I have a cyprinus Typhoon MH Bivvy which now has hundreds of tiny holes appearing all over the bivvy fabric in the DPM version after just over a year and it is starring to let water in. I have noticed the seams starting to have gaps appear as well.
I have spoken to Cyprinus whose response was to initially ghost me for a week and then block me from their messenger, social media page and website - Talk about customer service!!!
I cant really afford a new bivvy and do otherwise like the bivvy so was thinking, could I add a coating of something like Fabsil gold? To block the holes up? Or would this mess with the breathability of the fabric? It's a 20hh material.
I must admit I am surprised by Cyprinus as I thought their customer service was gd and I previously owned a Typhoon standard without issue. It appears a major flaw with the DPM version fabric. Do not buy it!! Sorry cyprinus, but if you're not going to help me, I will spread the news. It would make sense as to why they are currently selling at half price on their site.
I have spoken to Cyprinus whose response was to initially ghost me for a week and then block me from their messenger, social media page and website - Talk about customer service!!!
I cant really afford a new bivvy and do otherwise like the bivvy so was thinking, could I add a coating of something like Fabsil gold? To block the holes up? Or would this mess with the breathability of the fabric? It's a 20hh material.
I must admit I am surprised by Cyprinus as I thought their customer service was gd and I previously owned a Typhoon standard without issue. It appears a major flaw with the DPM version fabric. Do not buy it!! Sorry cyprinus, but if you're not going to help me, I will spread the news. It would make sense as to why they are currently selling at half price on their site.
In reply to Post #1
There is a care and maintenance section on the website..
Hearing they have problems,if you click on some of the pages they don't come up any longer, there is a thread on third page in ,on tackle section
Might be worth a read..
There is a care and maintenance section on the website..
Hearing they have problems,if you click on some of the pages they don't come up any longer, there is a thread on third page in ,on tackle section
Might be worth a read..
In reply to Post #1
Is a skull cap available?
Is a skull cap available?
In reply to Post #1
Fabsil is good stuff and I keep my brolly and bivvy in good condition by applying some whenever they start to let water cling to the outer fabric rather that actually repel it.
However good it is, it isn't going to rectify holes and splits in the outer fabric.
Fabsil is good stuff and I keep my brolly and bivvy in good condition by applying some whenever they start to let water cling to the outer fabric rather that actually repel it.
However good it is, it isn't going to rectify holes and splits in the outer fabric.
In reply to Post #4
Ok, good feedback thanks.
Ok, good feedback thanks.
In reply to Post #2
Have read the care section on their site, so can use the trakker re-seal fabsil type stuff.
I also have the skull cap but the issue is below that.
They blocked me on messenger and their Facebook page at the same time all of their website which is linked has stopped being available, thsts more than a coincidence for me.
I have also sent them an email, since that is now the only method of communication I have left.
Would love to post the pics on here to show you, it's actually a little unbelievable.
KR.
Matt.
Have read the care section on their site, so can use the trakker re-seal fabsil type stuff.
I also have the skull cap but the issue is below that.
They blocked me on messenger and their Facebook page at the same time all of their website which is linked has stopped being available, thsts more than a coincidence for me.
I have also sent them an email, since that is now the only method of communication I have left.
Would love to post the pics on here to show you, it's actually a little unbelievable.
KR.
Matt.
Clearly there is something seriously amiss with this company?
recently on another thread someone has purchased from them and received nothing, the website is impossible to navigate or view any products, other media sources have been disabled or shut down.
in addition there seem to be a few folks experiencing quality issues and getting no help or customer service whatsoever.
recently on another thread someone has purchased from them and received nothing, the website is impossible to navigate or view any products, other media sources have been disabled or shut down.
in addition there seem to be a few folks experiencing quality issues and getting no help or customer service whatsoever.
In reply to Post #1
I was going to buy a second hand but 'as new' cyprinus bivvy from a guy.
We set up and the fabric had different coloured panels on the inside of the dpm outer.
Some of the panels were dark but the light ones were very thin and almost semi transparent. So to say they were 20,000 hh must only be down to the waterproof coating on the poor material.
In your case I wouldn't worry about whether any new coating will affect the breathability as I doubt the hydrostatic rating means anything worthwhile.
I was going to buy a second hand but 'as new' cyprinus bivvy from a guy.
We set up and the fabric had different coloured panels on the inside of the dpm outer.
Some of the panels were dark but the light ones were very thin and almost semi transparent. So to say they were 20,000 hh must only be down to the waterproof coating on the poor material.
In your case I wouldn't worry about whether any new coating will affect the breathability as I doubt the hydrostatic rating means anything worthwhile.
In reply to Post #7
Even Nibble has gone AWOL..
Even Nibble has gone AWOL..
In reply to Post #9
"nibble" sorry lost me?
"nibble" sorry lost me?
In reply to Post #3
Is a skull cap available?
thats a good shout Paul I agree probably be best solution just leave it on
Is a skull cap available?
thats a good shout Paul I agree probably be best solution just leave it on
In reply to Post #10
The sites friendly advice bot.
The sites friendly advice bot.
In reply to Post #1
How did you pay, if by card I would get in contact, the goods are obviously not fit for purpose. This is why I pay for anything I buy that's over £100 with a credit card.
How did you pay, if by card I would get in contact, the goods are obviously not fit for purpose. This is why I pay for anything I buy that's over £100 with a credit card.
In reply to Post #13
Credit card and PayPal, I believe, but it's over 12 months old now, so I'm not sure if I have a leg to stand on?
Credit card and PayPal, I believe, but it's over 12 months old now, so I'm not sure if I have a leg to stand on?
In reply to Post #6
Email the picture to karl@carpforum.co.uk if you like, I'll get it uploaded / hosted to share
Email the picture to karl@carpforum.co.uk if you like, I'll get it uploaded / hosted to share
In reply to Post #14
I'm not sure the 12 month thing stands, it should be expected to last a reasonable amount of time regardless of the amount of warranty, have a read of consumer goods or even give citizens advice a ring, def worth pursuing.
I'm not sure the 12 month thing stands, it should be expected to last a reasonable amount of time regardless of the amount of warranty, have a read of consumer goods or even give citizens advice a ring, def worth pursuing.
Here's the photos you sent me Matt
In reply to Post #16
As an independent source a judge (if it went this far) could look at something like this to define a “reasonable length of time”
https://tentcampingtrips.com/are-tents-durable/
That said
It's a bummer it hasn't lasted to long and anything is worth a go if you can get something back.
And there is also the other side of the consumer goods act
There is also a sliding scale you could use
If you would expect something to reasonably last 5 years
Less than 1 year would be 100%
2 years 80% and so on
The onus of proof will also fall on you to prove that it's not fit for purpose
And you would have to give them the chance to repair or replace
The act works 2 ways to protect both parties
As an independent source a judge (if it went this far) could look at something like this to define a “reasonable length of time”
https://tentcampingtrips.com/are-tents-durable/
That said
It's a bummer it hasn't lasted to long and anything is worth a go if you can get something back.
And there is also the other side of the consumer goods act
There is also a sliding scale you could use
If you would expect something to reasonably last 5 years
Less than 1 year would be 100%
2 years 80% and so on
The onus of proof will also fall on you to prove that it's not fit for purpose
And you would have to give them the chance to repair or replace
The act works 2 ways to protect both parties
In reply to Post #18
Cyprinus see to have gone completely bust now so I don't think it will make a blind bit of difference
Cyprinus see to have gone completely bust now so I don't think it will make a blind bit of difference
In reply to Post #19
you still have the credit card insurance to protect you.
you still have the credit card insurance to protect you.
In reply to Post #17
Thankyou Karlos, really appreciated mate. I would recommend members not to buy any DPM ripstop Cyprinus bevvies second hand. I believe they have now gone bust. I am going to spray the crsp out of these holes with fabsil see if it helps...
Thankyou Karlos, really appreciated mate. I would recommend members not to buy any DPM ripstop Cyprinus bevvies second hand. I believe they have now gone bust. I am going to spray the crsp out of these holes with fabsil see if it helps...
In reply to Post #21
Has it ever been packed away wet,it looks like it's the internal coating that has gone
Has it ever been packed away wet,it looks like it's the internal coating that has gone
In reply to Post #22
I was going to say the same, the coating on the material has gone.
I was going to say the same, the coating on the material has gone.
In reply to Post #22
yes I thought the same looking at the picture`s packing it away wet would do that
not saying he has done that but it would explain it if he has ?
yes I thought the same looking at the picture`s packing it away wet would do that
not saying he has done that but it would explain it if he has ?
In reply to Post #24
It looks like the inner coating has not enough elasticity to allow for the stretch of the material and as such has started to break apart, It seems the dpm versions suffers from this more often?
plenty of comments from buyers of earlier bivvies don't seem to have encountered problems of later models that were pre dpm.
imo, looking at the supplied pictures it doesn't strike me as being high quality, looks quite the opposite in fact.
good luck trying to seal that.
It looks like the inner coating has not enough elasticity to allow for the stretch of the material and as such has started to break apart, It seems the dpm versions suffers from this more often?
plenty of comments from buyers of earlier bivvies don't seem to have encountered problems of later models that were pre dpm.
imo, looking at the supplied pictures it doesn't strike me as being high quality, looks quite the opposite in fact.
good luck trying to seal that.
In reply to Post #17
Looks like internal material delamination..sadly there is no way you'll be able to seal that to a standard that will keep you dry for any length of time..
I also have heard of dpm material breaking down faster than normal..
Has the shelter been stored ,and dried out correctly ...I don't know..so many questions ,and it's a pain isn't it..
Looks like internal material delamination..sadly there is no way you'll be able to seal that to a standard that will keep you dry for any length of time..
I also have heard of dpm material breaking down faster than normal..
Has the shelter been stored ,and dried out correctly ...I don't know..so many questions ,and it's a pain isn't it..
Them internal vapour shields can cause this,they don't stop condensation but just stop it dripping on you.When you pack the bivvy away the condensation is trapped between the bivvy and the shield causing these issues
In reply to Post #27
exactly right !
I posted about this issue before after seeing posts and pictures of Mould caused by people not realising they were packing away a bivvy with a vapour shield hiding the wet bivvy
only a Skull cap stops it because then the wet is is on the inside of the skull cap thats outside the bivvy and you can easily see it and dry it
exactly right !
I posted about this issue before after seeing posts and pictures of Mould caused by people not realising they were packing away a bivvy with a vapour shield hiding the wet bivvy
only a Skull cap stops it because then the wet is is on the inside of the skull cap thats outside the bivvy and you can easily see it and dry it
In reply to Post #17
I've put brollys away for few weeks at a time wet through the winter and never had anything like that happen. Wouldn't of thought it would cause that unless your putting it away wet for long lengths of time
I've put brollys away for few weeks at a time wet through the winter and never had anything like that happen. Wouldn't of thought it would cause that unless your putting it away wet for long lengths of time
In reply to Post #29
If the vapour shield is trapping moisture it will definitely cause this after a few times of use.,It is surprising how much moisture they can be hiding
If the vapour shield is trapping moisture it will definitely cause this after a few times of use.,It is surprising how much moisture they can be hiding
In reply to Post #30
I had a standard Typhoon in DPM, just not ripstop for 2 years. I didn't do anything different with it, and this didn't happen with it.
I had a standard Typhoon in DPM, just not ripstop for 2 years. I didn't do anything different with it, and this didn't happen with it.
In reply to Post #17
For a minute I thought that was my bivvy lol, I have put it down to putting it away wet but probably just poor quality really. I've got the skull wrap on mine so not really a problem. Thankfully I didn't pay too much for it amd will probs get only a couple of seasons out of it.
For a minute I thought that was my bivvy lol, I have put it down to putting it away wet but probably just poor quality really. I've got the skull wrap on mine so not really a problem. Thankfully I didn't pay too much for it amd will probs get only a couple of seasons out of it.
In reply to Post #31
Did the standard typhoon have the vapour shield fitted
Did the standard typhoon have the vapour shield fitted
In reply to Post #33
Actually no I took the vapour shield out of my other bivvy because my head touched it as it was too low.. I hadn't thought of that !
Actually no I took the vapour shield out of my other bivvy because my head touched it as it was too low.. I hadn't thought of that !
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Hi
Plasti Dip 11217 Removable Spray Film, Camo Green
Search amazon for the above. You'll need probably 4 cans to redo the coating on the inside of the bivvy. Fabsil on the outside is a waste of time.
Spray thin layers, let it dry and then additional coats.
This will work and reseal the bivvy but you must be patient with drying after spraying it. Cans need to be warm ish (not cold) and shake vigorously for 2 mins before spraying.
You can get different colours cheaper but then you'll need to Spray all of it or just ignore the look.
I had a dpm one, had the same issue, I repeatedly asked nicely until they gave me this solution and tbh it did work
I own a Green mh typhoon now and tbh they are brilliant bivvies but just avoid the dpm or have some cans handy. You must dry it before putting additional coats on or packing it away so now maybe isn't a great time do it!
Good luck. 👍
Hi
Plasti Dip 11217 Removable Spray Film, Camo Green
Search amazon for the above. You'll need probably 4 cans to redo the coating on the inside of the bivvy. Fabsil on the outside is a waste of time.
Spray thin layers, let it dry and then additional coats.
This will work and reseal the bivvy but you must be patient with drying after spraying it. Cans need to be warm ish (not cold) and shake vigorously for 2 mins before spraying.
You can get different colours cheaper but then you'll need to Spray all of it or just ignore the look.
I had a dpm one, had the same issue, I repeatedly asked nicely until they gave me this solution and tbh it did work
I own a Green mh typhoon now and tbh they are brilliant bivvies but just avoid the dpm or have some cans handy. You must dry it before putting additional coats on or packing it away so now maybe isn't a great time do it!
Good luck. 👍
Sorry please see below
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Many thanks
Nina
Cyprinus Carp Technology
Cyprinus Sales Team
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Plasti-Dip-11217-Removable-Spray-Green/dp/B007MPNB1Q/ref=sr_1_12?crid=2E29HQEN0V99H&keywords=PLASTIDIP+PLASTI+DIP&qid=1650612001&sprefix=plastidip+plasti+dip%2Caps%2C129&sr=8-12
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Many thanks
Nina
Cyprinus Carp Technology
Cyprinus Sales Team
In reply to Post #37
NOW THATS !!!
a really useful bit of information and wished I never threw my delaminated Aqualite away
your brilliant LINKY POO 
NOW THATS !!!
a really useful bit of information and wished I never threw my delaminated Aqualite away
your brilliant LINKY POO
In reply to Post #36
That's really great info , thankyou very much Andy. I think I will do that as it is otherwise a great bivvy.
That's really great info , thankyou very much Andy. I think I will do that as it is otherwise a great bivvy.
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