The year is1980. Ted Rogers stands next to a table with a married couple in department store clothing. On the table a number of items are rejected by the two. Our Ted then links the item in the most obsecure way, through a number of extremely tenuous links to a prize. The couple look completely bemused. Over the last couple of years, when chatting with other anglers on the bank, I've sympathised with these contestants. My lakeside cohort have on many occasions lived out the most incredible underwater scenarios in their minds. There's no way to disprove them, and nor would I, but it's exasperating when they catch and believe they planned it all the time. Only recently a fellow member caught from a swim 3/4 of the way down a resser to the dam wall, about 1200m from the small inlet stream at the pointy end. He explained that warm water was flowing in, following an old stream bed (the water is at least 200yrs old and has never been drained) and causing carp to congregate in front of his peg.
In the latest underwater video by Korda, DF shows a similar type of behaviour and we are subjected to a dillusionary debrief from the man who once again looks out of his depth, even dropping a rig at seven wraps. Tom Dove, who is a very competent angler, makes no effect on him with his logic and experience. There's someone else on the gravy train with a teddy bear but surely now this has got to be the end of this painful series.
In the latest underwater video by Korda, DF shows a similar type of behaviour and we are subjected to a dillusionary debrief from the man who once again looks out of his depth, even dropping a rig at seven wraps. Tom Dove, who is a very competent angler, makes no effect on him with his logic and experience. There's someone else on the gravy train with a teddy bear but surely now this has got to be the end of this painful series.
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I dunno - I quite liked it - much shorter and less drawn out; still interesting watching fish 'react' even if it is to ye olde Almond Smoke (sales must be in decline)
I dunno - I quite liked it - much shorter and less drawn out; still interesting watching fish 'react' even if it is to ye olde Almond Smoke (sales must be in decline)
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Considering he is probably a millionaire form spouting all that drivel from the mugs that pay for it I bet he does not give a ****
Considering he is probably a millionaire form spouting all that drivel from the mugs that pay for it I bet he does not give a ****
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I bet looking at the old ones will raise some eyebrows today. The idea that carp can "suss a lead" and avoid it is laughable. Meanwhile, the bright pink object which mimics absolutely nothing in their environment gets sucked in and blown out three times.
We give them far too much credit at times.
I bet looking at the old ones will raise some eyebrows today. The idea that carp can "suss a lead" and avoid it is laughable. Meanwhile, the bright pink object which mimics absolutely nothing in their environment gets sucked in and blown out three times.
We give them far too much credit at times.
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Have to agree that we give them far too much credit , they are after all fish.
Have to agree that we give them far too much credit , they are after all fish.
I quite enjoyed it.
Someone once told me that I shouldn't move the lead when I tighten the line as it would make a line in the silt and the fish would suss the rig. I just laughed
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Moving the rig can potentially obscure the hookpoint . . .however without having a camera to check who actually knows?
The lack of ANY indication on the first failed take was arguably the most interesting bit - (presumably) a 3oz flat lead at 7 wraps fished on a slack line - a near 50 picks up the hookbait and lifts the lead with zero indication . . . .
Moving the rig can potentially obscure the hookpoint . . .however without having a camera to check who actually knows?
The lack of ANY indication on the first failed take was arguably the most interesting bit - (presumably) a 3oz flat lead at 7 wraps fished on a slack line - a near 50 picks up the hookbait and lifts the lead with zero indication . . . .
I actually found the film interesting, I agree that we give the carp too much credit, and I do agree with Dovey in a few circumstances, I don't think the fish avoided the bait, just didn't go for it.
However, as mentioned below the zero indication on I'm guessing a slack line was very interesting, the lead obviously moved to nothing on the indicator.
Also seeing how much food 1 singular carp consumed in seconds was interesting, as someone who quite often fishes for a 'bite at a time' it makes me wonder how often I'm sat behind zero bait and just a single hookbait, which can obviously still work but isn't what I think im using.
However, as mentioned below the zero indication on I'm guessing a slack line was very interesting, the lead obviously moved to nothing on the indicator.
Also seeing how much food 1 singular carp consumed in seconds was interesting, as someone who quite often fishes for a 'bite at a time' it makes me wonder how often I'm sat behind zero bait and just a single hookbait, which can obviously still work but isn't what I think im using.
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I don't often like human analogies, but at the end of the day we all like food, and if there was a large table with just a Malteser on it, we may not even see it's there if we're just walking through the room. On the other hand, if you fill the whole table with Maltesers we'll notice straight away, we may even smell the chocolate itsself. Depending on our level of hunger, we may smash the lot, on other occasions we may take one or two.
Those fish are either wary of beds of bait as some reckon, or they just don't want to feed at that time.
We talk about bite times, we talk about being scared of big beds of bait, we talk about fishing singles then we talk about piling it in. I've absolutely hammered waters on large beds of particles whilst others caught less on small PVA traps. They may think because they've had 3 on small traps, you cannot catch 6 on big beds of bait because they've either A) not persevered with it or B) they're using it at the wrong time of year, or in the wrong situation.
You cannot create a competitive feeding situation with just a single fluro with a bit of roach food around it to protect the hookbait.
Ultimately, I think there's no right or wrong.
I don't often like human analogies, but at the end of the day we all like food, and if there was a large table with just a Malteser on it, we may not even see it's there if we're just walking through the room. On the other hand, if you fill the whole table with Maltesers we'll notice straight away, we may even smell the chocolate itsself. Depending on our level of hunger, we may smash the lot, on other occasions we may take one or two.
Those fish are either wary of beds of bait as some reckon, or they just don't want to feed at that time.
We talk about bite times, we talk about being scared of big beds of bait, we talk about fishing singles then we talk about piling it in. I've absolutely hammered waters on large beds of particles whilst others caught less on small PVA traps. They may think because they've had 3 on small traps, you cannot catch 6 on big beds of bait because they've either A) not persevered with it or B) they're using it at the wrong time of year, or in the wrong situation.
You cannot create a competitive feeding situation with just a single fluro with a bit of roach food around it to protect the hookbait.
Ultimately, I think there's no right or wrong.
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Hold on a minute, just how big is this Malteser?
Hold on a minute, just how big is this Malteser?
Rob Hughes did some really interesting underwater tests on lead and line lay. Based on this, and that it was slack or even semi slack its no surprise there was no indication, especially because the lead lifted vertically a few inches.
I do agree that its unlikely that it 'sussed' the hookbait, but be it a sales tactic or not, its hard to avoid the direct route the carp took to the pink hookbait, in comparison to the other times it fed on the free offerings, when it was grazing. But we all know a bright one can and does work at times, perhaps just because they are curious creatures and the mouth is the only way of 'testing' something.
I do agree that its unlikely that it 'sussed' the hookbait, but be it a sales tactic or not, its hard to avoid the direct route the carp took to the pink hookbait, in comparison to the other times it fed on the free offerings, when it was grazing. But we all know a bright one can and does work at times, perhaps just because they are curious creatures and the mouth is the only way of 'testing' something.
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Didn't really take anything away from the Korda underwater vid. Apart from a reminder how wrong a popup rig looks over crumb and particles.
Oh, and the awkward laughing at the bosses jokes.
Didn't really take anything away from the Korda underwater vid. Apart from a reminder how wrong a popup rig looks over crumb and particles.
Oh, and the awkward laughing at the bosses jokes.
Well I liked it. Given a straight up choice between that for an hour or love island then it's Korda all day long for me. I found it quite entertaining and learnt nothing.