Just been reading the Martin gay story I remember it all those years ago,Martin well respected and experienced,angler never come across as a story teller etc was adamant he caught these fish in the uk even though he admitted to being in Canada a while before.
Respected anglers like Chris Yates believe he caught them here in the uk some said he said he caught them in the uk even though they were from Canada out of spite to a magazine editor or something,another side to the story was a guy has confirmed that he was living in Canada when he was talking to his neighbour and all the fishing came up and he offered to take his neighbour's son with him and it all came out that his uncle gd been over from uk and walked round a lake in Ontario and saw some massive carp and went to tackle shop and went back and caught them,his name......Martin gay.
My question of all this are there fish that haven't been caught yet or places that hold monster carp that haven't been fished yet this has facinated me since I was a kid bought up with redmire giants etc.
He's the link I was reading
http://www.fishingmagic.com/news_events/headlines/18083-martin-gay-s-50lb-english-common-carp-closure.html
Respected anglers like Chris Yates believe he caught them here in the uk some said he said he caught them in the uk even though they were from Canada out of spite to a magazine editor or something,another side to the story was a guy has confirmed that he was living in Canada when he was talking to his neighbour and all the fishing came up and he offered to take his neighbour's son with him and it all came out that his uncle gd been over from uk and walked round a lake in Ontario and saw some massive carp and went to tackle shop and went back and caught them,his name......Martin gay.
My question of all this are there fish that haven't been caught yet or places that hold monster carp that haven't been fished yet this has facinated me since I was a kid bought up with redmire giants etc.
He's the link I was reading
http://www.fishingmagic.com/news_events/headlines/18083-martin-gay-s-50lb-english-common-carp-closure.html
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I think there are actually quite a few lakes which still hold quite abit of mystery in terms of what lies beneath. I dont believe there are many lakes left that haven't seen an angler at some point wet a line in them. I know of a couple of lakes that see very little angling pressure, but history and location suggests there could well be a few lumps swimming around in them.
I think there are actually quite a few lakes which still hold quite abit of mystery in terms of what lies beneath. I dont believe there are many lakes left that haven't seen an angler at some point wet a line in them. I know of a couple of lakes that see very little angling pressure, but history and location suggests there could well be a few lumps swimming around in them.
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Rutland water
Rutland water
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There's a few in grafham aswell
There's a few in grafham aswell
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When I worked for go outdoors I travelled the country setting their new fishing departments up and worked in the Colchester one for 2 weeks I heard ardleigh rezzie had some big big ones in and also I worked in Bedford and stayed at the premier inn there and it was by the side of a massive lane that was suppose to have a 40 or 2 in there.
I also heard of a 42 being moved from a burton club water a few years ago and put in a pit by me
When I worked for go outdoors I travelled the country setting their new fishing departments up and worked in the Colchester one for 2 weeks I heard ardleigh rezzie had some big big ones in and also I worked in Bedford and stayed at the premier inn there and it was by the side of a massive lane that was suppose to have a 40 or 2 in there.
I also heard of a 42 being moved from a burton club water a few years ago and put in a pit by me
Plenty in windermere
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What a challenge that would be. Who's to say if there aren't some big ones in there too.
What a challenge that would be. Who's to say if there aren't some big ones in there too.
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Lot of places that aren't fished and been left to nature to go wild by the owners. Many ignored by modern carp anglers because they are so wild and fishing would involve wading through swomp to a rat hole fishing one rod for very old doubles with the odd twenty plus if lucky. Many of these type places the fish can be caught fishing for a few hours if the effort is put in to pre bait regularly to get them feeding confidently.
Lot of places that aren't fished and been left to nature to go wild by the owners. Many ignored by modern carp anglers because they are so wild and fishing would involve wading through swomp to a rat hole fishing one rod for very old doubles with the odd twenty plus if lucky. Many of these type places the fish can be caught fishing for a few hours if the effort is put in to pre bait regularly to get them feeding confidently.
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I've read the correspondence between Martin and another well known carper. Martin doesn't name the water but did,IIRC state the county was Essex. There's a lot more to this than meets the eye and I've spoken to the carper who lent me the letters. He feels they were Canadian, I'm in the opposite camp. Martins words make perfect sense..
I've read the correspondence between Martin and another well known carper. Martin doesn't name the water but did,IIRC state the county was Essex. There's a lot more to this than meets the eye and I've spoken to the carper who lent me the letters. He feels they were Canadian, I'm in the opposite camp. Martins words make perfect sense..
A few years back one of my best mates secured the rights for six of us to fish an estate lake in the grounds of a hotel for a year. The estate manager/game keeper said he thought it had been about thirty years since it was last fished. I think between us we had about 80 fish that year. Became a nightmare in the end. Got very political and came to an end. We definitely never caught everything that was in there.
I've heard a tale of a water that's own by a Hollywood actress. It's in the grounds of her estate. I know a guy that was fishing it. Again it was only a shot term thing. That did two different 50s to a guy in one night. Fishings now stopped on there again.
I've heard a tale of a water that's own by a Hollywood actress. It's in the grounds of her estate. I know a guy that was fishing it. Again it was only a shot term thing. That did two different 50s to a guy in one night. Fishings now stopped on there again.
I think they exist even in lakes that regularly get fished.
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My question of all this are there fish that haven't been caught yet or places that hold monster carp that haven't been fished yet this has facinated me since I was a kid bought up with redmire giants etc.
One of the things that really makes me tick, a water that's relatively unknown and the fish in it. Sadly with the popularity of the pastime at the moment I bet most places have seen a line or two
Unless you find a special smaller water I would be looking at vast sheets of untampered water where people come and dabble for a session or two and go home with their tails between their legs when the harsh reality of unknown stocks or a handful of fish in say 100 plus acres. The rewards are there though if you put the effort in
Over the years I've had the pleasure of fishing a few and still do but around me they seem to hold lots of stunted commons, the main thing is though, they are survivors, amazing
A lot has to be said for the water too, for example, busy park lakes, no night fishing and actually getting your gear to them, there are a few reasons why people are put off fishing them too. I know a golf course with a decent sized water on it and I have seen carp in it, I would love a dabble but getting the gear there would be something else! The next challenge is hiding yourself, and the thought of stood out in the water trying to net a fish, well
The only good news nowadays about having over stocked fish ponds with massive fish for me, it filters and keeps the knobs away
My question of all this are there fish that haven't been caught yet or places that hold monster carp that haven't been fished yet this has facinated me since I was a kid bought up with redmire giants etc.
One of the things that really makes me tick, a water that's relatively unknown and the fish in it. Sadly with the popularity of the pastime at the moment I bet most places have seen a line or two
Unless you find a special smaller water I would be looking at vast sheets of untampered water where people come and dabble for a session or two and go home with their tails between their legs when the harsh reality of unknown stocks or a handful of fish in say 100 plus acres. The rewards are there though if you put the effort in
Over the years I've had the pleasure of fishing a few and still do but around me they seem to hold lots of stunted commons, the main thing is though, they are survivors, amazing
A lot has to be said for the water too, for example, busy park lakes, no night fishing and actually getting your gear to them, there are a few reasons why people are put off fishing them too. I know a golf course with a decent sized water on it and I have seen carp in it, I would love a dabble but getting the gear there would be something else! The next challenge is hiding yourself, and the thought of stood out in the water trying to net a fish, well
The only good news nowadays about having over stocked fish ponds with massive fish for me, it filters and keeps the knobs away
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I think most of the big trout reservoirs hold a few surprises. I heard a few rumours about some very big carp in another midlands reservoir.
I think most of the big trout reservoirs hold a few surprises. I heard a few rumours about some very big carp in another midlands reservoir.
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Big water in Essex, Abberton reservoir...
That has thrown up some monster fish of various species, bream to British Record, some of which got into the Stour.
Uncaught fish, most definitely and in regularly fished lakes.
You can watch them at spawning times and see fish that have never been on the bank going for it.
I'm 100% that there are uncaught fish in Alton Water, Ardleigh and my syndicate lake.
Big water in Essex, Abberton reservoir...
That has thrown up some monster fish of various species, bream to British Record, some of which got into the Stour.
Uncaught fish, most definitely and in regularly fished lakes.
You can watch them at spawning times and see fish that have never been on the bank going for it.
I'm 100% that there are uncaught fish in Alton Water, Ardleigh and my syndicate lake.
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My thoughts too
Huge, deep, not hammered by carp anglers every week
Must be some in there.
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Unless the monster pike have eaten them of course
My thoughts too
Huge, deep, not hammered by carp anglers every week
Must be some in there.
....
Unless the monster pike have eaten them of course