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Current range of Daiwa reels (31 posts / 7,295 views)
junglist junglist
Posts: 861
Post #1 22 Dec 2023 05:46
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Hi

My current shimano baby big pits are probably coming to the end of their lifespan so I'm thinking of getting some new reels if there are any post Xmas bargains to be had

Not sure on the Castizm BRs, Emblem 35 SCW QD or Crosscast 35 SCW QD?

Appreciate they are different price ranges but I've read conflicting reviews on the Castizm BRs not being as good as the old QD versions and issues with line getting caught behind the spools of the Emblems

Any long term reviews?
RKB
Posts: 1,731
Post #2 22 Dec 2023 08:33
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I have used the Emblem 45 SCW's for a couple of seasons, I don't imagine there's a huge amount of difference between these and the 35's. The 45's are very smooth, the drag is excellent, they are light, and cast very well. I do have issues occasionally with line going behind the spool but that's fluro and I have been having a nightmare with it generally so perhaps not indicative of "normal" performance in that respect. I need another set of reels and am seriously considering the 35's myself.
stuart666 stuart666
Posts: 4,779
Post #3 22 Dec 2023 10:06
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Unfortunately daiwa keep discontinuing there best reels for some reason 🤷‍♂️
bentipping bentipping
Posts: 383
Post #4 22 Dec 2023 10:47
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In reply to Post #1
I have the Crosscast reels, great value at the £100/reel I paid and see AD have them for £85 currently which is incredible value. I really like them, seem solidly made as you would expect from Daiwa, quick drag is fast but still plenty of room to adjust tension.
For me they were a good compromise of cost/performance, they sit nicely in mid range and I didn't think worth the extra money to step up to the emblem.
Spod Spod
Posts: 13,415
Post #5 22 Dec 2023 14:41
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In reply to Post #3
Exactly that mate, why they keep on doing it is beyond me but there's never any obvious reason for some of the decisions....?

For example, the Castizm 25QD was/is a superb reel, (much better than the BR version that's for sure...) and they decided to replace it with the Whisker 25QD which in comparison is much inferior and it looks a cheap plastic effort as well.....

Yet the "classics" like the SS2600, Tourneys, Infinity X etc have been around for years and are still in production?

Odd
JasonM JasonM
Posts: 1,764
Post #6 22 Dec 2023 15:05
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In reply to Post #5
Fishing reel market is pretty big if you look at it worldwide (link below), I guess there are many market factors beyond our simple understanding as to why.

My guess it's all about maintaining market share by bringing out new models to keep the brand interest sticky (which has its own R&D costs) whilst maintaining a few older reels where there is still strong demand (added there are no new R&D costs - better margin business)

If they EOL'd (end of life) a lot of the old reels we'd all be complaining that they don't make then like they used to and perhaps start to look at other brands

https://straitsresearch.com/press-release/global-fishing-reels-market-report
stuart666 stuart666
Posts: 4,779
Post #7 22 Dec 2023 17:47
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In reply to Post #5
The whisker 25 is shocking compared to the castizm 25qd. Luckily i still have a few mint castizm. There biggest **** up was discontinuing to original iso. I still believe it to be the best carp reel ever made.
Churchy Churchy
Posts: 1,333
Post #8 22 Dec 2023 21:28
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In reply to Post #7
Hahaa... opinions are fantastic, I love my whisker 25's, didn't like the castizms at all and flogged my original ISO's after one seized up within an hour of use!

stuart666 stuart666
Posts: 4,779
Post #9 23 Dec 2023 00:35
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In reply to Post #8
You just have to watch the videos on youtube of the side by side comparison between the whisker and the castizm to see its an inferior reel. I was quite surprised at how bad the whiskers were as ive always been a daiwa fan. My mates just sold his whiskers as they two of them broke inside of 6 months. I can only go off my own findings and i had 5 isos for around 5 years and not one of them let me down. I even had one on my spod rod that got totally abused and still felt like new when i gave it to my mate.
Spod Spod
Posts: 13,415
Post #10 23 Dec 2023 07:39
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In reply to Post #9
Agree completely, the Whisker is miles off the level of the Castizm, like comparing chalk and cheese!
MrFrosty
Posts: 637
Post #11 23 Dec 2023 08:15
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I had cast'izms which i didn't really give a chance and now have the whiskers. Looking back the cast'izms did feel better quality, however i do prefer the colours of the whiskers the cast'ozm were too blingy. I really miss the theory 4000d's thought they were brilliant little reels. Have 2 on my scopes but trying to find a couple more for my barbel rods is proving tricky. Had original 5000t's which i wish id never sold, they were going strong at 15 years old and when serviced had the original metal internals, whereas all the newer ones were plastic and no where near as robust apparently.
Churchy Churchy
Posts: 1,333
Post #12 23 Dec 2023 08:52
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In reply to Post #9
Yeah I'd not dispute which looks more well built but my track record with top end reels means it's down to pure luck 🤣
You name them, I've broke them and I don't fish anywhere near as much as some people and I don't throw my kit around. Even so called ‘bombproof' SS3000's and Tourneys.
Ironically one of the only reels that never seized up or self destructed on me were my original Basias and they were made out of glass and paper!
junglist junglist
Posts: 861
Post #13 23 Dec 2023 09:18
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In reply to Post #12
So what is so bad about the Castizm BR?

Think I might go for the Emblems
JasonM JasonM
Posts: 1,764
Post #14 23 Dec 2023 13:04
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In reply to Post #13
Why not just get another set of ultegras ?
I'm still using the ones I purchased in 2006, maybe they were better built in that time.
stuart666 stuart666
Posts: 4,779
Post #15 23 Dec 2023 13:31
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In reply to Post #10
Its strange how the whisker is so bad compared to the castizm. You would of thought they would of used the same internals and just updated the colour. I personally hate all this all matt black faze and pefer the shiny bits on the castizm but im a bit old school and i still prefer shiny stainless pods and sticks.
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