Hi guys, I created this topic for those who do short sessions, but prefer to fish with boilies for some reason.
50/50 mix with rich liquid part? 50/50 mix with many soluble elements? liquid part made up of thin liquids that come out of boilies quickly? very rough mix with fast leakage?
If you fish in short sessions, you are welcome to post a quick attraction recipe (boilies) or ingredients that offer advantages in such a session.
Cheers !
50/50 mix with rich liquid part? 50/50 mix with many soluble elements? liquid part made up of thin liquids that come out of boilies quickly? very rough mix with fast leakage?
If you fish in short sessions, you are welcome to post a quick attraction recipe (boilies) or ingredients that offer advantages in such a session.
Cheers !
In reply to Post #1
It all about how long you boil it. I would dip them in for 30 sec or so. Just enough the form an outer skin and a soggy core
It all about how long you boil it. I would dip them in for 30 sec or so. Just enough the form an outer skin and a soggy core
In reply to Post #1
I do a lot of short session fishing, my findings are ....
The most effective short session approach revolves around pre baiting - its the biggest edge.
If you can't pre bait - then just use a good quality bait and create a decent coating on it. loads of advice on line of how and what. Or the sticky krill / manilla active.
The coating can be made with much more leak off than a boiled bait. And is v easy to do.
I do a lot of short session fishing, my findings are ....
The most effective short session approach revolves around pre baiting - its the biggest edge.
If you can't pre bait - then just use a good quality bait and create a decent coating on it. loads of advice on line of how and what. Or the sticky krill / manilla active.
The coating can be made with much more leak off than a boiled bait. And is v easy to do.
In reply to Post #1
If truely short sessions I wouldn't be thinking boilie mix I'd be thinking glugs/soaks and moving the bait, though texture may help. I used to do very short sessions, think 3 hours after work, often in winter, and that approach did me very well, I think in hindsight the boilie was imaterial it was the liquid signal that attracted the fish.
If truely short sessions I wouldn't be thinking boilie mix I'd be thinking glugs/soaks and moving the bait, though texture may help. I used to do very short sessions, think 3 hours after work, often in winter, and that approach did me very well, I think in hindsight the boilie was imaterial it was the liquid signal that attracted the fish.
I only fish short sessions and all boilie. My approach has been to use a no frills fm base mix with plenty of coarse seed to open the texture. I keep liquids at around 50ml/kg but replace half the liquid egg with water and boil for 2 minsh. What you tend to end up with is a very porous and pretty crumbly bait that's also cooked through and if allowed to dry for 12 hrs will soak up lake water like a sponge... If you can get away with fairly close range fishing then hydrating the baits until they can absorb any more water is even better (thanks T-carper for the heads up)...
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Thanks for your intervention.
I want to use a 50/50 mixture with 15-20% tiger nuts coarse meal and a liquid part of 100 ml of pre-digested and a little flavour. Does anyone a good mix of nuts or bordfoods for short fishing seasions? Tested. Thanks.
Thanks for your intervention.
I want to use a 50/50 mixture with 15-20% tiger nuts coarse meal and a liquid part of 100 ml of pre-digested and a little flavour. Does anyone a good mix of nuts or bordfoods for short fishing seasions? Tested. Thanks.
In reply to Post #1
I make my own and it's really simple. Just grind CLO, (British Aqua Feeds), in a blender to make it finer. Put your flavours in the eggs and mix. Add a little water to plasticise it to make rolling easier. It has a open texture which allows the flavours to come out. I've found that adding other binders eg semolina, albumen etc reduces it's effectiveness.
I make my own and it's really simple. Just grind CLO, (British Aqua Feeds), in a blender to make it finer. Put your flavours in the eggs and mix. Add a little water to plasticise it to make rolling easier. It has a open texture which allows the flavours to come out. I've found that adding other binders eg semolina, albumen etc reduces it's effectiveness.
In reply to Post #7
How much water/eggs per kilograms and how much tou boil ? Thanks.
How much water/eggs per kilograms and how much tou boil ? Thanks.
In reply to Post #8
I grind up 5 kg of CLO at a time and store it in a sealed bag. Then add bit-by-bit enough powder to 6 eggs to get a soft paste. A dessertspoon of water is plenty to plasticise it. If it's a bit sticky at first, wait several minutes for it to firm-up. Boiling depends on the size. I make 14mm and boil for 1.5 minutes.
I grind up 5 kg of CLO at a time and store it in a sealed bag. Then add bit-by-bit enough powder to 6 eggs to get a soft paste. A dessertspoon of water is plenty to plasticise it. If it's a bit sticky at first, wait several minutes for it to firm-up. Boiling depends on the size. I make 14mm and boil for 1.5 minutes.
If making your own from scratch and your recipe contains semo replace it will cous cous to give a very different finished texture.
In reply to Post #3
The most effective short session approach revolves around pre baiting - its the biggest edge.
Exactly that for me, make the bait do the work for you
As for maximum attraction, it's quite simple, boiled baits bound with egg in a few million galllons of water, you could look at them like a needle in a haystack, stock density etc
You can make your spot work instantly with a stick mix, groundbaits, boilie crumb bound with a good hydro or oil combo etc, you can then add pellets of various sizes to control and prolong the breakdown rates, broken boilies, wrap your baits in paste, squeeze micro pelllets into the outer skin, no egg baits, quick dissolvers, the list is endless when you think about it
The most effective short session approach revolves around pre baiting - its the biggest edge.
Exactly that for me, make the bait do the work for you
As for maximum attraction, it's quite simple, boiled baits bound with egg in a few million galllons of water, you could look at them like a needle in a haystack, stock density etc
You can make your spot work instantly with a stick mix, groundbaits, boilie crumb bound with a good hydro or oil combo etc, you can then add pellets of various sizes to control and prolong the breakdown rates, broken boilies, wrap your baits in paste, squeeze micro pelllets into the outer skin, no egg baits, quick dissolvers, the list is endless when you think about it
In reply to Post #1
short session fishing, i find that location is far more import key
short session fishing, i find that location is far more import key
In reply to Post #12
Always
No point sat on 3 coots all day or chasing shadows
Always
No point sat on 3 coots all day or chasing shadows
In reply to Post #13
In reply to Post #1
As Frenzy has said, on short session fishing location is more important.
You could use pretty much any shelf life boilie, many are attractor baits, as long as you put it in front of the fish.
Yes a good food value bait, prebaited will work for you, but I know this is not always possible on waters miles away from home.
Don't overbait with attractor bait boilies, 5 or 6 on a stringer or around the hookbait may be enough.
Get the fish feeding, be that over pellet, groundbait, (Vitalin is a good base), or particles, and fish your boilies on the hook.
You are trying to create pre-occupation that the fish just suck in or pick up your hookbait.
As Frenzy has said, on short session fishing location is more important.
You could use pretty much any shelf life boilie, many are attractor baits, as long as you put it in front of the fish.
Yes a good food value bait, prebaited will work for you, but I know this is not always possible on waters miles away from home.
Don't overbait with attractor bait boilies, 5 or 6 on a stringer or around the hookbait may be enough.
Get the fish feeding, be that over pellet, groundbait, (Vitalin is a good base), or particles, and fish your boilies on the hook.
You are trying to create pre-occupation that the fish just suck in or pick up your hookbait.