Looking to get my lad a rod, he's fairly new to fishing so I'm not looking to get him an out and out carp rod. Places I will be taking him will places with a mixed bag, predominantly single figure carp and some lower doubles, but also tench, barbel etc
I'd like to get him used to fishing for a variety of species instead of forcing him down then3 rodnset up overnight sessions which can be daunting.
I was thinking of a twin tip rod so we can do some float fishing, some feeder work etc. I don't want to be spending a lot until his skills improve but also don't want something that will fall apart after a few goes.
Any ideas what I should be looking for up to around £50-60 for a rod that's not to heavy he can't use for smaller species but has enough backbone to use for carp into low doubles 10-12lb max.
I'd like to get him used to fishing for a variety of species instead of forcing him down then3 rodnset up overnight sessions which can be daunting.
I was thinking of a twin tip rod so we can do some float fishing, some feeder work etc. I don't want to be spending a lot until his skills improve but also don't want something that will fall apart after a few goes.
Any ideas what I should be looking for up to around £50-60 for a rod that's not to heavy he can't use for smaller species but has enough backbone to use for carp into low doubles 10-12lb max.
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Have a look on the tackle box website they do their own range called darent valley in wide range of rods
Have a look on the tackle box website they do their own range called darent valley in wide range of rods
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Korum 11ft 1.75 barbel rod would be ideal. Beautiful little rods.
Korum 11ft 1.75 barbel rod would be ideal. Beautiful little rods.
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I think something with a low test curve, an avon style rod would be spot on. As you said, a twin tip would be a good idea, but I bought a cheap Prologic one for my lad, it was OK but not brilliant. The quiver tip was pretty stiff, and the guides were weird also. Like I say, go for an avon rod.
I think something with a low test curve, an avon style rod would be spot on. As you said, a twin tip would be a good idea, but I bought a cheap Prologic one for my lad, it was OK but not brilliant. The quiver tip was pretty stiff, and the guides were weird also. Like I say, go for an avon rod.
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I did some looking around for a donar rod a while ago, didn't want to spend a fortune and came across the Shakespeare Onmi. It's a cheap rod but has great reviews. The specialist is est 1.5tc and a tackle dealer said he sells a lot to folk fishing nights on commercials, 10lb line straight through. (Maggot downers forum). As you mention cost at £25 it's hard to knock.
£50-100 bracket there's loads but if I were spending that much I'd be on the look out for a Fox Twin Tip 2nd hand. You could also consider a heavy feeder rod or pellet waggler rod, designed for hauling F1s on commercials but still sensitive enough for silvers, rod dependent.
Edit, apologies for being a bit vague re pellet waggles/feeder, I'm well aware of their capabilities but I use Drennan Acolyte which are out of the price range.
The Fox Vario multi feeder is a great rod, they come up on Ebay every now and then.
I did some looking around for a donar rod a while ago, didn't want to spend a fortune and came across the Shakespeare Onmi. It's a cheap rod but has great reviews. The specialist is est 1.5tc and a tackle dealer said he sells a lot to folk fishing nights on commercials, 10lb line straight through. (Maggot downers forum). As you mention cost at £25 it's hard to knock.
£50-100 bracket there's loads but if I were spending that much I'd be on the look out for a Fox Twin Tip 2nd hand. You could also consider a heavy feeder rod or pellet waggler rod, designed for hauling F1s on commercials but still sensitive enough for silvers, rod dependent.
Edit, apologies for being a bit vague re pellet waggles/feeder, I'm well aware of their capabilities but I use Drennan Acolyte which are out of the price range.
The Fox Vario multi feeder is a great rod, they come up on Ebay every now and then.
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The Daiwa Black Widow twin tip should be decent quality (I use the Daiwa Nzon twin tip and really like it). £69 on Angling Direct.
The Daiwa Black Widow twin tip should be decent quality (I use the Daiwa Nzon twin tip and really like it). £69 on Angling Direct.
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What about a John Wilson ,Avon /Quiver ...maybe the travel version..
Can use it float fishing ,quiver tipping all sorts ..Nice rods.
Either second hand ,or the AD versions ..
What about a John Wilson ,Avon /Quiver ...maybe the travel version..
Can use it float fishing ,quiver tipping all sorts ..Nice rods.
Either second hand ,or the AD versions ..
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Would def go Korum for versatility, value and build - really good rods for anyone starting out
eg Korum 'All Rounder' in 11 ft - perfect! They've released a new 3K version; the 11ft is 1.25lb tc and the 12' 1.5tc - both are £49.99 RRP
Korum 3K Allrounder
Would def go Korum for versatility, value and build - really good rods for anyone starting out
eg Korum 'All Rounder' in 11 ft - perfect! They've released a new 3K version; the 11ft is 1.25lb tc and the 12' 1.5tc - both are £49.99 RRP
Korum 3K Allrounder
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I'm not sure if people are collecting the JW Avons but they go for good money, or the ones I've watched have.
I'm not sure if people are collecting the JW Avons but they go for good money, or the ones I've watched have.
Korum all rounder 100%
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There's deffo something in this Vossy,I tried to match my Rovex a whole ago ,but didn't find a nice one....plenty of masterlines around though ..
Tbh...having read the bumph on the Korum all rounders I'd go for them ,they look proper job...!
There's deffo something in this Vossy,I tried to match my Rovex a whole ago ,but didn't find a nice one....plenty of masterlines around though ..
Tbh...having read the bumph on the Korum all rounders I'd go for them ,they look proper job...!
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Definitely look at the Korum range some really good versatile rods at good prices. A nice 1.75lb tc would work nicely for a range of species including modest sized carp
Definitely look at the Korum range some really good versatile rods at good prices. A nice 1.75lb tc would work nicely for a range of species including modest sized carp
I use a pair of FS Specialist Gold rods for a similar purpose - any Specialist%bar el rod of the 1.25lb-1.75lb t/c would be good I'd imagine, choice dependant on budget.
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. . .just 'retrieved' my 11' JW Barbel Travel rod from the loft . . .hasn't been used on hols since 2018 and although stored in a rodbag the eyes appear to have corroded (green verdigris). Started to clean the small single leg guides on one of the upper sections and a couple snapped off in my hands . . . .gutted!
. . .just 'retrieved' my 11' JW Barbel Travel rod from the loft . . .hasn't been used on hols since 2018 and although stored in a rodbag the eyes appear to have corroded (green verdigris). Started to clean the small single leg guides on one of the upper sections and a couple snapped off in my hands . . . .gutted!
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Perfect thanks lads, never had any korum gear before. Are they decent enough? Obviously not expecting them to be amazing but should last a while if taken care of?
Perfect thanks lads, never had any korum gear before. Are they decent enough? Obviously not expecting them to be amazing but should last a while if taken care of?
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Korum rods are sound.
I have a pair of 2lb barbel rods and a pair of the beefier 2.5lb barbel rods for the trent.
As I mentioned earlier, the 11ft 1.75 would be ideal for stillwater carp, feeder fishing for bream and tench, light to medium river work too.
It will throw a big loaded feeder up to 4oz with ease, and 5oz at a push.
The "all rounder" will be more through action, but the 1.75 is soft enough but it has some beef in the butt.
Korum rods are sound.
I have a pair of 2lb barbel rods and a pair of the beefier 2.5lb barbel rods for the trent.
As I mentioned earlier, the 11ft 1.75 would be ideal for stillwater carp, feeder fishing for bream and tench, light to medium river work too.
It will throw a big loaded feeder up to 4oz with ease, and 5oz at a push.
The "all rounder" will be more through action, but the 1.75 is soft enough but it has some beef in the butt.
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Just realised the korum aren't twin tip. Not necessarily a deal breaker, could get him using an alarm when ledgering
Does anyone know what the daiwa black widow rods are like? The blurb says full carbon but I'm guessing it's not 3k like the korum?
Just realised the korum aren't twin tip. Not necessarily a deal breaker, could get him using an alarm when ledgering
Does anyone know what the daiwa black widow rods are like? The blurb says full carbon but I'm guessing it's not 3k like the korum?
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It's not a twin tip, but also it's not a very thin quiver. It would be OK for legering for fish that give a good pull, carp, bream, tench, but not too soft so it would be no good for float fishing.
Have a look at one in your local shop and you'll be surprised how versatile it is.
It's not a twin tip, but also it's not a very thin quiver. It would be OK for legering for fish that give a good pull, carp, bream, tench, but not too soft so it would be no good for float fishing.
Have a look at one in your local shop and you'll be surprised how versatile it is.
No matter how good a 1.75lb barbell rod is, it's designed for lobbing feeders and will be horrible for float fishing.
If you don't have a decent local tackle shop I would give Gary a ring at the Tackle Box and tell him what you are after. Seen them with lots of Dad's and kids going through rods in the store.
If you don't have a decent local tackle shop I would give Gary a ring at the Tackle Box and tell him what you are after. Seen them with lots of Dad's and kids going through rods in the store.
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Got to agree, anything over 1.5lb for float fishing isn't going to work with a inexperienced angler. I had a1.25lb Torrix float made by M Tunley as a heavy waggler work rod and that's pushing it for silvers, though a 1lb Rudd was nice.
As said, I'd be looking for a feeder rod or specialist float anything bigger TC, wise while future proofing, might actually frustrate your child to the point of putting them off if they keep losing fish.
Got to agree, anything over 1.5lb for float fishing isn't going to work with a inexperienced angler. I had a1.25lb Torrix float made by M Tunley as a heavy waggler work rod and that's pushing it for silvers, though a 1lb Rudd was nice.
As said, I'd be looking for a feeder rod or specialist float anything bigger TC, wise while future proofing, might actually frustrate your child to the point of putting them off if they keep losing fish.
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In my experience Korum rods are always understated for the tc - I had some 12' 2lb and they could lob more weight than my Torrix 2.25s! Also have some big water 13' 2.75 for silly Trent conditions and they can lob 10oz! . . .the all rounders in 1.25 should be pretty versatile.
Alternatively you could go for some pellet wag rods - I've got a pair of 10' Garbolino Rocket Carp that have a fine tip but def enough backbone for low double figure carp. My kids used these when progressing circa 10yrs old - I still use them occasionally in the summer on commercials when big lake fishing has gone quiet (post spawning)
In my experience Korum rods are always understated for the tc - I had some 12' 2lb and they could lob more weight than my Torrix 2.25s! Also have some big water 13' 2.75 for silly Trent conditions and they can lob 10oz! . . .the all rounders in 1.25 should be pretty versatile.
Alternatively you could go for some pellet wag rods - I've got a pair of 10' Garbolino Rocket Carp that have a fine tip but def enough backbone for low double figure carp. My kids used these when progressing circa 10yrs old - I still use them occasionally in the summer on commercials when big lake fishing has gone quiet (post spawning)
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