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ND T10s or T11 ? (47 posts / 4,604 views)
Bobh Bobh
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Post #1 1 Dec 2024 11:27
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Will these T10s and T11's both do exactly the same or do the T10s work in more situations ? Will the T10s work better with larger alarms ?
chanmenie
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Post #2 1 Dec 2024 21:43
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I have both and they both work well,
I use the larger T10 in windy rough conditions and the T11's when its calm.
They are very versatile and also very good at minimising false bleeps.
They can both be set almost weightless or with tension.

Alarm size doesn't really matter Ive used them with Fox RX+ and my smaller sonic alarms
Bobh Bobh
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Post #3 1 Dec 2024 23:00
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Thanks for the reply, I will probably go with the 10s.i was collecting nash slaphead bobbins but these look better 👍
Bobh Bobh
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Post #4 10 Dec 2024 10:57
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Well I got the 10s and found there is no spring on the ball bearings for clipping the line, only a grub screw for adjustment. So the ball bearings are fixed and pinch the line. Anyone else like this or have you got springs in the head ? Also the grub screws are very loose thread so I need some sticky thread seal to keep the screw from poping out.
Beyonce
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Post #5 10 Dec 2024 11:10
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My advice would be to return the ND equipment and take a look at the indicator selection from Defiant MPS
vossy1 vossy1
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Post #6 10 Dec 2024 11:11
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Just me thinking aloud but I'm looking at a picture of it and to me the indicator head should screw off. If so why not get some custom made clips with a spring/bearing in to replace them from the likes of Keith @ Defuant MPS.

Edit, We're not in league, Beyonce posted as I typed
whataclonker whataclonker
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Post #7 10 Dec 2024 12:15
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I have a pair of the 10's. There's only a grub screw for adjustment of the bearings.

Mine aren't that loose, they have a little resistance. Have you tried adjusting them? Possibly they are unscrewed too far out?

I don't think the head will screw off it looks bonded into position to me. I may be wrong - it's been known to happen occasionally!
Bobh Bobh
Posts: 81
Post #8 10 Dec 2024 13:24
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The head does unscrew off, I'll have a fiddle with it. Don't drop the ball bearings, I tried finding them with a magnet but their stainless. Had to do it by eye and it took me a while 🙄
whataclonker whataclonker
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Post #9 10 Dec 2024 13:42
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Well you learn something new every day.

I'm not going to try & take mine apart, I've had no issues with mine to be fair.

whataclonker whataclonker
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Post #10 10 Dec 2024 14:13
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Was you able to find out what the problem was?
vossy1 vossy1
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Post #11 10 Dec 2024 14:46
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Thinking aloud again, is there room for a tiny spring between the grub screw and bearing? It'd be an easy enough mod if so.
Karlos Karlos
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Post #12 11 Dec 2024 01:57
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Thinking aloud again, is there room for a tiny spring between the grub screw and bearing? It'd be an easy enough mod if so.
Piggybacking off your idea Vossy1: Even easier (maybe) a small piece of rubber. It will provide the required 'bounce' to avoid the line damage as you slip it between the balls (fnar fnar) ... and without having to find a spring of the correct diameter and try to make it very short (and still spring)
Bobh Bobh
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Post #13 11 Dec 2024 03:03
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In reply to Post #12
There is a spring, it's fitted first then a ball bearing in the head then the second ball held in lastly by the grub screw 👍 it's easy to miss the spring as it's fitted first.
0nslow 0nslow
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Post #14 11 Dec 2024 06:17
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In reply to Post #5
Another one here for Keith's Mag heads. Worth a look if you can't get yours how you want them
vossy1 vossy1
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Post #15 11 Dec 2024 07:24
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Like it

@ Bob, was the grub screw simply too tight then, or are you still experiencing line pinching with it slackened off?
Bobh Bobh
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Post #16 11 Dec 2024 08:09
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In reply to Post #15
It looks like the spring has been squashed so the ball bearing dissapears into one side of the head. Looks easy to over tighten so the clip does not work.
whataclonker whataclonker
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Post #17 11 Dec 2024 16:17
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So curiosity got the better of me & I dissembled one of my heads. I was hoping I could get the spring out for a look but I'm unable to remove mine easily.

Are you able to stretch/reform the spring?

Weirdly, they give you spare bearings & screws, no spring though.
phil090781
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Post #18 11 Dec 2024 17:33
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New Direction supplying Chinese crap at inflated prices? Well knock me down with a feather.
vossy1 vossy1
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Post #19 11 Dec 2024 20:16
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Your as bad as me, I'd of done the same thing if I had one

I wonder it the tag end of the spring is lodged in the thread where the grub screw locates, might be able to screw it out if so, small screwdriver jammed in the spring and turn. I can't see the spring being fixed it negate what it does. I suppose there could be a raised burr most of the spring is pushed over so most of it is bearing side, that'd keep the spring in place but I can't see them going to that level of detail, espesh in plastic.
Bobh Bobh
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Post #20 12 Dec 2024 07:00
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Im having trouble getting thr spring out, I will give an old bait needle a go next 👍
whataclonker whataclonker
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Post #21 12 Dec 2024 16:55
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I had a poke around with a tiny screwdriver & I'm unable to find a spring in mine. There is obviously something "springy" in there. I wonder if it could be a type of rubber pressed/pushed inside the hole instead of a spring? It wouldn't rust.. 🤔

Let us know how it goes, purely for curiosity (& moral support!).
Bobh Bobh
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Post #22 13 Dec 2024 00:38
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In reply to Post #21
Stick a small drill down the hole and you will feel a spring. I haven't had chance for a look yet.
whataclonker whataclonker
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Post #23 13 Dec 2024 16:18
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Righto.
Bobh Bobh
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Post #24 14 Dec 2024 07:51
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I havent been able to get the spring out, I recon if I do it might get knackerd.
vossy1 vossy1
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Post #25 14 Dec 2024 07:58
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If the spring isn't working properly what do you have to lose? If your using a drill bit, or have some, you should be able to gauge the size of the hole and/or spring, then you can find them on Ebay, or ask Keith @ Defiant MPS if he has some he'd sell to you
Bobh Bobh
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Post #26 14 Dec 2024 11:42
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This thing is brand new, Im cheesed off with it. Those MPS indicators look quality but there's not much in the way of reviews on-line. I would get something like the Warlock with the sliding weight.
ip100 ip100
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Post #27 14 Dec 2024 13:28
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Mps gear is top quality, their reputation is worth more than any online reviews. Hand made quality rather than mass produced rubbish that companies like Nd sell
phil090781
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Post #28 14 Dec 2024 15:15
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Buy with confidence. It's proper machined and made in the UK gear. Keith is a member on here too.
vossy1 vossy1
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Post #29 14 Dec 2024 16:06
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I'd be annoyed too, I'd be asking for a replacement as the idea is interesting.
Best of both worlds, as I said before, ask Keith if he would do a top section for you.
PART-TIMECARPER PART-TIMECARPER
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Post #30 15 Dec 2024 19:17
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I wanted the indicator to be a bit more visual so got Kudos to make some yellow heads with integrated clips , and now love them , such a versatile idea that covers all situations with the
Loaded spring body's
chanmenie
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Post #31 15 Dec 2024 19:58
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In reply to Post #30
Now that sounds a great idea
Was that for the T11's or T10

Bobh Bobh
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Post #32 15 Dec 2024 20:50
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I got the spring out and it turned out to be a small piece of black rubber, if it's tightened too much it will loose its spring so the bearing that side sinks in too far.
PART-TIMECARPER PART-TIMECARPER
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Post #33 16 Dec 2024 08:50
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T11 had to send one to them for them to measure and fit ,then sent it back along with the heads they made
Bobh Bobh
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Post #34 16 Dec 2024 10:09
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Hope the picture works. No I failed

20241216-085427

chanmenie
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Post #35 16 Dec 2024 18:50
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Have you got pictures ?
PART-TIMECARPER PART-TIMECARPER
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Post #36 16 Dec 2024 21:20
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Don't know how to put them up on here ?
Baitman Baitman
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Post #37 16 Dec 2024 21:46
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Use this site; https://imgbb.com/
"html medium linked"

Follow the steps as shown in post #1184;
https://www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/Messages.asp?TopicID=145162
vossy1 vossy1
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Post #38 16 Dec 2024 21:48
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And copy the code 'html full linked' and put it in your post 👍
Baitman Baitman
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Post #39 16 Dec 2024 22:22
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Pm for you
Bobh Bobh
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Post #40 17 Dec 2024 07:23
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I don't think I'll buy any more ND stuff, all I got from someone when I enquired about it was ( All our T10s are similar, maybe we should improve it ). No help in any way.
PART-TIMECARPER PART-TIMECARPER
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Post #41 17 Dec 2024 19:33
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https://ibb.co/CPjzgLb
Baitman Baitman
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Post #42 17 Dec 2024 21:26
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IMG-4481
Bobh Bobh
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Post #43 18 Dec 2024 05:16
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What kind of line clip have you got in that yellow head ?
PART-TIMECARPER PART-TIMECARPER
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Post #44 18 Dec 2024 07:11
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In reply to Post #43
Integrated sprung ball bearing similar to the original head
Bobh Bobh
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Post #45 18 Dec 2024 08:02
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It's not a dual line clip with a fixed type as well ?
PART-TIMECARPER PART-TIMECARPER
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Post #46 18 Dec 2024 13:41
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No
whataclonker whataclonker
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Post #47 19 Dec 2024 18:59
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Those heads look neat.

RC Tackle also do some snap on glow in the dark covers for the T10/11's.

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