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And we thought Otters were a pest! (21 posts / 3,915 views)
Bugner Bugner
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Post #1 10 Jan 2023 22:37
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Going to have to start installing Seal fencing!

https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2023-01-09/hungry-seal-obliterates-carp-and-bream-stocks-in-fishing-lake
nickfisherman
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Post #2 10 Jan 2023 22:43
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In reply to Post #1
I saw, mad. How on earth does a seal get into an inland lake?
littleian littleian
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Post #3 10 Jan 2023 22:53
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In reply to Post #2
It came up the little tidal brook beside the lake
essesxandy essesxandy
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Post #4 11 Jan 2023 06:45
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I wouldn't have got in if it were otter fenced. All lakes need it unfortunately.
Goose Goose
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Post #5 11 Jan 2023 09:59
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There was one living on bank of the river Arun at amberley for a few years.
Richpp1989 Richpp1989
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Post #6 11 Jan 2023 10:23
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I get it's expensive but still can't understand why all lakes ain't otter fenced, surely the cost of the fence would be out weighed by replacing the whole stock!
One lake near me had a otter on it last year, when questioned on Facebook some of the regulars (new ones) and even the owner said due to the weed it's impossible for the otter to catch the carp!
So they said they won't otter fence it, they are nuts there is mid 30s swimming round in there but the owner said there is no need for a otter fence
RKB
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Post #7 11 Jan 2023 11:44
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In reply to Post #4
Not been over for a while, but it's basically a lake in a public park, right? Even if it was fenced....would you trust the general public to do the right thing?!
littleian littleian
Posts: 1,505
Post #8 11 Jan 2023 14:00
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In reply to Post #7
It is a park lake with numerous issues such as multiple access points, a stream running into it and along one bank into another stream which runs along another bank and leads to the river crouch. It could be done but as already stated the public would probably be the problem. I really feel for the chap Nick who runs it as he has really turned the place around with some half decent fish not to mention all the kids tuition days he runs throughout the summer holidays where he gets people such as Alan Blair etc down all free of charge for the kids with everything supplied and given to them.
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #9 11 Jan 2023 17:15
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Gawd!

The numbers on ITV and BBC News stories about it on Facebook having a go at anglers.
Townie nature lovers who think they know about nature, not thinking or ignoring the fact that it is not in its natural environment with its social colony.
shane24 shane24
Posts: 904
Post #10 11 Jan 2023 19:21
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In reply to Post #4
Impossible on most of the lakes I fish.
mushageez
Posts: 131
Post #11 16 Jan 2023 21:30
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In reply to Post #1
There was one in the river itchen last month, not sure how it got in, maybe the flooding aided it, or it crossed a road from the tidal bit to the fresh bit.
Canalcarper71 Canalcarper71
Posts: 1,389
Post #12 17 Jan 2023 07:38
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In reply to Post #11
Oh no I used to fish that regularly from 2007 to 2013 had a few carp from there and a 22lb pike on a boilie I did hear there was otters there as well so that's not good news,biggest carp I believe was a 26lber which was in carp talk a few years ago an old fish,some knob head put it in mansbridge rezzie and I caught it at 27lb then it got caught again and then got put back in the river.
Justin_Time Justin_Time
Posts: 370
Post #13 17 Jan 2023 09:55
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In reply to Post #1
Non of the native mammals should be regarded as pests. Its a derisory term that says more about the exploitation or mismanagement of environments by humans.
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #14 19 Jan 2023 09:55
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In reply to Post #13
does that include the mis management of breeding of otters that weren't our native otter by Phillip Ware?
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #15 19 Jan 2023 12:01
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In reply to Post #11
Seals used to, or even still do, get up the River Yare to the Wensum Norwich city stretches in Norfolk. They have been up as far as New Mills Yard, right the way through the city and out the other side.

Otters have been seen in daylight all the way through the city.
mushageez
Posts: 131
Post #16 19 Jan 2023 12:22
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In reply to Post #12
Indeed alot of fish get moved around that area, quite a few from the gpo lake have ended up in the river or other ponds around the area.

I actually saw the seal it didnt head to far up stream, the birdlife certainly wasnt happy about its appearance.

Seen the cormorants take a lot of nice roach these past couple of months. sad to see.
quietoldcarper
Posts: 32
Post #17 30 Jan 2023 19:49
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In reply to Post #13
Spot on mate. It's a fish eating mammal and shock horror it will eat fish! Angling needs to be set in the context of the natural world that's part of what we love isn't it?
mark1009
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Post #18 30 Jan 2023 20:13
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I just read on the Internet they tranqualised it to re home it but it died under the anaesthetic. Bloody shame it couldn't be re- homed successfully.
littleian littleian
Posts: 1,505
Post #19 31 Jan 2023 17:58
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In reply to Post #18
The truth of the whole sorry episode was they missed it first shot, hit it second shot then it obviously bolted undewater never to surface again. The group had a diver on hand to rescue it but he couldn't find it unfortunately
Leeroyjenkins Leeroyjenkins
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Post #21 1 Feb 2023 13:14
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Reading some anglers comments under news stories about this has been an utterly embarrassment.
Darkieallard
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Post #22 2 Feb 2023 21:24
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In reply to Post #15
Still a couple on the Yare and Thurne, absolutely desimating the pike stocks
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