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Storing bait (36 posts / 5,166 views)
nickfisherman
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Post #1 23 Mar 2023 12:13
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I have to store my (shelf-life) bait indoors, does anyone have a good idea on how to stop the smell from getting about?

Have 20kg to store, and notice the smell seeping from the bags even though they are sealed. I have tried putting the sealed bags into vacuum bags, and for a bit I thought that had fixed it, but after a few days the smell has seeped through them as well and I can smell it again. No idea how scent can get through two bags that are fully sealed, but it has, pretty impressive really!

Thankfully it's DNA Bug which basically just smells of malty chocolate, so not unpleasant, but would still rather stop it.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #2 23 Mar 2023 12:40
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In reply to Post #1
You could try some air tight sealed plastic containers,I got some from B&M.Just make sure they are the good ones with a really good seal on them
BillsBankLife BillsBankLife
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Post #3 23 Mar 2023 12:47
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In reply to Post #1
In the dna bag inside an airtight bucket mate should do the trick
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #4 23 Mar 2023 15:49
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In reply to Post #1
One of my best purchases was a professional quality Vacuum Sealer !
initially for prolonging the life of bait and by god does it do that exceptionally well !! It will solve your problem and extend the life of any bait

but also its amazing for food I make up all sorts stews ,currys ,fry ups , ready cooked steaks etc the list is endless and you just need a pan of boiling water chuck the vacuumed bags of food in to heat up without mess
nickfisherman
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Post #5 23 Mar 2023 18:21
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Cheers guys. Could you maybe send a link for the kind of sealed container/bucket you mean?

Vacuum sealer won't work as I've already tried vacuum compression packs and the smell comes through still.
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #6 23 Mar 2023 19:05
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In reply to Post #5
not sure what you mean by vacuum compression packs
but TRUST me a proper Vacuum sealer 100% does work I have been using them for years and years I am on my second one I wore out the first one they work by properly removing all the air creating a vacuum
thats why things cant go rotten and the bags used are heavy duty designed to be boiled in boiling water ! not some soppy little thin shyte
and I have stored some very very smelly baits and no smell what so ever
nickfisherman
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Post #7 23 Mar 2023 20:11
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In reply to Post #6
It's their name - the things designed to store clothes. Sturdy clear flat bags with a seal, connect it to a vacuum and it sucks all the air out compressing it down.
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #8 23 Mar 2023 22:55
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In reply to Post #1
To be honest, even bait in the freezer in the bag, I can smell through the bag.

Shelf life baits, double bagged, I can smell through the plastic. I have to keep them in a cupboard or in a bucket when I top up what I have used the previous trip.


It could be worse, my Monster Crab does stink, hence why they are kept in a sealed bucket
Teddybare
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Post #9 23 Mar 2023 23:20
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In reply to Post #1
Stick it in the loft, the temprature and darkness wont do it any harm either.
nexus6
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Post #10 24 Mar 2023 04:31
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In reply to Post #4
I know you love a good buy - any recommendations on Vac sealers and supply of bags?
Ddw
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Post #11 24 Mar 2023 09:52
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As far as I know the only non permeable bags are nylon evidence bags used for petrol and other explosive liquids and their smell. . They are usually found in forensic supplies. They are expensive but reusable.
Fivenil Fivenil
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Post #12 24 Mar 2023 14:17
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Few ideas here. I like number 7.

Link
Scotweiler Scotweiler
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Post #13 24 Mar 2023 19:33
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In reply to Post #7


So completely different to what Gerry was offering as a solution.
Cam Cam
MODERATORMOD
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Post #14 24 Mar 2023 19:48
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In reply to Post #7
Two different things mate

For example.

What you are talking about:- Vacuum Storage Bag

What Gerry is talking about:- Vacuum Food Sealer Roll You'd need one of these aswell:- Vacuum Sealer

Storage bags would be no good IMO
Darkieallard
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Post #15 25 Mar 2023 04:33
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In reply to Post #14
That's what i thought he was talking about, i bet your hoover smelt too.

The good thing about the proper vacuum bags is it can change the shapes of your bait if soft enough (I was using shelf life)
nickfisherman
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Post #16 25 Mar 2023 11:07
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In reply to Post #14
Different sure but the material of the bag and the roll is basically the same right, it's just a different mode of sealing the plastic sheeting - heat sealing v a mechanical valve - the issue I'm having is that the scent is coming through the material not the seal.

Sounds as if I need something with solid walls.

Appreciate all the input, thanks!
inzenity inzenity
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Post #17 25 Mar 2023 11:21
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And if all else fails maybe some vinegar or coffee in the vicinity to neutralize the smell. Worked for me and too many bottles of flavor in a closet.
Mistabite
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Post #18 25 Mar 2023 12:13
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Mylar is much better for a smell barrier than most plastics

Ebay mylar bags
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #19 25 Mar 2023 15:10
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In reply to Post #16
but the material of the bag and the roll is basically the same right

NO NO NO !!! nothing remotely like it !!!
its clear your not grasping what people are advising you you seem to have it in your head the only difference is the suction the reality is nothing could be further from the truth

the rolls or pre made bags that are used in a Vacuum Sealer is like plastic bags on steroids sooo much thicker
as I told you they can be used in BOILING WATER to cook or reheat food thats been sealed try that in the silly so called sealers bags your talking about
in fact if you were stupid enough to try you bags in the machine it would probably just melt them rather than a seal
not being rude but they are not worth a toss and not worth wasting money on IMO

if anyone reading this is thinking of buying A VACUUM SEALER ?
Top tips
1..buy one that does wet and dry
2. the higher the power (wattage ) the better it will perform
3..a Built-in Cutter & Roll Bag Storage is so handy (I would not buy one without out it personally)
Hudson Hudson
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Post #20 26 Mar 2023 07:02
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In reply to Post #19
Lol you do have a way with words.........
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #21 26 Mar 2023 11:29
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In reply to Post #20
thank you its a gift ! you cant learn it
Cam Cam
MODERATORMOD
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Post #22 26 Mar 2023 13:11
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In reply to Post #16
As Gerry has stated (in his own unique way ) they are different materials.
I use the clothes ones (mechanical valve and pump) for clothes and the food ones (heat sealing) for my boilies.
I wouldn't use the mechanical valved bags for food and vice versa.

oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #23 27 Mar 2023 00:08
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if anyone already has a Vacuum sealer and wants some ready made SMALL bags for bait or anything I have tried over many years lots of different makes
and found these are blooming marvellous !! if the size is what you would use ? 20x30cm/120pcs

LINKY POO
Hudson Hudson
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Post #24 28 Mar 2023 06:37
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In reply to Post #23
What vacuum sealer would you recommend mate?
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #25 28 Mar 2023 23:28
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In reply to Post #24
Probably this one built in roll cutter does wet and dry and storage jars etc good specs cheap too
(( there is a newer version cheaper for a reason they took off the roll cutter

LINKY POO
Hudson Hudson
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Post #26 29 Mar 2023 12:39
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In reply to Post #25
Ta mate, ordered
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #27 29 Mar 2023 12:46
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In reply to Post #26
if I were you I would 100% get some of those bags in post 23 they are the nuts
Hudson Hudson
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Post #28 29 Mar 2023 15:16
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In reply to Post #27
What do you like about them? I was just going to buy a couple of different size rolls as assumed they was all the same kinda thing
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #29 29 Mar 2023 20:02
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In reply to Post #28
top quality and really handy size great value for money
and instead of having to make a cut then 2 seals on every bag like you have to do with a roll its just one seal and done if you got 10kg of bait to do the time saving is massive

and its good to have a quick ready made bag as an alternative to the rolls I use both all the time depending on if its grub for freezing then reheating on the bank or whatever
Cam Cam
MODERATORMOD
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Post #30 30 Mar 2023 11:18
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In reply to Post #29
How much Boilie you getting in those bags Gerry?

Will be size dependant I know but 15mm's?
nickfisherman
Posts: 342
Post #31 30 Mar 2023 14:28
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In reply to Post #29
Does this material actually stop the smell coming through when storing bait at room temperature for extended periods of time?

Deliberately sought out sturdy vacuum compression bags that are pretty thick-walled, have done cooking classes with sous-vide using this type of vacuum sealer and the ones I have already are thicker material than that sheeting/bags. Must be 1mm thick or so, and the smell did still come through after a few days at room temperature. Others seem to say that the smell will come through basically anything other than v heavy duty forensic plastics or a solid walled sealed box/bucket.
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #32 30 Mar 2023 17:45
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In reply to Post #30
I like to split a 5kg bag into 8-10 bags
I used to do it in 5 bigger bags but found its much much easier to stack in a freezer or in a box with the smaller bags lovely flattish square packs

@nickfisherman
Mate I can only tell you I live in a 1 bedroom bungalow with very little space as I got **** loads of stuff I have a cupboard stacked just with bait that I have vacuumed sealed and I dont get any smell from it ?
my machine is a very high quality semi professional one thats sadly not made any more and most things it extends the shelf life by at least 7 times it does distort and squash them a bit on the highest setting but I like that
nickfisherman
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Post #33 30 Mar 2023 18:57
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In reply to Post #32
Cool, cheers . Similar boat - small flat, everything has to be stored indoors in limited space.
Cam Cam
MODERATORMOD
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Post #34 31 Mar 2023 09:46
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In reply to Post #32
I like to split a 5kg bag into 8-10 bags
I used to do it in 5 bigger bags but found its much much easier to stack in a freezer or in a box with the smaller bags lovely flattish square packs


Thanks Gerry, will give these a go next time I need to do some
Fivenil Fivenil
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Post #35 20 Apr 2023 11:26
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In reply to Post #25
Got mine last week. Very good indeed and have used for boilies and food storage. I ordered 4 extra rolls as recommended but found that they are quite large so you have to peel off a few layers first so that you can shut the device when a new roll is in place. The rolls are quite wide as well so you have to squish everything down into as much as possible.

Just ordered a box of the bags today as they do seem easier to manage than the rolls.
zebedee zebedee
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Post #36 26 Apr 2023 20:09
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In reply to Post #6
I use mine all time as I marinade food a lot. God send. Even the cheapo from Amazon will do the job
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