Are back leads useful, I've never used them 
In reply to Post #1
Yes
Can also be a hindrance lol
Yes
Can also be a hindrance lol
In reply to Post #1
Vital in certain circumstances where you want to help pin the line down . A hindrance with weed and undulating bottoms though
Vital in certain circumstances where you want to help pin the line down . A hindrance with weed and undulating bottoms though
Like already mentioned below they can be a great edge in some circumstances, one of my syndicates I do catch a lot more when pinning my lines down out the way but other lakes I fish I would use them because of weed, gravel bars etc
In reply to Post #1
I use them a lot, the ones you drop off the rod tip, not the flying ones. But only when the bottom is clear. Useful for all sorts of reasons - pinning your line down, avoiding swans & geese, easier to play fish.
I always buy the ones with a figure of 8 plastic connector, these are by far the best. All others I have used are prone to dropping off when winding in/playing a fish.
I always buy bright coloured ones as well in case I drop them in the grass, they are easier to find. They're that far away from your end tackle, colour doesn't matter.
I use them a lot, the ones you drop off the rod tip, not the flying ones. But only when the bottom is clear. Useful for all sorts of reasons - pinning your line down, avoiding swans & geese, easier to play fish.
I always buy the ones with a figure of 8 plastic connector, these are by far the best. All others I have used are prone to dropping off when winding in/playing a fish.
I always buy bright coloured ones as well in case I drop them in the grass, they are easier to find. They're that far away from your end tackle, colour doesn't matter.
If casting, I will use flying back leads. If using my boat, I will clip on under my rod tips.
In reply to Post #1
Yup, I fish with them as a default now unless circumstances dictate otherwise - always know my rig is sat nicely on the bottom and when playing fish I don't have to worry about crossing over my lines.
Yup, I fish with them as a default now unless circumstances dictate otherwise - always know my rig is sat nicely on the bottom and when playing fish I don't have to worry about crossing over my lines.
In reply to Post #1
Had all my rods trashed by geese the other night and was too tired to re do them. If I'd had back leads on they wouldn't have been an issue.
Had all my rods trashed by geese the other night and was too tired to re do them. If I'd had back leads on they wouldn't have been an issue.
Only weed will stop me using backleads and I am obsessive about them.
Advantages
Makes landing fish easier
Can help pin line down, even with bumps and bars
You can change the line angle to the spot with them
Disadvantages
They can hinder if you need to strike - but I haven't found this an issue with modern day rigs
Indication needs refining..
Basically I wanted the heaviest but lightest backlead that can be sent a good few yards out. One that comes up fairly easily and slides toward a hooked fish.
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Advantages
Makes landing fish easier
Can help pin line down, even with bumps and bars
You can change the line angle to the spot with them
Disadvantages
They can hinder if you need to strike - but I haven't found this an issue with modern day rigs
Indication needs refining..
Basically I wanted the heaviest but lightest backlead that can be sent a good few yards out. One that comes up fairly easily and slides toward a hooked fish.
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In reply to Post #9
Why do you think it makes landing fish easier? I haven't noticed that yet.
Why do you think it makes landing fish easier? I haven't noticed that yet.
In reply to Post #9
Wow, that's a bit of a weird contraption. Does that offer any advantage over a "standard" back lead? Does it ever tangle when it slides down to the business end?
In reply to Post #10
Christian, think he's referring to lines being crossed when playing a fish.
Wow, that's a bit of a weird contraption. Does that offer any advantage over a "standard" back lead? Does it ever tangle when it slides down to the business end?
In reply to Post #10
Christian, think he's referring to lines being crossed when playing a fish.
In reply to Post #10
Probably because other lines are down and out of the way?
Probably because other lines are down and out of the way?
In reply to Post #1
The smallest Korda backleads work the best IMO - little Atomic pebble style ones can get caught up in large tip rings and sometimes fail to slide back down the line when playing fish making them a bit of a risk . . .
The smallest Korda backleads work the best IMO - little Atomic pebble style ones can get caught up in large tip rings and sometimes fail to slide back down the line when playing fish making them a bit of a risk . . .
In reply to Post #11
In my head yes in reality probably not.
The float helps counter balance the weight a bit, so on a take it come to surface quicker. It can't tangle due to the sponge and they slide really well. The sponge also gets pushed up against clip so they can't tangle on other lines as some of the clips can.
Lastly the float keeps the line a couple of inches from the bottom as I fish a fair few pits with sand stone and backleads has a knack of finding the cracks and dragging the line down with them. Massively over engineered but I like them!
In my head yes in reality probably not.
The float helps counter balance the weight a bit, so on a take it come to surface quicker. It can't tangle due to the sponge and they slide really well. The sponge also gets pushed up against clip so they can't tangle on other lines as some of the clips can.
Lastly the float keeps the line a couple of inches from the bottom as I fish a fair few pits with sand stone and backleads has a knack of finding the cracks and dragging the line down with them. Massively over engineered but I like them!
In reply to Post #11
Yes, looks like a few places for line to get caught! Sure they work though.
I've stopped using backleads pretty much since they caused me more issues than they solved. Lines can still cross - with the backleads themselves catching on the other lines when a fish is bolting around. Then it just descends into farce which sees all 3 rods needing redoing.
Yes, looks like a few places for line to get caught! Sure they work though.
I've stopped using backleads pretty much since they caused me more issues than they solved. Lines can still cross - with the backleads themselves catching on the other lines when a fish is bolting around. Then it just descends into farce which sees all 3 rods needing redoing.
I recently made some 3oz ones. Using a 3oz flat pear inline. Drilled and tapped an m4 thread into the centre and fitted a cygnet plastic line clip. Can be pinned to my bank sticks now and always releases on takes.
Paperclips and 2oz or 2.5oz swivel flat pear leads for me.
In reply to Post #11
cheers
cheers
In reply to Post #1
Used them a lot in the past, I used to do a lot of margin fishing, rod tips just at waters edge or behind, back lead just in the water. I think they're great but as pointed out they can also be a pain. If you use none captive if the fish kites the lead can cross other lines and if your unlucky actually clip on to them...yes it happens. I tended to use them with close in bolt rigs so I'd go as light as possible, the fish would be hooked anyway and I'd want to get the lead off the bottom as quickly as possible. With run rigs I'd go a lot heavier, it's quite possible for a fish to move a light back lead when using run rigs without getting a indication. That also goes for bolt rigs at distance if you don't use a heavy back lead, the fish can kite without you knowing as a lighter none captive back lead lead will move down the line or up in the water taking up any slack to a certain point, not moving the indicator.
Used them a lot in the past, I used to do a lot of margin fishing, rod tips just at waters edge or behind, back lead just in the water. I think they're great but as pointed out they can also be a pain. If you use none captive if the fish kites the lead can cross other lines and if your unlucky actually clip on to them...yes it happens. I tended to use them with close in bolt rigs so I'd go as light as possible, the fish would be hooked anyway and I'd want to get the lead off the bottom as quickly as possible. With run rigs I'd go a lot heavier, it's quite possible for a fish to move a light back lead when using run rigs without getting a indication. That also goes for bolt rigs at distance if you don't use a heavy back lead, the fish can kite without you knowing as a lighter none captive back lead lead will move down the line or up in the water taking up any slack to a certain point, not moving the indicator.
In reply to Post #13
I also use the Korda ones but find the really light ones don't end up pinning the line to the bottom unless you're using semi-slack lines. Prefer to use the 1.5oz ones as they then fix the line down while still allowing tension through to the lead.
I also use the Korda ones but find the really light ones don't end up pinning the line to the bottom unless you're using semi-slack lines. Prefer to use the 1.5oz ones as they then fix the line down while still allowing tension through to the lead.
In reply to Post #20
Korda ones are great. If I need big back leads for the river though Atomic do figure of 8 clips that I use
Korda ones are great. If I need big back leads for the river though Atomic do figure of 8 clips that I use
If using them I to really like the Korda lightest ones, I always got told the best way to use a back lead is to use the lightest one you can get away with or it will hinder bite indication. So I use the Korda 0.25oz ones with jag safeliner bobbins I let the line go slag so I no they are on the bottom then slowly tighten up being careful not to move it
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