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Heater bivvy death (40 posts / 9,265 views)
Spike Spike
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Post #1 3 Dec 2022 20:30
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Just read there's been another bivvy heater death. Very sad situation. Wish people would learn. Either take the appropriate clothing and sleeping bag or stay home. It's a hobby and is meant to be enjoyed. No one's life is worth a carp
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #2 3 Dec 2022 20:40
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I can't see anything online
Spike Spike
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Post #3 3 Dec 2022 20:52
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Seen les bowers and Nigel sharp mention it on Instagram. Young family man known by them both.
Greybeard54
Posts: 310
Post #4 3 Dec 2022 21:06
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tragic. but they are all over ebay, carbon monoxide is a known killer, but people are paying stupid prices for them, often twice the price of a decent thermal suit.
maybe thats why a well known brand discontinued them.
yonny yonny
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Post #5 3 Dec 2022 21:17
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Savage news, and an easily avoidable situation. RIP to the fella.
framey framey
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Post #6 3 Dec 2022 22:05
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Such a waste of life and a life changing event for the whole family
Canalcarper71 Canalcarper71
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Post #7 3 Dec 2022 22:07
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Such a shame hearing news like this I'm fishing right now till tomorrow morning(got here Friday afternoon) and would never dream of shutting door of my shelter if you've not got the right kit don't go fishing.
A water bottle cost pence really,is it worth losing your life
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #8 3 Dec 2022 22:08
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Les Bowers

This is probably one of, if not, the most important posts I'll ever make on here.
Tonight I found out a friend passed. He fell asleep whilst fishing. Unfortunately he fell asleep with heater on in the bivvy. He never woke 😢
Please please, as winter and the colder nights/days set in, ‘DONT' have heaters on in the bivvy or any enclosed space without the door open. It only takes for you to fall asleep or even having it on too long, for a tragic accident to happen. I don't want to hear of this happening to anyone else.
If you're that cold, get in the sleeping bag with a hot water bottle or stay home. Don't don't don't take chances with it.
Paul Bacon has put up some very informative videos on his Facebook of tests he did with a few different heaters in his bivvy and a carbon monoxide alarm. You'd be very very surprised how quickly you'd be overcome with the fumes!
I'm so gutted and sad that this has happened to someone I know. Such a kind and lovely bloke with a young family.
Please please please, take care whilst out on the bank. And keep that door wide open!!! X
Please share far and wide. If it saves one persons life, it's done it's job x
scott88m14
Posts: 93
Post #9 3 Dec 2022 23:24
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Within the last week I've seen two popular carp anglers post on their social media pages videos of them using heaters in their bivvys.
They both did advise to using them for short periods of time and only when very well ventilated and to never fall asleep with them on.

It may sound silly but to anyone that ever does use one of these maybe make a rule to yourself to only using one when sitting up. ( In a well ventilated place )
Just as it can be so easy to drift off to sleep when laying down and getting cosy.

Personally i have the gas, kettle and stove just outside the door when making a brew and that's whilst fishing with an open fronted bivvy. Just a habit I got into.


Proper clothing and sleeping bag is definitely the best and safest option.
nickfisherman
Posts: 342
Post #10 4 Dec 2022 00:10
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How awful.

Bivvie heaters should be banned imo.
scozza
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Post #11 4 Dec 2022 07:06
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Terrible news, tragic really

Ban them, another “must have” item that's fashionable that we don't really need

Far too easy to drop to sleep with one on, let's face it a lot of the time we are cat napping. As mentioned a good base layer of thermals and a decent bag there is no need

When I used to fish winter nights it was a 5 minute blast of the stove when I got up whilst making a brew, that's it. Put your day gear on, job done. There some great winter clothing options around now too puffa jackets etc.

Berghuas balaclava, highly recommend for nights

Mentioned it before, we once had to pack one lad up, brought hardly any gear, sat shivering to death. Use an old hold-all, keep it in the car and keep additional and spare clothes in it
Hudson Hudson
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Post #12 4 Dec 2022 08:26
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Tragic.

In my youth when I didn't know the dangers of them I used one without the door open. Now I don't know how close to a problem I was but It wasn't a good scenario although it was an indicator of the dangers of them to me. It was daytime in February time, I'd laid down but not to sleep just to chill but stared dozing off, I got all groggy and lightheaded and had to put my head out the door. I hadn't fell Asleep but i nearly had and I wasn't meant to. Gave me a banging headache after that.

Like everyone's saying. Don't go if you can't take the proper stuff. And this day and age it's easier than ever. We have affordable high performance thermal clothing. Heated jackets, heated blankets, Heated base layers and heated insoles for your shoes. My heater has been fully retired.

As a minimum all of these heaters should have a little timer on them. Such a simple solution.
rodrest rodrest
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Post #13 4 Dec 2022 08:34
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That's a great idea and would probably save lives 👍
Richpp1989 Richpp1989
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Post #14 4 Dec 2022 09:21
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What a terrible thing to happen!

Take the right gear and if you still can't handle it just stay at home it's just not worth it, it's never worth your life it's a hobby

Last week Darryl peck actually put a video up on Facebook saying the stove was a game charger to warm you up, he had his door shut! He has taken it down now because ALOT of people was pulling him up on it and saying how dangerous it was!
darkoL darkoL
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Post #15 4 Dec 2022 09:46
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Proper bivvy heaters like seven oaks and similar have inbuild co protections, meaning they turn off if o2 level drops to much. Problem is when people use stoves, industrial heaters or even cobbs in their closed down bivvies. Should we than ban all stoves? For sure not but more should be done to educate people on dangers! Accidents do happen unfortunately in every aspect of lives.
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