I've always kept myself to myself.
I know how to behave because I'm not a selfish bell end, it's that simple.
In reply to Post #145
Angling etiquette is no different from everyday life etiquette
Couldn't agree more, problem is a lot of people leave it at home when fishing.
You should be educating those in your example
Can't see that going down well after x pints and spliffs.
Angling etiquette is no different from everyday life etiquette
Couldn't agree more, problem is a lot of people leave it at home when fishing.
You should be educating those in your example
Can't see that going down well after x pints and spliffs.
In reply to Post #146
I know how to behave because I'm not a selfish bell end, it's that simple.
Exactly that
Fishing is attracting more and more people due to all the hype. Couple this with folks from every walk of life and it attracts all sorts of characters, good, bad and the ugly. Copy this again with a falsified image of what carp fishing is supposed to be like (hyped up bollox) and it's quite clear to me why there's so many knob heads on the bank. Then add drugs and ale lol
No wonder people are getting fed up with it. The only ones remaining will be the ones who can shout louder than the other's in the end
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I know how to behave because I'm not a selfish bell end, it's that simple.
Exactly that
Fishing is attracting more and more people due to all the hype. Couple this with folks from every walk of life and it attracts all sorts of characters, good, bad and the ugly. Copy this again with a falsified image of what carp fishing is supposed to be like (hyped up bollox) and it's quite clear to me why there's so many knob heads on the bank. Then add drugs and ale lol
No wonder people are getting fed up with it. The only ones remaining will be the ones who can shout louder than the other's in the end
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In reply to Post #141
Me too, what a river, I've a ticket on the tidal, privalige to be there tbh, so glad I drove up to the trent 3 years back, opened up a new era in my fishing.
Me too, what a river, I've a ticket on the tidal, privalige to be there tbh, so glad I drove up to the trent 3 years back, opened up a new era in my fishing.
In reply to Post #148
I completely agree with so many points said here. Into my late teens and early 20s I was heavily inspired (as many) by the Matt Hayes videos, and we followed him as he changed his tactics to a more "modern" approach. These days he has been completely alienated by this type of fishing, if you visit his Youtube channel you will see he has gone back to proper fishing, for species variety and using much less gear.
I think for those who have been fishing at least 10-15 years, they may go through this realisation too. When it comes down to it, size really doesn't matter. When it's all said and done, I find myself having way more fun on a bank in the middle of the country side, catching Chub, Tench, Barbel, Roach, Perch, Rudd, Crucian Carp and Bream. Even the smaller F1s are arguably more fun than many of the big brutish Carp you get in syndicates where you are lucky if you get a few bites in a day and past a certain size they seem to stop fighting as much and just become dead weight.
The difficulty I have at the moment is finding waters that aren't just stocked to the brim full of Carp.
I completely agree with so many points said here. Into my late teens and early 20s I was heavily inspired (as many) by the Matt Hayes videos, and we followed him as he changed his tactics to a more "modern" approach. These days he has been completely alienated by this type of fishing, if you visit his Youtube channel you will see he has gone back to proper fishing, for species variety and using much less gear.
I think for those who have been fishing at least 10-15 years, they may go through this realisation too. When it comes down to it, size really doesn't matter. When it's all said and done, I find myself having way more fun on a bank in the middle of the country side, catching Chub, Tench, Barbel, Roach, Perch, Rudd, Crucian Carp and Bream. Even the smaller F1s are arguably more fun than many of the big brutish Carp you get in syndicates where you are lucky if you get a few bites in a day and past a certain size they seem to stop fighting as much and just become dead weight.
The difficulty I have at the moment is finding waters that aren't just stocked to the brim full of Carp.