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Fish Oils (31 posts / 4,397 views)
Carplord
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Post #1 8 Apr 2022 20:31
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Is it ok to start using fish oils early spring? Thinking salmon and shrimp oils glazed over baits or injected in to bags. Or is it still a little early in the year?
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #2 8 Apr 2022 21:37
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In reply to Post #1
Depends entirely on the water temperature of your lake, it's totally worth getting a little reader, I think Reuben Heaton do one you can flick out as well?

I tend to start adding in to my hemp oil gradually but it never goes above 50-50 just because I think hemp oil in fantastic in the warmer months too.
Carplord
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Post #3 8 Apr 2022 22:00
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In reply to Post #2
Yeh hemp oil is one of my favorties. What do you think about glugging boilies in oil generally? Do you think that you are doing yourself a disservice due to stopping the solubility of the baits? Im thinking doing half of your sessions baits in oil, and half out the bag or with a hydro gives you the best of both worlds.
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #4 8 Apr 2022 22:37
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I think oils have there place, but I will never soak baits purely in oil, I always add oil to my hydros for personal fishing as it brings it up in the water column.

Fats in my world are purely on a carrying function, what it carries, is once it's boy of more interest to the fish. Think of it as the bag the takeaway comes in. Oil droplets combined with hydros rise to the surface and disperse under the surface tension, releasing the heavy hydro elements to sink back down to the bottom gradually.

It's weather dependant but a massive edge when everyone is keeping heavy hydros and bottom baits stuck to the bottom.

You could do worse than go to your fishing shed / room and cut all your hydros with 15% hemp oil to be honest.


If fishing fairly shallow lakes and the fish are definately moving around on the bottom then I will omit the oil completely.
MARKerz
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Post #5 9 Apr 2022 14:28
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In reply to Post #1
Might be worth leaving the Fish Oils until it warms up a bit.
2ndChance 2ndChance
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Post #6 9 Apr 2022 20:42
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In reply to Post #5
Anyone got data on degree of rancidity vs time/storage, for various oils ? Been using MCT C8, but probably move over to salmon or hemp.
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #7 10 Apr 2022 23:16
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In reply to Post #6
For hemp, a lot of larger firms are using a technical grade which is very rancid and not meant to go into feed I don't think.

I get spec sheets with mine so can't really help but if worried source a version bottled for humans and go by the dates on it.

With salmon oil bacarel will have best before and is usually decent product ( as most things from there ).

frothey frothey
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Post #8 11 Apr 2022 06:50
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In reply to Post #7
Which larger firms are these? They should be outed if they are putting rancid oils out there that can risk damage to the ecosystem. People need to know so they can steer clear.
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
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Post #9 11 Apr 2022 07:37
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In reply to Post #1
Shrimp oil?
I only ever found one source for this in the States. It was expensive and wasn't much cop. As Mozzi said, for salmon, Bacarel if you want the Scandinavian stuff, or choose a top quality pet food one if you prefer Scottish Salmon oil. Very different tastes/smells.
The_Saint The_Saint
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Post #10 11 Apr 2022 08:59
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In reply to Post #7
bacarel products are
their salmon oil is very light and smells great like all their products
jhhilton1983 jhhilton1983
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Post #11 11 Apr 2022 09:52
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In reply to Post #6
Look at what makes oil rancid:-
Light, Oxygen, Moisture, Bacteria (although unlikely)

Keep it in a airtight container, (squeeze out any excess air if partially filled) and store in a cool dark place. Will last well beyond its BBE... remember oils are genuinely effective preservatives so naturally will last a long time in optimum conditions.
Mozzi Mozzi
Posts: 1,900
Post #12 12 Apr 2022 03:01
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In reply to Post #8
Last time I named firms you criticised me, and recently mentioned me on the A baits page which I've had 4 separate people inbox me laughing about. 4 people who adore my baits despite you claiming I don't know anything about bait. 3 of these people who switched to my baits from your friends. ( and me and him get on fine as it happens ). I'll refrain from taking up your suggestions as I find your attitude to be quite hypocritical. have a good week
frothey frothey
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Post #13 12 Apr 2022 11:04
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In reply to Post #12
I'm glad I keep your inbox busy and you amused. It's good to laugh, and if it validates your feelings of self worth, then happy days.

I don't think you've ever been criticised for naming anyone when you've given real proof (rather than “I think” or “I'm sure”), it's the wide casting of aspersions that you won't back up, or using the “it's common knowledge that......” that gets on peoples tits. If you stick your head above the parapet, don't be surprised if people take a shot at you.

However, supplying rancid oils goes a bit beyond the normal, as it has a negative effect on the ecosystem and fish so if you are sure and have evidence the finger should be pointed.....

Anywho, back on track...
bluebeat13
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Post #14 12 Apr 2022 11:21
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In reply to Post #9
RG Baits do a Hot Shrimp Oil. Never used it and not sure how it's put together though.
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #15 12 Apr 2022 13:01
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In reply to Post #13
When I say “it's common knowledge” I don't mean common knowledge to people outside of the industry on a forum I mean people within the industry.

You only use a couple of forms and certainly seem too busy brown nosing a couple of people to realise what goes on elsewhere 😂
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