Right, So....Goo
I have sat on the fence with this one for a few years now. Not something I have used much of and when I have I can't say its made a huge difference.
Thats not to say it doesn't work
So......who has used it successfully? What flavours have you done well on and how did you apply it?
A totally open minded post so all views and opinions welcome
I have sat on the fence with this one for a few years now. Not something I have used much of and when I have I can't say its made a huge difference.
Thats not to say it doesn't work
So......who has used it successfully? What flavours have you done well on and how did you apply it?
A totally open minded post so all views and opinions welcome
In reply to Post #1
I dabbled with it in the past - only for coating hookbaits.
I found it very water specific... as in it worked on some waters well and other it just blew big time.
Almond & Squid were the two best performers for me.
I dabbled with it in the past - only for coating hookbaits.
I found it very water specific... as in it worked on some waters well and other it just blew big time.
Almond & Squid were the two best performers for me.
I came back to carp angling after 10 years in 2020 and Goo was one of the things I had read about extensively so I bought a few different bottles. I experimented and fished with one goo'd up bait and one without and honestly I have had so many more bites on the non goo bait. The only real success I have had is putting the Scopex smoke on solid bags and had bites that way.
I'm not saying it doesnt work, I'm sure it does but I don't think its the game changer many have pushed it to be. Lets put it this way, I know of more than one person at Korda who wont let it near their hookbait. Read into that what you will.
I'm not saying it doesnt work, I'm sure it does but I don't think its the game changer many have pushed it to be. Lets put it this way, I know of more than one person at Korda who wont let it near their hookbait. Read into that what you will.
In reply to Post #3
After seeing a group of fish literally spook of it in the margin my bottle went in the bin.
Like others have said no doubt it works on some waters but not for me
After seeing a group of fish literally spook of it in the margin my bottle went in the bin.
Like others have said no doubt it works on some waters but not for me
I copied the Korda boys and have used the following combinations:
Spuid Supreme Goo and Mainline Milky Toffee popups (pink popups after adding Goo). That has been a very good combination. Caught from different waters and have had bites soon after casting out.
Pineapple Supreme Goo and Mainline Essential IB popups(yellow popups after adding Goo). They have also done well like the squids.
White Almond or Wonderberry on Mainline Milky Toffee popups (White popups aften adding Goo). I haven't been doing as well on these as on the pineapples and the squids, but in all fairness I have used the pink and yellow ones a lot more.
I know it's not very original to just follow the trends and use what's being plugged in the commercials, but I can't complain about the results on the pink and yellow combinations. I'm not saying that they are wonder baits, but put on the right spot they will catch you fish. Do they catch because of the Goo, the colour or the flavour? I really don't know.
I haven't used the Goo on bags or in spod mixes.
Spuid Supreme Goo and Mainline Milky Toffee popups (pink popups after adding Goo). That has been a very good combination. Caught from different waters and have had bites soon after casting out.
Pineapple Supreme Goo and Mainline Essential IB popups(yellow popups after adding Goo). They have also done well like the squids.
White Almond or Wonderberry on Mainline Milky Toffee popups (White popups aften adding Goo). I haven't been doing as well on these as on the pineapples and the squids, but in all fairness I have used the pink and yellow ones a lot more.
I know it's not very original to just follow the trends and use what's being plugged in the commercials, but I can't complain about the results on the pink and yellow combinations. I'm not saying that they are wonder baits, but put on the right spot they will catch you fish. Do they catch because of the Goo, the colour or the flavour? I really don't know.
I haven't used the Goo on bags or in spod mixes.
In reply to Post #1
I'll try and answer this without certain members jumping on my every post....
The original goo formulations were based on well known recipes from South African match carp fishing, there's a lot available online regarding their composition.
Do they work? Well, some of the goos do an effective job on dying baits a different colour, and I do believe that you can visually stimulate carp. So the fact it opens up a potentially wider array of the colour spectrum is, logically, an advantage.
However there is many cheaper ways to do it.
With regards to fish attraction / feed stimulation, my thoughts are as follows
To stimulate carp into a feeding situation via taste in the water column, which is what there's things are claiming to do, you need one thing above all else and that is a recognisable food signal. For carp, this is largely dominated by free form amino acids, however, not completely dominated. I believe personally that through evolution most wild things develop a sensory proclivity towards common indicators in their food, be that certain bacteria, fats etc and I personally think you can really capitalise on these in certain situations. For example, high mineral content baits on spring, animals know what they need be it stored energy for winter or pre spawning etc and I believe at these times are more susceptible to strong food signals.
In this regard I don't personally believe goo is something which will perform for you. Having said that, it seems to work a lot on high stock match type venues, but typically these venues, and I say this with respect to them, do not have the appropriate biomass levels to sustain growth / promote those instincts to find nnutrients and I believe the feeding habits are more behavioural and reliant on anglers baits. Especially with match tactics never really geared toward the fish getting much of a feed, they may only get ten kilos of carp pellets to several tonnes of fish over a weekend of matches and as anyone who's studied carp knows that's far below optimum feed intake, essentially keeping them perpetually hungry. I will not claim to known the function such liquids have on fish in those particular conditions.
In a more concise way I believe the cheaper options out there are probably just as good as tge premium in terms of offering a visual aspect to bait, in terms of feed inducing, it would appear negligible.
I'll try and answer this without certain members jumping on my every post....
The original goo formulations were based on well known recipes from South African match carp fishing, there's a lot available online regarding their composition.
Do they work? Well, some of the goos do an effective job on dying baits a different colour, and I do believe that you can visually stimulate carp. So the fact it opens up a potentially wider array of the colour spectrum is, logically, an advantage.
However there is many cheaper ways to do it.
With regards to fish attraction / feed stimulation, my thoughts are as follows
To stimulate carp into a feeding situation via taste in the water column, which is what there's things are claiming to do, you need one thing above all else and that is a recognisable food signal. For carp, this is largely dominated by free form amino acids, however, not completely dominated. I believe personally that through evolution most wild things develop a sensory proclivity towards common indicators in their food, be that certain bacteria, fats etc and I personally think you can really capitalise on these in certain situations. For example, high mineral content baits on spring, animals know what they need be it stored energy for winter or pre spawning etc and I believe at these times are more susceptible to strong food signals.
In this regard I don't personally believe goo is something which will perform for you. Having said that, it seems to work a lot on high stock match type venues, but typically these venues, and I say this with respect to them, do not have the appropriate biomass levels to sustain growth / promote those instincts to find nnutrients and I believe the feeding habits are more behavioural and reliant on anglers baits. Especially with match tactics never really geared toward the fish getting much of a feed, they may only get ten kilos of carp pellets to several tonnes of fish over a weekend of matches and as anyone who's studied carp knows that's far below optimum feed intake, essentially keeping them perpetually hungry. I will not claim to known the function such liquids have on fish in those particular conditions.
In a more concise way I believe the cheaper options out there are probably just as good as tge premium in terms of offering a visual aspect to bait, in terms of feed inducing, it would appear negligible.
In reply to Post #6
I've used the goo before and never had confidence in it which I mean for the price as well I won't be buying it again,I have more confidence in getting liquid food signals to the bottom of a lake/canal by glugging a pva bag with a good quality thick liquid and some oils in the bag via a syringe or one of those dynamite oils with a good nozzle and let it do it's stuff when sitting out in the depths
I've used the goo before and never had confidence in it which I mean for the price as well I won't be buying it again,I have more confidence in getting liquid food signals to the bottom of a lake/canal by glugging a pva bag with a good quality thick liquid and some oils in the bag via a syringe or one of those dynamite oils with a good nozzle and let it do it's stuff when sitting out in the depths
side by side i didn't personally see difference.
but i have seen a difference when i rolled 2 batches of pop ups, one with goo and one with a hydro.
the hydro outfished the goo tenfold.
but i have seen a difference when i rolled 2 batches of pop ups, one with goo and one with a hydro.
the hydro outfished the goo tenfold.
In reply to Post #1
I may be in the minority here, but I don't really use added liquids in my fishing at all, and I do just fine
Good quality boilie, particles and pellets used in different combinations, I sometimes add salt, and will often fish maggot in the winter but that's about it.
I may be in the minority here, but I don't really use added liquids in my fishing at all, and I do just fine
Good quality boilie, particles and pellets used in different combinations, I sometimes add salt, and will often fish maggot in the winter but that's about it.
In reply to Post #9
Good quality baits will already contain them but I totally get your approach of not over complicating things, I think personally where they work is being able to increase the food signals without increasing the free offerings, which in some circumstances can be beneficial, or as has already been stated, an oil to take advantage of different water depths.
Speaking of salt, a high salinity solution can be a really good way of adding it
Good quality baits will already contain them but I totally get your approach of not over complicating things, I think personally where they work is being able to increase the food signals without increasing the free offerings, which in some circumstances can be beneficial, or as has already been stated, an oil to take advantage of different water depths.
Speaking of salt, a high salinity solution can be a really good way of adding it
In reply to Post #9
When I used to eel fish I was always plagued by carp when using lobworms . Sometimes whilst the carp anglers couldn't buy a bite .
I've also caught a lot of carp in excess of 20lb on Roach and lamprey sections
When I used to eel fish I was always plagued by carp when using lobworms . Sometimes whilst the carp anglers couldn't buy a bite .
I've also caught a lot of carp in excess of 20lb on Roach and lamprey sections
In reply to Post #11
The good old worm! A few years ago I fished a small 1 acre lake, once I'd joined the lad who ran told me the bait to use, needed to be popped up and a withy rig, he also told me most of the silvers had been removed.
I only blanked once that year fishing days only using you hair rigged worms, probably caught half the fish in there!
The good old worm! A few years ago I fished a small 1 acre lake, once I'd joined the lad who ran told me the bait to use, needed to be popped up and a withy rig, he also told me most of the silvers had been removed.
I only blanked once that year fishing days only using you hair rigged worms, probably caught half the fish in there!
Some super interesting replies here!
I have bought some garlic goo to give it a try on some pop ups. I'll be fishing it over ABS GNZ (Garlic Enzyme) I'm skeptical as I have never really given any goo a fair test.
I have heard of people having success on the squid goo before and that defo takes my interest as well!
I guess its the case with anything in carp fishing, it is whatever gives you confidence when sitting behind your rods
I'll certainly be interested to see how this bait works against a hardened hookbait straight from the pot!
I have bought some garlic goo to give it a try on some pop ups. I'll be fishing it over ABS GNZ (Garlic Enzyme) I'm skeptical as I have never really given any goo a fair test.
I have heard of people having success on the squid goo before and that defo takes my interest as well!
I guess its the case with anything in carp fishing, it is whatever gives you confidence when sitting behind your rods
I'll certainly be interested to see how this bait works against a hardened hookbait straight from the pot!
In reply to Post #13
I follow mozzi on this one. The color of the goo is a huge factor.
It gives your bait a visual aspect compared to the freebies.
In addition, there are better liquids than goo to boost the attraction level of baits.
In the past, I've talked to some match anglers who also were doing tests with goo. They found the only gne giving them an edge was wonderberry. Once they tried to figure out why, they concludd the sweeteners used in the goo was the edge. So, they stopped using go and used pure sweetener and didn't look back.
I follow mozzi on this one. The color of the goo is a huge factor.
It gives your bait a visual aspect compared to the freebies.
In addition, there are better liquids than goo to boost the attraction level of baits.
In the past, I've talked to some match anglers who also were doing tests with goo. They found the only gne giving them an edge was wonderberry. Once they tried to figure out why, they concludd the sweeteners used in the goo was the edge. So, they stopped using go and used pure sweetener and didn't look back.
I have played with various liquids on bait, glugs, soaks, Goo and Crafty Catcher liquids.
Firstly I wasn't sure about Goo ingredients as fluorescein seemed to appear in blurbs about it. While fluorescein is on the WHO list of Essential Medicines, it is used as a 'tracer', to find tears, holes etc, exactly as it is used in water courses and oil industry. However fluorescein has high adverse reactions in humans.
When it came to fishing with a good bait soak of known liquid foods, Crafty liquids and Goo on bait I fished both an individual bait and over groundbait, so it had a fair chance. I also used Goo and Crafty liquids on pike deadbaits on one water.
For carp on overstocked waters, where natural food may be limited, the liquids of all types provoked reactions and takes far faster than un-liquid covered baits, boilies, maggots, pellets or corn.
In richer waters where carp were not bait reliant, the Goo and Crafty liquids had no advantage. At times the clouding actually provoked a repelling reaction. However, the natural food liquids could provoke a positive reaction, increased interest.
For the pike fishing, on one lake usual deadbaits were treated very circumspect. Effectively the lake was being overfishing, and there were no hookable takes on mackeral, bluey, herring or smelt.
Deadbaits were covered in Squid Goo being as it is red.
Nothing positive.
Crafty Catcher had a red betaine liquid which did get Interest when poured or painted on half blueys (either end). The liquid did appear to be oil based.
Firstly I wasn't sure about Goo ingredients as fluorescein seemed to appear in blurbs about it. While fluorescein is on the WHO list of Essential Medicines, it is used as a 'tracer', to find tears, holes etc, exactly as it is used in water courses and oil industry. However fluorescein has high adverse reactions in humans.
When it came to fishing with a good bait soak of known liquid foods, Crafty liquids and Goo on bait I fished both an individual bait and over groundbait, so it had a fair chance. I also used Goo and Crafty liquids on pike deadbaits on one water.
For carp on overstocked waters, where natural food may be limited, the liquids of all types provoked reactions and takes far faster than un-liquid covered baits, boilies, maggots, pellets or corn.
In richer waters where carp were not bait reliant, the Goo and Crafty liquids had no advantage. At times the clouding actually provoked a repelling reaction. However, the natural food liquids could provoke a positive reaction, increased interest.
For the pike fishing, on one lake usual deadbaits were treated very circumspect. Effectively the lake was being overfishing, and there were no hookable takes on mackeral, bluey, herring or smelt.
Deadbaits were covered in Squid Goo being as it is red.
Nothing positive.
Crafty Catcher had a red betaine liquid which did get Interest when poured or painted on half blueys (either end). The liquid did appear to be oil based.